ok bros need help creating a cycle ...

[GymIntensity]

I'm needing some help here bros. first of all, i will give out my stats and a brief summary of my diet
216lbs , 5'10 , 16% BF. I plan to drop down to about 13% BF before I start my cycle which will put me at about 207lbs. My diet is usually around 2300-2500 cals. trying to get a meal in every 3 hours. I'm eating clean foods, got that part down.
My options are EQ, masteron, winny, primo and proviron.

I really want to run only 3 different AAS , and I plan to run the proviron no matter what.

So if any vet bros or other guys that have used these want to suggest a cycle for me to run, that would be greatly appreciated. also PCT would be helpful

Goal: to gain steady, lean muscle gains. want to be around 215 , 10% BF or less.


Thanks in advance bros

GI

 

[Outtlaw]

This is all about personal preference. If those compounds are the only things I have to choose from, then I'd run an eq/winstrol combo.

 

[GymIntensity]

come on bros no suggestions out there

 

[blinded04]

Is this your first cycle? If it is, then go with what Outtlaw said, EQ/Winny is a pretty standard play, and it'll be more than powerful enough for a first cycle. If it's not your first, then look at what worked for you before, and which ones act most similarly to the options you have now.

You learn as you go, but Outtlaw's suggestion is a good starting point for most people, and you seem to have a sturdy enough build to handle it.

 

[GymIntensity]

Is this your first cycle? If it is, then go with what Outtlaw said, EQ/Winny is a pretty standard play, and it'll be more than powerful enough for a first cycle. If it's not your first, then look at what worked for you before, and which ones act most similarly to the options you have now.

You learn as you go, but Outtlaw's suggestion is a good starting point for most people, and you seem to have a sturdy enough build to handle it.

ive ran one "HALF ASS " cycle of winny. that was my first and only cycle but an uneducated cycle.... so this is going to be pretty much my first cycle after full research


also, my training history is about 5 years now. im 22. started at 282lbs max benchin 130 to 216lbs benchin 280 max.

thanks for help bros

 

[Ramcononer]

Id say train a little while longer and get your base a little stronger..your young and your test should be throught the roof anyway..you have all the time in the world to use gear when you get a little older...Just my .02 ...but good luck to you man.

 

[GymIntensity]

Id say train a little while longer and get your base a little stronger..your young and your test should be throught the roof anyway..you have all the time in the world to use gear when you get a little older...Just my .02 ...but good luck to you man.

ya im one of the guys who doesn't have "high" levels of test.... appreciate your comment tho bro

 

[bigmouth2006]

you can't get test?

 

[steelmass]

I will never run another cycle without test.

 

[bigmouth2006]

I will never run another cycle without test.

amen bro, amen

 

[X Man]

eq- 400mgs ew for 14 weeks
primo 500mgs ed for 1-8
winny 50mgs ed 7-14
proviron 50mgs ed week 1-14



all that means shit if u dont have the diet in check though

 

[Bruce]

eq 400-600 ew for 14 weeks
winny 50mg ed 1-6 and again 10-15
proviron 50mg ed whole cycle,
no need to use primo as well.

 

[GymIntensity]

you can't get test?

i can get test bro, just worried about daym gyno and estro.
im very gyno prone... just scared of that along with bloat........
maybe if i run aromasin the whole time it would be alrite, either way I do not want a lot of weight gain , other than lean lean muscle.

diet is in check. taking in about 2500 cals per day

 

[GymIntensity]

eq 400-600 ew for 14 weeks
winny 50mg ed 1-6 and again 10-15
proviron 50mg ed whole cycle,
no need to use primo as well.

ya i like how that looks bruce. any need for an AI during cycle from the EQ???

pct - clomid and nolva???? nolva by itself be enough?

 

[bigmouth2006]

i can get test bro, just worried about daym gyno and estro.
im very gyno prone... just scared of that along with bloat........
maybe if i run aromasin the whole time it would be alrite, either way I do not want a lot of weight gain , other than lean lean muscle.

diet is in check. taking in about 2500 cals per day

i would run test and use liquidex or aromasin and that should take care of gyno and bloat and u can use test prop. and if start to get unwanted sides you can stop and they will go away quickier

 

[GymIntensity]

Alrite bros. I think i have decided what I want my cycle to look like.

week 1-10 EQ 300mg
week 5-10 winny 100mg eod
week 1-10 proviron 50mg ed

pct: clomid , nolva

natural supps: redkat

fatburners: thermogenII (ECA stack) 2 weeks on 2 weeks off


feel free to critique however you bros think i might need to tune this cycle up

 

[GymIntensity]

hey bros how less effective would this cycle be if done without the winny???


winny has been changed to week 5-10 @ 50mg ED also

 

[Bruce]

i think that you will gain a lot more strength and muscle hardness with the winny added. eq proviron is a great cycle but i still would want winny, var or tbol in there. no u don't need any anti-e's with the eq. peace, started mine last night. the tbol pumps should come any day now. also bro i would kickstart the eq cycle with the winny. then you can really feel it, especially since the eq won't kick in hard for several weeks

 

[Apexx]

Alrite bros. I think i have decided what I want my cycle to look like.

week 1-10 EQ 300mg
week 5-10 winny 100mg eod
week 1-10 proviron 50mg ed

pct: clomid , nolva

natural supps: redkat

fatburners: thermogenII (ECA stack) 2 weeks on 2 weeks off


feel free to critique however you bros think i might need to tune this cycle up

1-12 EQ 400mg/wk (EQ is slow, I'd run a min of 12 weeks)
1-4 Winny 50mg/ed (little jumpstart)
9-13 Winny 50mg/ed (Eq will still be in your system past week 12)
1-12 Proviron 50mg/ed

 

[Bruce]

i agree 100%. this is perfect bro. eq should be 400mg for sure 300mg is too low. k to you apexx.

1-12 EQ 400mg/wk (EQ is slow, I'd run a min of 12 weeks)
1-4 Winny 50mg/ed (little jumpstart)
9-13 Winny 50mg/ed (Eq will still be in your system past week 12)
1-12 Proviron 50mg/ed

 

[Apexx]

i agree 100%. this is perfect bro. eq should be 400mg for sure 300mg is too low. k to you apexx.

thanks bor. I tried to throw some green back your way, but it won't let me.

 

[GymIntensity]

i agree 100%. this is perfect bro. eq should be 400mg for sure 300mg is too low. k to you apexx.

sweet bro, that sounds good to me. plus as apexx said the EQ runs slow, which is exactly what I am wanting. I'm not dying for any huge fast gains.
Slow and steady is perfect for me

how bout this

weeks 1-12 EQ 400mg e/w
weeks 1-4 winny 50mg ed and weeks 9-12 50mg ed
weeks 1-12 proviron 50mg ed

pct Nolva


hows this look bro

 

[GoldenDelicious]

i am a very strong advocate of low dose test only cycles for relatively inexperienced roid users using human grade stuff in countries where it is legal to do so, along with appropriate ancilliaries during and post cycle.

i see no need for more exotic synthetic AAS for one with your training history. none.