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i be kiz

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I want to take oil for some good fat, but i've heard i should have 4-5 tablespoons a day, and for flax that's just too expensive, yet extra virgin olive oil tastes like shit to me. Do i have any alternatives? thanks
 
fish oil
walnut oil = tastes great
canola oil

all rich in omega 3s
 
are they all about equal in...quality...like what about udo's or whatever? should i have x amount of this oil and y amount of this? please elaborate on a good oil diet (lol wtf?)
 
You could always try to mix the oil of your choice into a protein shake. That might make it easier to stomach.
 
good idea...i got some udo's oil and damn it tastes pretty fuckin good...but i cant chug that shit...too costly...so i think im gonna do 1 TBSP of that a day with 4 olive (in a shake)
 
I want to start taking Flax Seed Oil, but I'm not sure how many times a day, when in the day, serving size, everything to know to add it into my supps. thanks.
 
My first question is where are you buying your flax? You might just be paying too much for it. Personally, I do two of flax and two of fish, but it's probably not cheaper than what you are taking now.
 
I've been getting mine at Vitamin shoppe...im sure there is somewheer better i could be getting it. It's about 10 bucks for a bottle with 17 tablespoons
 
Where is everyone getting Udo's Brand Oil from or where are the best prices on it? I see it being talked about a lot on here. thanks
 
i wouldnt waste your money or time going out of your way to shuvel in a spoon of efa's

just eat a well rounded diet from all the food groups and meat groups throughout the week.

if you eat one fatty peice of salmon you will have more than enough efa's for the whole week
 
"PrinceCharming" said:
i wouldnt waste your money or time going out of your way to shuvel in a spoon of efa's

just eat a well rounded diet from all the food groups and meat groups throughout the week.

if you eat one fatty peice of salmon you will have more than enough efa's for the whole week


How would this be enough for the whole week, that's like saying if you eat a shitload of protein one day you are good for a whole week.
 
i also got udo's choice blend from vitamin shoppe...lol i think it was 8 bucks for a smaller one...it actually tastes pretty damn good IMHO
 
I want to start taking Flax Seed Oil, but I'm not sure how many times a day, when in the day, serving size, everything to know to add it into my supps. thanks.
 
James, I take my straight with a spoon, although some people will mix it into food or a protein shake. Personally, I don't think "when" matters much, as your body can store it without problems. I take mine in the morning, it's convient and I don't forget about it. Because I am on a fairly high-carb diet, 2 tbsp (plus the 2 of fish oil) should be plenty for me. The low carbers seem to use more.
 
Seed vs Oil

Hey, hasn't anyone tried taking flax seed directly instead of flax seed oil? I bought some at the herbal shop a few weeks ago and the seller swore it was just as effective. He said a couple of tablespoons per day would work fine. And 500grams cost 2 euros (2.4 US$)!

Anyone?
 
Seeds are also good because they provide small but significant amounts of protein and fiber. Same with nuts. Walnuts are the second highest source of omega-3's after flax (among plant sources) - a handful of walnuts will provide 20g's fat (omega's), 5g's protein and 3g's carbs, all 3 of which are fiber. For monounsaturated fats try: peanuts, almonds - delicious, and have more micronutrients.

By the way, $10 for bottle of fish or flax oil is very little, for something that is so beneficient to dietary content
 
Flax seeds are OK

but you have to grind them
which is not very convenient

Stick to the oil (bottle not caps)
 
Re: Seed vs Oil

confid12000 said:
Hey, hasn't anyone tried taking flax seed directly instead of flax seed oil? I bought some at the herbal shop a few weeks ago and the seller swore it was just as effective. He said a couple of tablespoons per day would work fine. And 500grams cost 2 euros (2.4 US$)!

Anyone?

the problem with flax seeds is that one table spoon has only 4g of fat, 0.4 sat, 0.7 mono, and 2.9 poly fat.
compare this to a tbl spoon of flax oil which has 12g fat, 1g sat, 2g mono, and 8g poly.
the flax seed oil gives you a concentrated source of the good fats.
 
it's also important to take sufficient liquid with flax seeds. at least 1/4 pint to each tbl spoon of seed.
 
At the moment I down between 6-9 tbl spns of olive oil, I usually put 3 in a glass and just get it over with, I am on CKD at the mo so I need quite a lot of fat to get into ketosis!
 
LeeJunFan said:
At the moment I down between 6-9 tbl spns of olive oil, I usually put 3 in a glass and just get it over with, I am on CKD at the mo so I need quite a lot of fat to get into ketosis!

Man, I would say that pouring it over a salad is a much tastier way to enjoy your olive oil... it makes the salad delicious!

But beware: only extra-virgin olive oil is what you want. This is the one made out of first pressed olives. Normal olive oil is crap: refined from residuals of previously pressed olives. Stay away from that. Obviously, extra-virgin is far more expensive than normal. But isn't that the case with any virgin?:D
 
I can't belevie what some of you are doing to get some good fats in your diet. forget spending money on oil and other supplements and taking down nasty tasting oil, just cook every thing with olive oil like chicken and eggs, eat more fish like salmon (remember fish is also high in protein) and add nuts to your oat meal or what ever else you would enjoy them with. no spending extra cash and it all taste good, and your diet will be primo!:D
 
test-monkey said:
I can't belevie what some of you are doing to get some good fats in your diet. forget spending money on oil and other supplements and taking down nasty tasting oil, just cook every thing with olive oil like chicken and eggs, eat more fish like salmon (remember fish is also high in protein) and add nuts to your oat meal or what ever else you would enjoy them with. no spending extra cash and it all taste good, and your diet will be primo!:D

Doesnt cooking with the oil destroy the omegas we are after?
 
Judo Tom said:


Doesnt cooking with the oil destroy the omegas we are after?

yep, heat destroy some (not all) of omega 3s

that's why raw salmon is better than ultra-cooked canned salmon
 
The dude at Whole Foods yesterday told me that Fish Oil Omega 3's are much more "bio-available" than in Flax.

Didn't get the feeling he was pulling my leg either because the fish oil was cheaper.

The Fish Oil caps I got are only 1gram (10 calories). Should I take 3/day with food? I noticed one serving of flax has 8 grams of omega 3's.
 
Bran987 said:
The dude at Whole Foods yesterday told me that Fish Oil Omega 3's are much more "bio-available" than in Flax.

Didn't get the feeling he was pulling my leg either because the fish oil was cheaper.

The Fish Oil caps I got are only 1gram (10 calories). Should I take 3/day with food? I noticed one serving of flax has 8 grams of omega 3's.

Fish oil is better than flax seed oil as for omega 3s
and liquid is better than pills
 
Thanks Anthrax....
 
Judo Tom said:


Doesnt cooking with the oil destroy the omegas we are after?

cooking at low heat will not destroy much if any, it's when it starts to burn that is destroy the omegas, also I pour more on after cooking it, and use olive oil on salad and stuff so I get all the omega.
also canned salmon is nasty just use smoked it's almost raw and tast fine, but can be pricey
 
i don't see where you guys are coming up with walnut being a good source of omega-3's. hemp oil i believe is third in line after fish oils and flax oil for omega-3 content.

and canola is a good source for monounsaturates, as are almonds, olive oil, macadamia, pecans, peanuts.

as a matter of fact, you can get all the monounsaturates (and omega-6's) from a vast variety of nuts and from olive and canola oils.

omega-3's are gonna have to come from flax, hemp (although it's still mostly omega-6), fish oil (or salmon and some other fatty fish)

this site may be helpful for you guys. i just hope it's accurate.

http://www.curezone.com/foods/fatspercent.asp
 
Oils are certainly the best sources of EFAs

But nuts (walnuts and almonds especially) are also good siurce of good fats and they are more convenient (when you don't eat at home)
 
And what would you guys say is best: hemp or flax seed oil? I've read hemp has a higher proportion of Omega 6, which is better than Omega 3...
 
confid12000 said:
And what would you guys say is best: hemp or flax seed oil?
flax is better than hemp oil b/c flax is richer in w3s

I've read hemp has a higher proportion of Omega 6, which is better than Omega 3...
Wrong
you already take enough omega 6s
You just need more omega 3s
 
both omega-6 and omega-3 FA's are important, but omega-6 are easy to get for most people.

omega-3's are involved in stimulating lipolysis, formation of anti-imflammatory prostaglandins, ect., and are the harder of the 2 to get.

i believe the optimum ratio is 2:1 omega-3:omega-6
 
Your most important fatty acids are your omega-3s and your omega-6s. The body requires a proper balance of omega-3 and omega-6 essential fatty acids.

Flax seed oil contains the right balance of these two essential fatty acids. Vegetable oils only contain omega-6 oils. Ingesting too much omega-6 with too little omega-3 creates a tendency towards inflammation, high blood pressure and other imbalances.

Most Americans ingest too much omega-6 and get very little omega-3. Taking flax seed oil won't counterbalance this. Most people need to deliberately ingest extra omega-3 to balance the vegetable oils in their diet.

There are only three reliable sources of omega-3: wild game, deep ocean fish (most salmon by the way is farm raised and does not contain a significant quantity of omega-3) and fish oils. So, fish oil supplements will give you the extra omega-3 your body needs.

Paul Bergner gives his clients the option of eating a couple of cans of sardines each week or taking fish oil for their omega-3 requirements. I think most people will opt for the fish oil.

So, yes, you can take both. Of the two oils, I think the fish oil is more important for most people. Flax oil is good nutrition, but fish oil is more balancing for our SAD (Standard American Diet) nutrition.
Steven H. Horne

copy and paste! :)
 
flax oil is 4:1, which isn't the right balance. if you were to only get your EFA's from flax, you'd have an imbalance due to too high of an intake of omega-3 FA's. but, since noone does that, it's a good source of omgea-3's to balance out the typical omega-6 intake.

udo erasmus (udo's choice oil), says the ideal ratio is 2:1, not 4:1 which flax is.

however, EPA and DHA (long chain omega-3's) found in fish oil are better alternatives to the omega-3 FA's (alpha linolenic acid - short chain) in flax oil.
 
Only a couple of cans of sardines take care of a week's worth of omega 3 requirements? And add protein...So, how nasty are they?
 
delldell2 said:
Only a couple of cans of sardines take care of a week's worth of omega 3 requirements? And add protein...So, how nasty are they?

not that bad.....
 
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