Oh Nuts!

[Ramcononer]

Does anyone else notice a little shrinkage during a cycle? I don't know if they shrank or if im just paranoid...My woman says she doesn't notice a difference so I dunno...How long into PCT do they usually return.... is this normal?

Sust250 500mgs a week1-10
40mgs Var ed 6-10
just started week 7

 

[Prizz]

Does anyone else notice a little shrinkage during a cycle? I don't know if they shrank or if im just paranoid...My woman says she doesn't notice a difference so I dunno...How long into PCT do they usually return.... is this normal?

Sust250 500mgs a week1-10
40mgs Var ed 6-10
just started week 7

Wow, did you do ANY research before starting this cycle at all? Yes, AAS can cause Testicular shrinkage, but it will return when done..... That's like AAS 101, the 1st day of class bro..... Read up....

rizz

 

[Bozwell]

hcg?

 

[temetrepo]

some of us had some testicular pain as well... yes HCG will bring them back

 

[littleb]

Bro go plat for the search and read old posts.. Not a flame, but its worth it...

and yes shrinkage of the boys happens, some more then others as we are all different. I always shrink up, thats why hcg is my friend now.The pain which feels like a dull ache is normal. you will feel it as they shrink then when they come back as well....... ohhh and welcome to our world...muhaaaaaaaaaa

 

[Goldprospector]

Has this been designated a day for people who don't research to post up questions and information?

 

[Ramcononer]

No Need to flame..I did do My research. I have My Pct. I was just wondering if most people experience this...I dont even think I am experiencing it I was looking for others input on how they recover and how long it takes to recover in that area....My post didn't read anything like I have itchy nipples now what, THAT would have been lack of planning and researching. I have clomid I have nolva I have AIFM I have Multivitamins I have sesapure and there is alot of conflicting arguements IN PREVIOUS POSTS about the effectiveness of HCG. I just asked a simple question about nuts shrinking and how others recover. and I know why the nuts shrink im short you brains says to the little guys shut off cuz you have test in you..hence they shrink cuz they are not working out..almost like a muscle....k around.

 

[Huckster]

Deca turns my nuts into the size of skittles.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

low dose HCG during cycle will swell nuts back up (if you desire that)... go low (200iu) because AIFM use primes LH response

 

[littleb]

No Need to flame..I did do My research. I have My Pct. I was just wondering if most people experience this...I dont even think I am experiencing it I was looking for others input on how they recover and how long it takes to recover in that area....My post didn't read anything like I have itchy nipples now what, THAT would have been lack of planning and researching. I have clomid I have nolva I have AIFM I have Multivitamins I have sesapure and there is alot of conflicting arguements IN PREVIOUS POSTS about the effectiveness of HCG. I just asked a simple question about nuts shrinking and how others recover. and I know why the nuts shrink im short you brains says to the little guys shut off cuz you have test in you..hence they shrink cuz they are not working out..almost like a muscle....k around.

Thats why i said no flame intended bro, I know non plats search option is shit, anyhow, hcg is the stuff for that.. some bros really shrink up fast, some not much at all.. I am in the first catagory, so about mid cycle i hit up the hcg at 500iu eod till they back.. good luck bro..

 

[macrophage69alpha]

usually running an AI with test only there is minimal if any "shrinkage"..

 

[littleb]

usually running an AI with test only there is minimal if any "shrinkage"..

ohhh man i swearr to you i do not mean to butt heads.............. but.. no matter what AI's i run still shrink up.. i think everyone reacts diff, I have been on same cycle as a few other of my bros, same everything AI's too some shrink a lil, some a lot(me) some not at all, or at least not noticable and i was not fu@@@@ checking lol.... I am just stating what i have found...

 

[macrophage69alpha]

you have been on test only and aromasin/aifm/letro (dex is too weak in this aspect- since it does not lower estradiol as significantly)?

though agree that even with minimal suppression some will experience "shrinkage"...

btw- discussion of differing results and opinions are what make for better understanding

 

[littleb]

you have been on test only and aromasin/aifm/letro (dex is too weak in this aspect- since it does not lower estradiol as significantly)?

though agree that even with minimal suppression some will experience "shrinkage"...

btw- discussion of differing results and opinions are what make for better understanding

never tried aifm, I said i few days ago was gonna give it a shot..the rest i have, some cycles i shrink more then others but for me i shrink bout the same on adex as i do arom.. and only tried letro once, not even for a whole cycle.. still gots some left over... I also take proviron every cycle, as all my cycles are test based..
Good to see folks can still not see eye to eye and still debate.. just 4 me at least i know i shrink every time, wish i could say i didnt...

 

[macrophage69alpha]

test based, is not test only. therein lies the issue with your comparative experience

 

[littleb]

test based, is not test only. therein lies the issue with your comparative experience

but shut down is shut down, granted some compounds are harder then others.. I have never lied on here, i love test actually sust to be exact, and all my cycles have had a test base whether test deca test eq, dbol dont like me, but my point is, if the boys are shut down dont matter what compound caused it, when shut down some shrink more then others do on same cycle..Thats the only point i was trying to make. everybody reacts differently, if we all reacted the same to every compound this would be easy.. lol
Thats just my exp. and good debate bro.. i have always valued your opinion on here... as i said dont mean to bump heads.. i just here to learn and help when i can..../

 

[Prizz]

No Need to flame..I did do My research. I have My Pct. I was just wondering if most people experience this...I dont even think I am experiencing it I was looking for others input on how they recover and how long it takes to recover in that area....My post didn't read anything like I have itchy nipples now what, THAT would have been lack of planning and researching. I have clomid I have nolva I have AIFM I have Multivitamins I have sesapure and there is alot of conflicting arguements IN PREVIOUS POSTS about the effectiveness of HCG. I just asked a simple question about nuts shrinking and how others recover. and I know why the nuts shrink im short you brains says to the little guys shut off cuz you have test in you..hence they shrink cuz they are not working out..almost like a muscle....k around.

Yeah, my post was a bit harsh.... Sorry bro, I didnt' mean to sound like a prick.... Actually, my nuts don't shrink "much", but they do shrink some.... Not a big deal though... The GF hardly notices, she doesn't play with the boys much anyway, so it's a non issue..... I gotta get her to pay more attention to the boys actually.....

rizz

 

[macrophage69alpha]

the issue is that there is little if any shut down if using test only with an aromatase inhibitor.
Estrogen is the main negative feedback mechanism for the HPGA in the natural hormonal system.

this applies only to testosterone.

Other steroids have both direct and metabolite activity, not necessarily produced via aromatization, that will suppress the HPGA. Steroids with Progestinic activity in particular are quite supressive, tren, deca, winstrol, etc...

 

[Bruce]

mine didn't use to, its not terrible now, they def are smaller though, i get the pain too, it sucks, when they are shrinking and when i bring them back with hcg they ache. i need to bust a lot on cycle cause it helps the aching. i love inflating them with hcg though, and i run aifm with my cycles and they still shrink, but like i said mine never shrink so much that its noticeable unless you are inspecting them

 

[littleb]

the issue is that there is little if any shut down if using test only with an aromatase inhibitor.
Estrogen is the main negative feedback mechanism for the HPGA in the natural hormonal system.

this applies only to testosterone.

Other steroids have both direct and metabolite activity, not necessarily produced via aromatization, that will suppress the HPGA. Steroids with Progestinic activity in particular are quite supressive, tren, deca, winstrol, etc...

I wont comment on other steroids, but with regards to test, without getting into specifics you said " little if any shut down" dont you agree that even with a little shut down the effects will vary from one bro to the next... being even a little shut down MAY cause shrinkage in some and not in others.It all has to do with how your body responds/reacts.. Its the same thing (well almost) as some bros able to run high insane cycles and recover fine while others run 250mg a week and recovery hard even with perfect pct..eveyones body is thier own little science project and everyone is different and unique..

god that last part sounded gay lol

 

[Ramcononer]

Im using AIFM and I don't think Im shrunk..I think Im paranoid.

and Rizz you def. gotta get her to pay attention to the boys...that shit is the best. Make sure she's gentle..if been with some girls that don't know how to handle that shit and they think they can be rough!