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B0ARDIN087
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are there any muscle groups in the chest that are neglected from doing the normal incline,decline presses and fly's?
Often neglected chest muscles
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Dave949
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The chest consists primarily of two groups. Pectoral major and minor. Although they are technically considered two separate muscles they do share the same insertion point at the shoulder. There is another muscle and I can`t remember the name, it is a small muscle that I believe runs under the pec near the arm pit area and by doing bent arm pullovers supposedly works this muscle. I may be off a lil on this one.
But as far as working the two primary pec muscles the exercise you listed will get em. dips, benches (all angles), flys, crossovers, pec deck etc.
But as far as working the two primary pec muscles the exercise you listed will get em. dips, benches (all angles), flys, crossovers, pec deck etc.
incline bench press. 
collegiateLifter
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this thread is starting to make a mountain out of a molehill imho.
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Boardin087 said:
This is dangerous thinking. Don't overcomplicate things.
And don't do flyes.
I generally only do dips for my chest, though sometimes I add incline hammer presses. It's arguable whether you need to include inclines in your program, but forget flyes entirely; there's no point.
in terms of db presses, i do ONLY incline... flat once a month or so but I still do every other imaginable exercise.
btw... coracobrachialis... coraco is referring to the coracoid process. If you know your anatomy the word tells u exactly where the muscle articulates.
btw... coracobrachialis... coraco is referring to the coracoid process. If you know your anatomy the word tells u exactly where the muscle articulates.
Show pictures of one person that has built a great chest with just dips. Dips are good, but they need to be used along with something else. What happens when you burn out from dips?
Benching is one of the 3 main moves. IMO, it is very sad to say you are a very serious lifter and never incorporate a benching movement in your routine.
Also, something like inclines hits a lot of the upper chest area, which will increase your OHP. There are just so many stabilizers that will be ignored if you stick to dips alone.
-sk
Benching is one of the 3 main moves. IMO, it is very sad to say you are a very serious lifter and never incorporate a benching movement in your routine.
Also, something like inclines hits a lot of the upper chest area, which will increase your OHP. There are just so many stabilizers that will be ignored if you stick to dips alone.
-sk
DeepZenPill
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I love dips, but I need inclines too. And flyes are useful as a stretch, but not for much more than that.
Dave949
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Can`t argue with dips (considered the upper body squat).
Can`t argue with flat benches (dumbell or bar).
Can`t argue with inclines (dumbell or bar).
Can`t argue with declines either.
Can`t argue with smith machine benches (flat or incline).
They all work. They are all good. End of story.
Can`t argue with flat benches (dumbell or bar).
Can`t argue with inclines (dumbell or bar).
Can`t argue with declines either.
Can`t argue with smith machine benches (flat or incline).
They all work. They are all good. End of story.
ProteinFiend
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As my coach from HS used to say, Bench Press is the Cadillac of chest exercises.
I have personally put on size and muscle density w/ flyes. Most who say they dont like doing them, have no clue how to do them. Get on the bench and rep out w/ the 80's for 2-3 months I 'll bet anyone there chest will benefit in size. As for inclines, the cornerstone of a well developed chest IMO.
Synpax
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Hey,
Here's some straight dope for you:
Currently, your 3 types of benches are working your entire pecks, but are emphasizing the mid area (flat), upper area (incline), and lower area (decline).
The area that isn't getting that special attention is the interior of the pecks. About the best excercise to hit this area is cable crossovers.
Here's some straight dope for you:
Currently, your 3 types of benches are working your entire pecks, but are emphasizing the mid area (flat), upper area (incline), and lower area (decline).
The area that isn't getting that special attention is the interior of the pecks. About the best excercise to hit this area is cable crossovers.
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Re: Re: Re: Often neglected chest muscles
They often put unneeded stress on the shoulders (esp. the pec-delt tie-in). You shouldn't be doing these for the same reason you shouldn't be doing tricep kickbacks and lateral raises. Heavy compound movements are the name of the mass and strength game, not these pumping exercises.
And a better question:
What's the reason FOR doing flyes? They don't hit anything that pressing or dip movements don't. And what they do hit, they do with less weight and more risk.
Awes0me said:
They often put unneeded stress on the shoulders (esp. the pec-delt tie-in). You shouldn't be doing these for the same reason you shouldn't be doing tricep kickbacks and lateral raises. Heavy compound movements are the name of the mass and strength game, not these pumping exercises.
And a better question:
What's the reason FOR doing flyes? They don't hit anything that pressing or dip movements don't. And what they do hit, they do with less weight and more risk.
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Debaser
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What anatomy are you talking about? You can't isolate your inner pecs...how many muscles do you think make up your chest anyway?
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Debaser
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You seem to be the one needing a lesson in anatomy/physiology. A muscle either contracts or it doesn't. There is no way to target the fibers closer to the sternum.
Synpax
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Whelp, Debaser, put yourself in my shoes a minute.
I have a copy of Strengh Training Anatomy by Delavier that says you can emphasize different parts of the pecs (and obviously a lot of poeple here think it's true because they do different types of presses). STA has a perfect score of 5 stars on Amazon with 69 glowing reviews (almost all glowing, anyway).
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=sr_8_1/002-0809183-8301650?v=glance&n=507846
So you are suggesting that the same muscle cannot be worked on different parts? Are there not multiple heads of certain muscles that get worked better than others, like with tris?
So is Delavier out of his mind? Is he misleading BBs? does anyone else have an opinion because his text is the foundation of my routine design and I'd like to know.
I have a copy of Strengh Training Anatomy by Delavier that says you can emphasize different parts of the pecs (and obviously a lot of poeple here think it's true because they do different types of presses). STA has a perfect score of 5 stars on Amazon with 69 glowing reviews (almost all glowing, anyway).
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=sr_8_1/002-0809183-8301650?v=glance&n=507846
So you are suggesting that the same muscle cannot be worked on different parts? Are there not multiple heads of certain muscles that get worked better than others, like with tris?
So is Delavier out of his mind? Is he misleading BBs? does anyone else have an opinion because his text is the foundation of my routine design and I'd like to know.
Synpax
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crew9 said:
I never used the word isolate, and already said that I didn't use the word isolate in a previous post. It's hard to have a discussion when you are only speaking and not listening.
re: problems with STA. Can you refer me to other, better texts? When I set out to find a good book STA was exactly what I was looking for - exercises in detailed description that showed exactly what muscles were being used.
