off cycle - now what??

[leonidas33]

32 years old... just finished my first cycle ever... prior to cycle I would only lift without any gains and left only with soreness for the next couple of days. Didn't know of any better options. Then ran my first cycle. I made awesome strength and size gains in 10 weeks. Basically I felt that was how my body was supposed to be responding to my workouts the past 6 years!!!

So now my cycle is over and i have lost about 5 of my 15lbs. I have been running a proper PCT - post cycle therapy - program consisting of clomid, novaldex, and HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - (as well as tribulus and dhea). I have a feeling in a short time I may be back to where I originally was. My energy and endurance are totally gone. In fact, I have no desire anyways going back in and spinning my wheels like I did for the last 6 years!

Could i have very low nat test levels that would contribute to this? If so, should I consider hrt?

 

[nottingham1]

havnt a clue mate,i had the same with my first cycle,back to square 1,only new to this myself,just keep reading on this site and you will learn more,i have but definatly in no position to give you advice,good luck

 

[holy ghost]

If you can get HRT and afford it then seize the opportunity immediately.
Your test levels are low becuase you just dropped off a cycle
The HCG and clomid should pick it back up soon.
Nelson and Omega and PP i believe offer great OTC products that make you feel semi juiced haha. Go buy some noxplode use it while your off take some creatine and weightgain to retain your size while your off, a lot of it is a mental thing man, you cant depend on drugs to get you through workouts. Best of luck
Ghost

ps make sure your eating tons of clean calories
eat 6-8 times a day ev 2 hours sparingly
1-2 gallons of water

 

[tempest2003]

this happened to me as well brother. now its time to learn about diet. then you plan a cycle for a sometime about a year from now. that will keep you motivated. set some obtainable goals to maintain until you cycle again. play with your diet and learn what calorie counting is about and protein/carb/fat ratios

 

[holy ghost]

i like what tempest said i hope our posts can help you

keep ya head up

 

[lostinfitness]

lay out your cycle. Maybe the AAS you were using tend to drop off after your cycle is finished. some AAS add waterweight and strength but they don't stick.

good Luck!!!

 

[leonidas33]

lay out your cycle. Maybe the anabolic androgenic steroids you were using tend to drop off after your cycle is finished. some AAS add waterweight and strength but they don't stick.

good Luck!!!

"stick"? What do you mean? They are not legit and basically a scam product? This was test enanthate from GA Labs. I have heard nothing but good stuff about this lab. What do you think? No doubt the stuff was effective while I am on... but if someone does not have sufficienct nat test levels, when they come off their cycle and revert back to their normal low level, is that going to allow the newly gained muscle to be maintained?

 

[lostinfitness]

When i say stick I just mean your gains wither away along with your muscle. Waterweight, etc. I am not sure why it is happening. GA is top of the line. Good luck!!

 

[leonidas33]

When i say stick I just mean your gains wither away along with your muscle. Waterweight, etc. I am not sure why it is happening. GA is top of the line. Good luck!!

Thanks for clarifying... I would still love for someone to answer the following...

"but if someone does not have sufficienct nat test levels, when they come off their cycle and revert back to their normal low level, is that going to allow the newly gained muscle to be maintained?"

 

[Nelson Montana]

Lots of things wrong.

For one, this is why I tell people to do a short first cycle. Get a feel for it. Instead, everyone wants to be Superman in 2 months and they go...what happened?

Secondly, Clomid can cause fatigue.

Thirdly, using Nolva PC is like closing the barn after the horse ran away. If you don't have gyno there's no need for it. That's 1995 thinking.

Tribulus in your position is worthless. Read why: http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=109&cat=0&page=1

DHEA may raise estrogen.

What you used is a factor but there's nothing that will change that now.

As for supps -- BIG BLAST, VIGOR and MyogenX will help. Stop the Clomid and use 1/4 mg of arimidex eod for 2 weeks. Other than that, give it time. And next time, be more carefull. Good luck.