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Odd question. Orals more effective than Oils?

whackjob

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I have cyccled for over 10 years now. One thing that I have always observed is that my oral runs (particularly oral winny and anavar) have always produced the best results for me.

MG for MG orals seem to "effect me" more than oils.

Why is this? Does it have something to do with orals' ability to raise IGF levels more efficiently in the liver and muscle cells? (read that soemwhere?!?!)

I can get more (clean gains only noted here) out of a 50 mg/day VAR + 300
Test /week cycle than I could 300 Test / week + 400 mg of: EQ/Deca (I gain weight but its sloppy bloat even with AI's)/Masteron/etc.

I've run 750 Test/week with AI's to keep it "clean" and still, 50 mg/var or winny (with 300 T/week) have produced superior results hand down.

Thanks
 
I think it's the consistent daily doses of orals that make them seem more effective. Oil based are time released, but are not necessarily consistently dispersed on a daily basis due to injection site(scar tissue?)locations, etc.

However if you run oral compounds and take them daily at the same time everyday you can be fairly sure you're getting consistent amounts of AS in your system every day. I could be off on this? Just my theory. And btw-I think for the most part oral only cycles are not as effective as when combined with injectables.
 
In general, yes. Compare 350 mgs a week (50mgs ED) of d-bol to the same amount of test. D-bol wins.
 
Nelson Montana said:
In general, yes. Compare 350 mgs a week (50mgs ED) of d-bol to the same amount of test. D-bol wins.

Not neccasarily. I took dbool at 60mg ED for 3 weeks as a kickstart for my Test E (500mg/wk), gained heaps of weight but 0 strength and felt tried throighout the day all the time. Once the Test E kicked in on week 4, i started gaining ALOT of strength, good mood, energetic and slow and steady weight gains of 2-5lbs a week.
 
no1_brawler said:
Not neccasarily. I took dbool at 60mg ED for 3 weeks as a kickstart for my Test E (500mg/wk), gained heaps of weight but 0 strength and felt tried throighout the day all the time. Once the Test E kicked in on week 4, i started gaining ALOT of strength, good mood, energetic and slow and steady weight gains of 2-5lbs a week.

That's not a comparison, that's an addition.
 
Nelson Montana said:
That's not a comparison, that's an addition.

it is a comparison. Week 1-3 the dbols were kicked in and i felt liek shit with crappy gains. As soon as the Test E was kicked in fully, i was energetic and strong
 
no1_brawler said:
it is a comparison. Week 1-3 the dbols were kicked in and i felt liek shit with crappy gains. As soon as the Test E was kicked in fully, i was energetic and strong


So when you took the test you stopped the d-bol?

Sounds like bad d-bol bro.
 
Nelson Montana said:
So when you took the test you stopped the d-bol?

Sounds like bad d-bol bro.

Yes thats right, i stopped dbol after 3 weeks. If it was bad dbol, why the 10lb increase in Bodyweight first week?
 
Nelson Montana said:
So when you took the test you stopped the d-bol?

Sounds like bad d-bol bro.

That's what I was thinking. Hell, they could of been salt tablets. You could gain 10 lbs of pure water weight off of those in no time.
 
BigCracker said:
That's what I was thinking. Hell, they could of been salt tablets. You could gain 10 lbs of pure water weight off of those in no time.

i got the dbols off the same source that i got my Test E which turned out to be real and nolva which also turned out to be real, so i doubt they were fake dbols
 
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