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Odd access 6" from injection site?!

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Odd abcess 6" from injection site?!

Okay my buddy took his first delt injection last monday. He took a little much for a first injection in that location 2cc of 300mg (175mg Primo / 125mg Test per cc)

He has what he calls a VERY PAINFUL lump right under the skin 6 inches off to the side and below the injection site. The lump is actually below the delt where it meets the bicep. It is red, swollen and painful.

I have never seen anything like it - I am not sure it is related, but it is a coinsidence. The injection site itself is sore, but this area 6" away with the lump is much more sore.

I told him to start anti-biotics immediatly just in case.
 
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i have seen a quad shot move down to the knee....the knee got infected and swole up and had to be drained several times
 
jon79 said:
i have seen a quad shot move down to the knee....the knee got infected and swole up and had to be drained several times
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Interesting... In all my years in this game I have never heard of that. Proof you learn something new every day.
 
wtf i thought you where mocking that other guy,


sorry the threads sounded familiar
 
If everything is going on like you say and it is



RED,

Sounds like he has managed to get a slight infection, most likely the injection, not the gear.
 
from here on out, im never starting another cycle without some antibiotics on hand...30 500mg amoxicillins for less then $10--why wouldn't anyone...I injected in my teardrops not to long ago and what i f cking mistake...one leg was fine but the other one blow up...no abcess but i was worried for a week or so...the antibiotics took care of it and saved me a doctors trip...With all the UG gear going around antibiotics should be kept on hand just like anti-e's...I'm not picking on UG gear for one can get infections with human grade also but common sense probably says otherwise
 
solidspine said:
If everything is going on like you say and it is



RED,

Sounds like he has managed to get a slight infection, most likely the injection, not the gear.
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Yeah - I made the gear and I know it is sterile.
 
I jabbed a nerve once and that made my leg swell up but it wasn't an abcess, went away after a few days. I hope I never have to deal with an abcess.
 
cuthroat said:
I jabbed a nerve once and that made my leg swell up but it wasn't an abcess, went away after a few days. I hope I never have to deal with an abcess.
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i believe that is what i did to my tear drop...but it got really infected...red--hot for about 5 days...antibiotics took care of it...
 
SPOONY LUV said:
from here on out, im never starting another cycle without some antibiotics on hand...30 500mg amoxicillins for less then $10--why wouldn't anyone...I injected in my teardrops not to long ago and what i f cking mistake...one leg was fine but the other one blow up...no abcess but i was worried for a week or so...the antibiotics took care of it and saved me a doctors trip...With all the UG gear going around antibiotics should be kept on hand just like anti-e's...I'm not picking on UG gear for one can get infections with human grade also but common sense probably says otherwise
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What dosage do you take and for how long?
 
black sheep said:
Okay my buddy took his first delt injection last monday. He took a little much for a first injection in that location 2cc of 300mg (175mg Primo / 125mg Test per cc)

He has what he calls a VERY PAINFUL lump right under the skin 6 inches off to the side and below the injection site. The lump is actually below the delt where it meets the bicep. It is red, swollen and painful.

I have never seen anything like it - I am not sure it is related, but it is a coinsidence. The injection site itself is sore, but this area 6" away with the lump is much more sore.

I told him to start anti-biotics immediatly just in case.
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Antibiotics won't hurt but that is normal with the UG gear here lately. The same thing happened to me injecting 1 cc of BD test e in my delt. My delt got sore and swolloen first then it moved down my arm toward my elbow. My arm was huge and red/swollen and sore as hell. It went away after about 10 days with no antibiotics. It was just extreme inflammation due to the alcohol or somethign in the gear.
 
black sheep said:
Okay my buddy took his first delt injection last monday. He took a little much for a first injection in that location 2cc of 300mg (175mg Primo / 125mg Test per cc)

He has what he calls a VERY PAINFUL lump right under the skin 6 inches off to the side and below the injection site. The lump is actually below the delt where it meets the bicep. It is red, swollen and painful.

I have never seen anything like it - I am not sure it is related, but it is a coinsidence. The injection site itself is sore, but this area 6" away with the lump is much more sore.

I told him to start anti-biotics immediatly just in case.
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This happens to me quite often with delt shots.It will last about 4-5 days then slowly go away.
 
Re: Odd abcess 6" from injection site?!

black sheep said:
Okay my buddy took his first delt injection last monday. He took a little much for a first injection in that location 2cc of 300mg (175mg Primo / 125mg Test per cc)

He has what he calls a VERY PAINFUL lump right under the skin 6 inches off to the side and below the injection site. The lump is actually below the delt where it meets the bicep. It is red, swollen and painful.

I have never seen anything like it - I am not sure it is related, but it is a coinsidence. The injection site itself is sore, but this area 6" away with the lump is much more sore.

I told him to start anti-biotics immediatly just in case.
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The "red, swollen, painful" part bothers me a bit, BS.

Get him some Keflex (500mg 4x/day) and start applying hot, moist compresses to the area immediately -- you might be able to avoid a drainage procedure that way... maybe not, but its a first step.

This truthfully sounds lymphatic to me. The body sequesters infection well. He probably used less than optimal sterile technique and brought some skin pathogens in with the needle. This is the usual cause of all shooter abscesses. Hopefully its just an inflamed lymph node that will respond to conservative therapy -- the hot compresses can work wonders... don't exclude them (you can just take a wash cloth and get it nice and hot with tap water and apply firm direct pressure to the site).

Good luck,

-J
 
Does he have a high fever, warm to touch?

You mention that there's another lump that pop out.....

Go to the dr or to the er just to be on the safe side.
 
Thats great and all to keep antibiotics on hand but how in the world do you know your body is responsive to that form of penicillan? There are several types of antibiotics that can be used but it takes a culture to find out which one works in your body. Also don't forget that your body builds up a resistance to these antibiotics over time and use. Its better to use preventative measures like using rubber gloves, sterile needles, rubbing alcohol, etc.
 
A,most everytime I inject stealth gear I noticed the pain is more intense about that distance from the injections site. Its a littlw wierd but it goes away for me I hope the same for your friend
 
Re: Odd abcess 6" from injection site?!

black sheep said:
Okay my buddy took his first delt injection last monday. He took a little much for a first injection in that location 2cc of 300mg (175mg Primo / 125mg Test per cc)

He has what he calls a VERY PAINFUL lump right under the skin 6 inches off to the side and below the injection site. The lump is actually below the delt where it meets the bicep. It is red, swollen and painful.

I have never seen anything like it - I am not sure it is related, but it is a coinsidence. The injection site itself is sore, but this area 6" away with the lump is much more sore.

I told him to start anti-biotics immediatly just in case.
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I nor anyone I have ever known has had infections, abcesses, etc, like the ones I hear on this forum. A lump from oil buildup when injecting too fast happens, but that goes away, but a full out Dr. visit after an injection is crazy.

I noticed many ppl do not take sanitary measures before injecting. Your skin is full of bacteria, and once you expose that syringe to air, bacteria is exposed to it. I never do anything without Peroxide and alcohol pads. Even after a shower because a shower actually exposes a fresh layer of skin on your body, releasing milions of bacteria to replace what you just washed off.

I always swab my skin with some peroxide, then swab with alcohol. After I load a pin and release the air, I swab that also. Inject, slowly I might add, and swab again w/an alcohol pad. All fresh pads of course with every step. Swabbing the top of a vial with alcohol also so you dont get residue buildup that attracts bacteria.

Ask your friend what steps he takes and maybe you'll see what's up.
 
hankes64 said:
Thats great and all to keep antibiotics on hand but how in the world do you know your body is responsive to that form of penicillan? There are several types of antibiotics that can be used but it takes a culture to find out which one works in your body. Also don't forget that your body builds up a resistance to these antibiotics over time and use. Its better to use preventative measures like using rubber gloves, sterile needles, rubbing alcohol, etc.
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Keflex is not a form of penicillin. It is a cephalosporin that treats 90% of the skin pathogens found in normal (non-immune compromised) people. If you have the luxury of a culture, that's great -- and undoubtedly the best -- but most folks don't. Your body doesn't build up a resistance, the bacteria that live in and on you do, however (they're intelligently designed... forgive the dig :chomp: )

Take the Keflex and apply the heat... hopefully you'll avoid a drainage procedure.

-J
 
jerol said:
Keflex is not a form of penicillin. It is a cephalosporin that treats 90% of the skin pathogens found in normal (non-immune compromised) people. If you have the luxury of a culture, that's great -- and undoubtedly the best -- but most folks don't. Your body doesn't build up a resistance, the bacteria that live in and on you do, however (they're intelligently designed... forgive the dig :chomp: )

Take the Keflex and apply the heat... hopefully you'll avoid a drainage procedure.

-J
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Good info bro.

I was referring and generalizing all antibiotics, which I should not have done.

Is Keflex by script only?
 
justinjones1963 said:
What dosage do you take and for how long?
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i took ampicillin 500mg 2 times a day and Metronidazole 400mg 1 a day...i had these on hand because i was about to use them for a stomach virus....my leg blow up at close to the same time and these two seemed to take care of them....But i think amoxicillian would be fine at 500mg 3 to 4 times a day...
 
hankes64 said:
Thats great and all to keep antibiotics on hand but how in the world do you know your body is responsive to that form of penicillan? There are several types of antibiotics that can be used but it takes a culture to find out which one works in your body. Also don't forget that your body builds up a resistance to these antibiotics over time and use. Its better to use preventative measures like using rubber gloves, sterile needles, rubbing alcohol, etc.
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ya i hear ya but how many times have you gone to the doctor for almost anything and he puts you on something and your back in there two weeks later with no changes and the doctor ups the dosage and you try something else...

If you have a infection, i don't think you could do any harm in trying ampicillin or amoxicillin or just plain penicillan....These are cheap as antibiotics and if they don't work in 7 to 10 days or its getting worse not better, then hit the doctors office...i can't believe that anyone who uses antibiotics for a week to two weeks(out of a year or longer) will build up a resistents to them...And if they don't work, so be it...You can tell your doctor you already tried XYZ and save yourself another trip because in all likely hood, if you don't have a abcess, he is just gonna put you on some antibiotics and tell ya to come back in two weeks anyway....

I will also say that you can't go wrong with some stuff called Culturelle..It a probiotic with Lactobacillus GG 10 billion cells...This stuff is what they call "good" bacteria(same stuff that is in yogurt but at a much higher volume)...A good thing to take when taking antibiotics...Antibiotics kill alot of your bacteria good and bad and this stuff if one of the best over the counter meds you can use to put the good bacteria back in....One can get this stuff and any CVS...Hell even if your not taking antibiotics, this stuff works...
 
Re: Odd abcess 6" from injection site?!

toxicsambo said:
I nor anyone I have ever known has had infections, abcesses, etc, like the ones I hear on this forum. A lump from oil buildup when injecting too fast happens, but that goes away, but a full out Dr. visit after an injection is crazy.

I noticed many ppl do not take sanitary measures before injecting. Your skin is full of bacteria, and once you expose that syringe to air, bacteria is exposed to it. I never do anything without Peroxide and alcohol pads. Even after a shower because a shower actually exposes a fresh layer of skin on your body, releasing milions of bacteria to replace what you just washed off.

I always swab my skin with some peroxide, then swab with alcohol. After I load a pin and release the air, I swab that also. Inject, slowly I might add, and swab again w/an alcohol pad. All fresh pads of course with every step. Swabbing the top of a vial with alcohol also so you dont get residue buildup that attracts bacteria.

Ask your friend what steps he takes and maybe you'll see what's up.
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i've been playing around with gear off and on for almost 20 years and even in the 80s when alot of the fake sh t started appearing and i had my hands on alot of it(unknowingly) i have never got an infection or abcess...And some of my injection techs back then weren't exactly the smartest....

I don't know if its im getting older or what but i got my first bad infection a few weeks back....Although i believe it was because of where i injected and not any other reason...But what you say is right on...
 
i've had injection pain migrate in the quads before.

If it gets really bad tell him to go to the doctor and tell him you were rough-housing with your roommate drunk one night and a tac jabbed you in the deltoid (i've used this story before :) )
 
hankes64 said:
Good info bro.

I was referring and generalizing all antibiotics, which I should not have done.

Is Keflex by script only?
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Yes,

Keflex (and all antibiotics for the most part) are prescription only. Easy to find on the internet though... and worth the investment.

-J
 
Shot in at an angle and it went Sub Q as opposed to IM.....I bet the site will slowly move as well
 
injected t400 and boy did it hurt, 10 effin days it hurt my quad. swollen, sore, warm, but not an infection. just injection site irritation. happened last 2 injects...

i'm pretty good about being clean. wash hands, cleanse area with alcohol, clean vial with alcohol, clean site again then inject, then pressure with alcohol/cotton
 
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