oatmeal addition...

[gettinripped]

just added a serving of all natty pb to my morning oats. along with a tbl spoon of honey and some cinnamon.. very good.

 

[Dial_tone]

I try not to mix carbs and fat in the same meal unless it's dinner where I usually have what I want.

 

[MILF69]

I tried that once...got sick to my stomach. I mix my whey pro. in. Very good. If not I just add some splenda and cinnamon on top. Still better than plain!

 

[BOWTECH]

I tried that once...got sick to my stomach. I mix my whey pro. in. Very good. If not I just add some splenda and cinnamon on top. Still better than plain!

SPLENDA

 

[gettinripped]

i do the splend w/ cinammon and almonds normally. i was just looking for a diff route this morn. how many scoops of whey do you add?? is it flavored?? i'm using pro complex, i've thought about it before but never actually tried it. you add it in while cooking or after??

 

[steig]

I like to add a little splenda, cinammon, and then some sugar free maple syrup

 

[JKurz1]

I try not to mix carbs and fat in the same meal unless it's dinner where I usually have what I want.

bingo

 

[ChefWide]

ummmm.... carbs and fat are fine if your working for your carbs (complete complex) and/or you are partitioning those carbs with rALA...

however... HONEY!!?! honey is a completely straight to the wall invert sugar.. almost like sucking back pure glucose! WHY are you eating honey ANYWHERE near a diet except possibly in a PWO shake?

If you have a reason, i wanna learn... if not, you are doing both your effort and your sustained energy levels a disservice.

 

[JKurz1]

Ummm no.....think about it...insulin spike (any carb, even someproteins....) combined with fat consumption = fat gain.....Ive tried it, there is no better approach to staying lean than nxing fat/carb meals.............

 

[Lifterforlife]

I try not to mix carbs and fat in the same meal unless it's dinner where I usually have what I want.

I personally do not buy the food partitioning stuff(does Beardi come to mind?). If this does work for you or anyone, and it does, it is not the food partioning that is doing it, rather the deprivation of calories in that meal, thus creating a caloric deficit.

With the food partitioning protocol, this in fact means you could never have something as simple as a peanut butter and jelly sandwich? I don't think so.

I believe the claim is that P+F without C will limit fat storage because there is no insulin to store the carbs. Fat can in fact be stored by itself. Even protein can cause insulin by the way. Bottom line is the idea of switching between protein and fat meals only, or no carbs with fat, etc. is digestion is just way too slow and if you are eating say 6 meals per day, you will more than likely still be in digestion process from your prior meals anyway.

If you read Beardi, I believe even he is backing off this stuff now.

 

[gettinripped]

ummmm.... carbs and fat are fine if your working for your carbs (complete complex) and/or you are partitioning those carbs with rALA...

however... HONEY!!?! honey is a completely straight to the wall invert sugar.. almost like sucking back pure glucose! WHY are you eating honey ANYWHERE near a diet except possibly in a PWO shake?

If you have a reason, i wanna learn... if not, you are doing both your effort and your sustained energy levels a disservice.

hey chef,
no reason other than a little flavor. didnt realize the honey was that bad to add. it's not a pwo shake but is my morning meal about an hour after downing my pwo.

 

[ChefWide]

I personally do not buy the food partitioning stuff(does Beardi come to mind?). If this does work for you or anyone, and it does, it is not the food partioning that is doing it, rather the deprivation of calories in that meal, thus creating a caloric deficit.

With the food partitioning protocol, this in fact means you could never have something as simple as a peanut butter and jelly sandwich? I don't think so.

I believe the claim is that P+F without C will limit fat storage because there is no insulin to store the carbs. Fat can in fact be stored by itself. Even protein can cause insulin by the way. Bottom line is the idea of switching between protein and fat meals only, or no carbs with fat, etc. is digestion is just way too slow and if you are eating say 6 meals per day, you will more than likely still be in digestion process from your prior meals anyway.

If you read Beardi, I believe even he is backing off this stuff now.

I eat carbs, clean and complex, with almost every meal... my lean growth and fat loss has been steady and acceptable without hiccup for quite a while.. i guess i just found what works for me diet wise, but i have dropped a pretty steady 96+lbs of fat, so i have some experience to back up the assertion that carbs are the furnace that burns fat... unless you are willing to spend a year in CKDs, then a moderately carb, cal restriced iso caloric diet is the shiiiiiiiiaaaaat...

 

[Lifterforlife]

I eat carbs, clean and complex, with almost every meal... my lean growth and fat loss has been steady and acceptable without hiccup for quite a while.. i guess i just found what works for me diet wise, but i have dropped a pretty steady 96+lbs of fat, so i have some experience to back up the assertion that carbs are the furnace that burns fat... unless you are willing to spend a year in CKDs, then a moderately carb, cal restriced iso caloric diet is the shiiiiiiiiaaaaat...

Can't agree with you more. Your original post stated not mixing of carbs and protein, etc. So, I just responded as a literal interpretation of the post.

 

[ChefWide]

Can't agree with you more. Your original post stated not mixing of carbs and protein, etc. So, I just responded as a literal interpretation of the post.

my post?! or DialTones post? my only observation is as an athlete that is in a constant state of 'GET LEANER, SUSTAIN MY ENERGY' there is no reason to eat honey! Now, if your heart and soul cry out of for honey once in a while, satisfy that urge before it runs away with you, but as a regular meal addition? Honey is friggin pure invert sugar, read: SATAN! and a no no with high fats, even if they are MCTs...

did i really say that about protein? if i did, please kick me...




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[Lifterforlife]

my post?! or DialTones post? my only observation is as an athlete that is in a constant state of 'GET LEANER, SUSTAIN MY ENERGY' there is no reason to eat honey! Now, if your heart and soul cry out of for honey once in a while, satisfy that urge before it runs away with you, but as a regular meal addition? Honey is friggin pure invert sugar, read: SATAN! and a no no with high fats, even if they are MCTs...

did i really say that about protein? if i did, please kick me...




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Wow, I am so sorry. I picked the wrong post to quote. Many apologies, you are correct. It was not you....

 

[Dial_tone]

I personally do not buy the food partitioning stuff(does Beardi come to mind?). If this does work for you or anyone, and it does, it is not the food partioning that is doing it, rather the deprivation of calories in that meal, thus creating a caloric deficit.

With the food partitioning protocol, this in fact means you could never have something as simple as a peanut butter and jelly sandwich? I don't think so.

I can't stand peanut butter and jelly....probably haven't had one in 15 years I'd rather have a bacon bit sandwich than that.

 

[JKurz1]

With the food partitioning protocol, this in fact means you could never have something as simple as a peanut butter and jelly sandwich? I don't think so.


lol....thanks for proving my point, waste of time arguing with you - get your nutrition however you want dude....

Chew - you appear pretty intelligent, so you'll understand my point.......too each his own.....I never got down to sub 5% before I started p/c, p,f meals.........I have 3 carb and pro meals a day...thats all I need....1 in am when gly is low, 1 pretrain, 1 post train not including my PW shake of course....) other three are pro/fat......my goal now is to bulk up about 20-30lbs over the next 1+ years......might switch to more pro/carb meals and eat something at midnight too.....2 things I've never tried but want to are eating after a few hours of sleep and ddrinking a high gi, whey shake during training,...........also need to knock off the 5 boxes of myoplex carb sense bars that I've had (for free) for months now.....they are gonna go bad......might toss some in my am oats.....mmmm...

 

[Lifterforlife]

Interesting interpretation of my post... You are right, argument would most definitely be a waste of time.