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^^^ exactly!
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^^^ should have asked if you were taking HCGenerate during cycle or HCG, Steve is correct...it is what you do during cycle to minimize shutdown will determine the success of your PCT and HPTA recovery.
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^^^ you probably ran your pct too early and undershot things.
the test will remain suppressing you for up to 5-6 weeks after last injection. so doing a blood test too early is pointless.
post a timeline of when was your last injection and when you ran pct. also total T means nothing.. its your LH that will determine what is really going on.
in the future run hcg while the test is exiting your system and then run your PCT. don't just run pct and then stop and expect yourself to be recovered
I did the exact same thing the first couple cycles I did, but you will learn how to time things better as you gain more experience. for now I would continue PCT. the first PCT you ran while you were actually still techniqually on cycle
hcgenerate should be ran during cycle as should the forma.. so if you ran them just for pct you went into pct with raisin nuts and high estrogen. that would further delay recovery. yeah its frustrating but you will learn from trial and error
the test will remain suppressing you for up to 5-6 weeks after last injection. so doing a blood test too early is pointless.
post a timeline of when was your last injection and when you ran pct. also total T means nothing.. its your LH that will determine what is really going on.
in the future run hcg while the test is exiting your system and then run your PCT. don't just run pct and then stop and expect yourself to be recovered
I did the exact same thing the first couple cycles I did, but you will learn how to time things better as you gain more experience. for now I would continue PCT. the first PCT you ran while you were actually still techniqually on cycle
hcgenerate should be ran during cycle as should the forma.. so if you ran them just for pct you went into pct with raisin nuts and high estrogen. that would further delay recovery. yeah its frustrating but you will learn from trial and error
thanks.. the biggest mistake newbs make when running PCT's is they expect a long ester to exit their body after the last injection like magic. unfortunately its a long ester for a reason.. it will stick around and as long as it does it will suppress for weeks ..
Massroid1020
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What is your LH levels?
^^^ your LH is humming along fine. your total test levels will follow .. you ran a 16 week cycle. it will take 4 months off to be ready for your next cycle.
in the mean time continue running your supps. test again in a month and your test levels will be much higher.
again I understand you are frustrated but testosterone is one of the most suppressive AAS out there so you need to continue working out and killing it.
I still think a little hcg would have sped things up a lot more .. a lot of guys also will throw in a low dose of clomid as well to boost your LH but your LH bounced back nicely without it which is great.
in the mean time continue running your supps. test again in a month and your test levels will be much higher.
again I understand you are frustrated but testosterone is one of the most suppressive AAS out there so you need to continue working out and killing it.
I still think a little hcg would have sped things up a lot more .. a lot of guys also will throw in a low dose of clomid as well to boost your LH but your LH bounced back nicely without it which is great.
if you ran a 4 week pct you would have undershot things even if you waited 2 weeks.
next time run hcg spread out of 3 weeks.. then run your pct 6 weeks with a long estered cycle like that.
had you run a short 4-6 week cycle with a short ester you could of gotten away with just a 4 week pct and be done with it.
I disagree with waiting 2 weeks. I think PCT should be started earlier and continued longer. Though I agree a shot of HCG moves things along. Clomid does not.
Preachercurls
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so you're saying that you would run unleashed/post cycle combo right after last injection for let's say 8 weeks ( 3 caps each )
Yes. Some guys even double dose it. Better safe than sorry. And in the case with UNLEASHED, it's such a good price, it's a "why not?"
