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Npp/ Tren Combo

johnnyboy3689282

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So, the big contemplation....
Stack NPP and Tren Ace...
Stats as of Friday..
24 5'7'' 199 lbs.. 9.4% body fat... Skin folds
Diet is perfect... I plan to compete in the future, but dont feel im ready... yet... i still have some growing to do and im not in a rush....

NPP 300mg per week 1-8..
Tren Ace 180 mg per week 1-6...
Sust 275 at 550 mg per week 1-10...
Cabergoline - ED .25mg
Letrozole - If needed
HCG -250 IU's x2 per week


PCT- 4 weeks after last sust pin...
Weeks 1-4 DAA -3g ED
Weeks 1-4 Finaflex Hardcore Revolution Black PCT- 4 caps ED
Weeks 1-8 HCGenerate - 4 Caps a day
weeks 1-4 Clomid - 25/25/25/25
Weeks 5-8 Bridge - 4 caps a day
Weeks 5-8 Osta -75 mg 5 on 2 off
Weeks 5-8 S4 25 mg ED

All food is weighed and measured...
Cutting Diet

Meal 1 - 1.5 cups egg whites/ 1/2 Cup Organic Cooked oat or 2 Slices Ezkiel toast...
Meal 2- 12 oz Chicken breast( 12 oz Tilapia/ 10 oz. Filet mignon) (no seasoning, as salt bloats me) 2 cups cooked veggies
Pre Workout meal 3- 1 cup Greek Yogurt, 1 serving of unsalted Almonds, 1 Scoop protein, 1 serving BCAAs.
During Workout- 1 serving BCAAS
Post Workout meal 4- 2 scoops Protein Shake- 1 serving BCAAS, 1 apple, 1 Bannana
Meal 5- 12 OZ Chicken/ 1 Cups White Rice or 1 Cup organic Oats
Meal 6- 12 OZ Chicken/ (12 oz Tilapia)/ 2 cups cooked veggies...
Meal 7- 1 Scoop Casein Protein or 1 cup Eggwhites if hungry....
20 mins of cardio ED after workout on stationary bike with resistance...

Training- 8 day split
Sun- Back (width Emphasize)Deadlift
Monday - off
Tues- Legs
Wed - Chest
Thurs- back (Thickness) (will also do 6-8 sets of Bis and forearms)
Fri -off
Sat -Shoulders, Calves
Sun- Arms

I keep my set range moderate - 12-15 sets per muscle
Legs and Back - 20-25 sets, biggest muscle and have to work them harder to get them to grow.... but has been working.
I also sleep min 8 hours every night... And if i get 6 hours of sleep, bet that im going to take a nap for two hours. 8 hours ed is min for me...
Fortunate that i was a catcher in college and have caught for 18 years, so i have big legs, and monster calves...

I take my Omegas 3,6,9 oils for healthy fats, no fats after i workout... and keep my sodium intake down.. Im fortunate that sugar doesnt effect me as much as sodium... All chicken and fish is organic... and Filet is Grass feed Natural beef, no additives.... or so they say... I do drink a glass of milk a day, for some sat. fat, but im not dieting for a show yet. Then i want to clean bulk with the cycle listed above... Of course more carbs if needed since i do get hungry as hell on deca.... I want clean bulk... Hoping for 20 lbs on this cycle, and i have the mindset to keep everything i gain... This will be a short cycle, but a powerful one..

Just got my blood work done and im awaiting results... Have been off cycle for 7 months, 5 with PCT.... Dont wanna rush back on... I beleive in time on means time off... All my levels have been in check... have had bloods done 3 times after cycle and everything is good to go...

Im a very experienced user. Have used tren and deca and recovered perfect from both. Maintained all gains from last cycle...
I Ran a long cruiser cycle last year of 40+ weeks. Used tren for 16 weeks, broke into 2 seperate 8 weeks cycles...

I am not prolactin or gyno prone and have used Both Deca, and tren Ace, with nothing but nights sweats from the tren....I Have not used NPP or tren E/ tri Tren....

I do get blood work done reguarly. This is a cycle geared towards the end of the year, and would like some verteran input...

Or should i just pick one compound and run a higher dose... highest i went was 300 mg of tren for 2 weeks( maintained 40 mg ED or 75 mg EOD), and 250 mg a week of deca for 10 weeks... Got great gains from both..

now guys play nice.... Not trying to have the controversy that happened over the last two days.. i just want some advice....

Thanks Hurricane for allowing me to repost... Good looks Bro...

Johnny
 
gear choice and doses are right on spot for a monster bulk, exactly what you need! But I'd replace that sust with cyp.

what is your prot, carb and fat intake? we won't calculate that instead of you :P
 
Mixing tren and nnp is a bad idea bro..Might want to rethink that cycle, it can cause serious shutdown.No need to go that route, so many other combos that can give killer results
 
What you suggest cane?

dang i don't wanna break down my macros bro.... Lol, enough to cut. I've been on cutting n bulking cycles with spot on diets... I compete so I know what works and what doesn't.... I'll calculate when i'm home...

I say this as i'm at the bar having a social night, couple guiness, can't lie, but this is not an all the time thing.. Not that social tho as i'm sitting here on the forums as i'm out.. Shows you where my heart is n why im dedicated... Arnold Classic champ 2014...

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I know mixing the two is a bad idea, but I have no prolactin or sides using both.... this is why I ask tho...
I know all sides associated with stacking two 19 nors... I feel I have a good base of ancillaries for use if there is estrogen or gyno..but regardless, I could be side prone, as I have never stacked the two...
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Mixing tren and nnp is a bad idea bro..Might want to rethink that cycle, it can cause serious shutdown.No need to go that route, so many other combos that can give killer results

He's only taking 480mg combine between the tren and the NPP, that won't cause a problem. Combining deca or NPP or even EQ with tren is only a problem if the mg's are up there a bit.
 
Ill agree, but I figure i can always raise the dose during if needed... The problem I'd I don't know how I am going to respond to stacking both 19 nors.. even with proper ancillaries..

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Mixing tren and nnp is a bad idea bro..Might want to rethink that cycle, it can cause serious shutdown.No need to go that route, so many other combos that can give killer results

I second that this guys balls are as big as an eight pound bowling ball!

And min. 25mg of tren ah day
 
The other thing is, im going to be a body builder, i dont think im huge, but i think im going down a a good path, considering the doses my buddies are using... their the idiots....
 
He's only taking 480mg combine between the tren and the NPP, that won't cause a problem. Combining deca or NPP or even EQ with tren is only a problem if the mg's are up there a bit.

well look at his test ratio, not necessarily true.Sure, good chance he will be fine but there is a chance.

If done,Its suggested a 2:1 ratio of test to the combined dose

In other words, if using 750mg test or so, then it's approx 200mg of each.

I prefer choosing one or the other myself to be honest, i just dont play with it
 
after more n more contemplation. im wondering if I should just run the tren or deca at a dose a lil higher, n keep it simple, considering simple is working. If its not broke, why change it... wait.until I need to stack the.two...

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after more n more contemplation. im wondering if I should just run the tren or deca at a dose a lil higher, n keep it simple, considering simple is working. If its not broke, why change it... wait.until I need to stack the.two...

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I think that's gonna be your best option thats why I recommended droppeing the npp, upping the tren and adding mast. I def think dropping a 19nor and adding a dht is the way to go
 
Lol ... Might as well tuck then suckers in the rest of the way and turn it into a virgina

You want me to turn them into a state???? lol, your funny...

I proposed a cycle about 2 weeks ago that was prop, tren, and Mast... Ive always believed in if your gonna stack... Run Test Best, DHT Deriative, and nandrolone (one), with all the proper Ancillaries... I know i could make great gains with just a test only cycle of about 500 mg... But i made great gains from low dosing... I still have plenty of time until i start, and this is why i keep asking for different opinions...

There are many good options out there... I would like to run primo, anavar and mast in the future, as my BF is getting low enough to take advantage....
 
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