NPP dosage amounts

[Illuminati]

well you know what
ive never done npp so i cant say that what i said is actually true
however ive heard other vets say the advantage with sides was the ability to clear the system of nandrolone quickly not that it wouldnt cause the sides
i guess i should have been more specific
however i feel that logically if nandrolone is the substance causing the sides npp should be just as bad as deca for sides occuring if not continuing past the last shot

i would agree with this. its the same with tren. many people use tren acetate (as opposed to enanthate) due to the fact that if they experience sides from the tren, they can get the tren acetate out of their system faster tren enanthate.


really what it is all going to boil down to is how often you want to inject. do you want to inject ED/EOD or do you want to only have 1 or 2 injections every week. pick your poison

 

[acneman]

i would agree with this. its the same with tren. many people use tren acetate (as opposed to enanthate) due to the fact that if they experience sides from the tren, they can get the tren acetate out of their system faster tren enanthate.


really what it is all going to boil down to is how often you want to inject. do you want to inject ED/EOD or do you want to only have 1 or 2 injections every week. pick your poison

YEP

 

[Ulter]

given the half life of deca
at a weekly dose of 350mg
at the end of week 2(remember these are aproximations)before your next shot you will have an esterified level of nearly 260mg deca meaning you used aprox 440mg of non ester nandrolone in 2 weeks or around 220mg/week
at the end of week 6 before your next shot you will have an esterified level of nearly 350mg of deca
meaning maintaining that dosage will give you 350mg of non ester nandrolone used per week
at the end of week 2 with npp if the half life is 4.5 days you will have less than 200mg esterified npp meaning you got over 500 mg nandrolone released from ester and used
at 4 weeks of npp 100mg/eod you will have an esterified level of almost 300mg npp meaning you are getting 400mg non esterified nandrolone per week

npp works faster because more nandrolone is released faster
deca works longer after last injection
thats it
you still get the same amount of non esterified nandrolone over time
and at 6 weeks the difference at the same dose is less than 50mg/week

on a mg to mg basis they are the same
different timing is required
i think for me a frontload of 1.5 times the dose of deca will work better as it gives a steady blood level and fewer pokes
but saying you need twice as much npp to get the same results is simply wrong

Yes you get the same amount over time but because the longer ester compounds longer you'll have high blood levels with the deca than you will be able to achieve using the same amount of NPP. Because in the 6th week you still have deca in your from the first week while the NPP is long gone. And from the second week and the third fourth and fifth. But with NPP you'll only have nandrolone from the 4th on. Are you going to make me get out the spreadsheet and show you?

 

[acneman]

Yes you get the same amount over time but because the longer ester compounds longer you'll have high blood levels with the deca than you will be able to achieve using the same amount of NPP. Because in the 6th week you still have deca in your from the first week while the NPP is long gone. And from the second week and the third fourth and fifth. But with NPP you'll only have nandrolone from the 4th on. Are you going to make me get out the spreadsheet and show you?

yes please

 

[boyer]

If you are prone to deca gyno and deca dick, does npp less likely to cause these?

Alot of bros don't have problems with npp that have had problems with deca. I have only done npp though.

 

[black sheep]

Has anyone actually done 800mg of NPP??? I might just up my NPP from 230mg E3d to 345mg e3d (I have lab tested 230mg/ml NPP)

 

[solidspine]

George Spellwin will nominate this for post of the week, in his weekly contest,
Since it is the first real discussion regarding gear in about 4 weeks, pleasant and informative.


Also Ultra pm’ed me this evening stating that he is a proponent of NPP because it give him nice Lean Muscle gains.

 

[solidspine]

Ultra,


chill


It was a joke

 

[black sheep]

Well I am 3 weeks into this run with NPP. I added the NPP to a Test and Bold Cyp cycle. Once I added the NPP I dropped the test down. I have plenty of Stallion 230mg/ml NPP so I think I might up the dosage to 345mg e3d and see what happens. If Ulter says that is a good idea - I am willing to take his word and give that a shot. I will let everyone know what happens...

Hmm.. Maybe I will go inject a little more NPP right now... I think I hear it calling me from my safe.

 

[Nytol2]

5-600mg per week of deca or NPP seems to be the magic number, most people who have gone higher than this, have not seen a great deal of extra returns.

NPP needs to be shot at least every 3 days really.

150mg EOD was good for me.