now this is weird

[Vascular Freak]

started 50mg var along with the prop/masteron cycle i am running....i don't know what to contribute this to but in the past days i gained 10 lbs, i have been hammering the calories and am bloated a little, weight jumped from 194 to 204lbs, strength is up, my face is noticeably oily all the time, and the weirdest thing is whe i eat foods like steak, chicken etc my jaw and the sides of my face get extremely pumped up to the point where its hard/painful to chew....and the muscle in my face near my jaw and cheeks etc get swolen like a muscle when you train it...its so freakin weird is that normal???

this must be dbol rather than var...my lower back gets extremely pumped easily as well????

 

[misticat]

the pumped feeling is from the var... i get that too... and the bloat is definatly from the test

 

[advanced-stealth]

Most people do not get that much bloat from prop.

the pumped feeling is from the Anavar - oxandrolone - ... i get that too... and the bloat is definatly from the test

 

[Vascular Freak]

well i am mixing 125mg of cyp with 100mg prop and shooting it eod.....maybe the test dosage snuck up on me.....

the weird thing though is that i get jaw pump haha.....my jaw get so damn pumped when chewing gum, steak, chicken etc that i have to take a break and then go back to eating.

 

[needtogetaas]

well i am mixing 125mg of testosterone cypionate with 100mg testosterone propionate and shooting it eod.....maybe the test dosage snuck up on me.....

the weird thing though is that i get jaw pump haha.....my jaw get so damn pumped when chewing gum, steak, chicken etc that i have to take a break and then go back to eating.

I have gotten that jaw pump using a few deferent cycles.

 

[drdug27]

like you say it could be dbol. once i ordered tbol and i gained 20 pounds and looked like the marshmallow man. unfortunatly all my suppliers pills look the same, so the only conclusion is to get them tested and i juat said fuck it.

 

[kidd73]

well i am mixing 125mg of testosterone cypionate with 100mg testosterone propionate and shooting it eod.....maybe the test dosage snuck up on me.....

the weird thing though is that i get jaw pump haha.....my jaw get so damn pumped when chewing gum, steak, chicken etc that i have to take a break and then go back to eating.

Have you noticed your face getting red from the var? It's a good pump but it makes me look like Rudolph. Anyone experienced this as well?

 

[enacer420nj]

600mgEQ/250mgTestE Jaw pump sometimes...I think its the hunger from EQ making me eat like A somalian that was just handed a big mac....jaw muscles can get pumped like any other muscle I guess...just ask my gf

 

[Vascular Freak]

600mgEQ/250mgTestE Jaw pump sometimes...I think its the hunger from Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - making me eat like A somalian that was just handed a big mac....jaw muscles can get pumped like any other muscle I guess...just ask my gf

roflmao...ive heard girls say that now that you mention it!!! lol


i assume its either the var or the fact that i bumped the test up a bit to 750mg or so with no AI's just masteron....my hands and ankles get pumped like mad for no reason either

 

[st8grad]

My wife gets "jaw pump," but I am pretty sure she isn't using var.

I have gotten that jaw pump using a few deferent cycles.

 

[kidd73]

My wife gets "jaw pump," but I am pretty sure she isn't using Anavar - oxandrolone - .

How's that penis pump you ordered working?

 

[ironclaw]

well i am mixing 125mg of testosterone cypionate with 100mg testosterone propionate and shooting it eod.....maybe the test dosage snuck up on me.....

the weird thing though is that i get jaw pump haha.....my jaw get so damn pumped when chewing gum, steak, chicken etc that i have to take a break and then go back to eating.

I have the same problem when eating, I have to take little bites so I chew less. ITs got to be the tren for me, becuase its never happened before on test or eq or winny.

 

[Twoguns]

Have you noticed your face getting red from the Anavar - oxandrolone - ? It's a good pump but it makes me look like Rudolph. Anyone experienced this as well?

my whole body gets red, like a sunburn, I like it.

 

[GUESS]

started 50mg Anavar - oxandrolone - along with the testosterone propionate/masteron cycle i am running....i don't know what to contribute this to but in the past days i gained 10 lbs, i have been hammering the calories and am bloated a little, weight jumped from 194 to 204lbs, strength is up, my face is noticeably oily all the time, and the weirdest thing is whe i eat foods like steak, chicken etc my jaw and the sides of my face get extremely pumped up to the point where its hard/painful to chew....and the muscle in my face near my jaw and cheeks etc get swolen like a muscle when you train it...its so freakin weird is that normal???

this must be Dianabol - methandrostenolone - rather than Anavar - oxandrolone - ...my lower back gets extremely pumped easily as well????

I"m putting my money on the d-bol. Lower back pumps are very common among users and is a common set back for many. I won't even train my lower back anmore when on it, it's just too painful.

Can't even walk hardly ans I have to sit in the car for 5 minutes just to rest up so I can drive.

As for jaw pumps I get them all the time especially chewing beef-jerky!

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

how long is just started the var. I have never gotten jaw pump from var before. I have absolutely gotten back pumps and jaw pumps from d-bol

 

[Vascular Freak]

how long is just started the Anavar - oxandrolone - . I have never gotten jaw pump from Anavar - oxandrolone - before. I have absolutely gotten back pumps and jaw pumps from Dianabol - methandrostenolone -

about 10 days on whatever it is lol.....i almost want to drop it BUT it might be the high test dose OR the 6k cals a day i have been eating

i am wondering if this is dbol though....i am getting THICK as fuck and strength is just insane.....pumps are actually painful..i don't think var even at 75mg would do this???

 

[instant.muscle]

happened to me on my first cycle of sust and dbol

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

about 10 days on whatever it is lol.....i almost want to drop it BUT it might be the high test dose OR the 6k cals a day i have been eating

i am wondering if this is Dianabol - methandrostenolone - though....i am getting THICK as fuck and strength is just insane.....pumps are actually painful..i don't think Anavar - oxandrolone - even at 75mg would do this???

Though the half life of var is short..it is a nice slow steady stream of muscle and strength. That isnt what made u instantly jump 10lbs. And its only been 10 days of var. You are eating 6k of cals so thats alot of chewing...im willing to bet its the d bol in full swing...sounds like it!!! how many mg of bol r u taking?

 

[Vascular Freak]

my whole body gets red, like a sunburn, I like it.

hmmm......you know what that is from right???? its high BP bro be careful....red and hot in the face is from excessive BP....

 

[gautho]

Bro, i get the jaw pump thing with Gh/slin. I agree with you that the cyp snuck up on you. All in all, doesn't sound that bad of a problem with gaining 10 lbs with minimal bloat. If your not precontest, i would take this as a positive because by laws of physics, weight pushes weight and therefore you are prolly stronger and able to recruit more muscle fibers for max lifts which in turn will lead to growth.

 

[Vascular Freak]

Bro, i get the jaw pump thing with gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - /insulin. I agree with you that the testosterone cypionate snuck up on you. All in all, doesn't sound that bad of a problem with gaining 10 lbs with minimal bloat. If your not precontest, i would take this as a positive because by laws of physics, weight pushes weight and therefore you are prolly stronger and able to recruit more muscle fibers for max lifts which in turn will lead to growth.

that is exactly how i am looking at it too....i am gona drop my test back down to around 500mg ew and clean up the diet a bit and see if the bloat and unneeded pump goes away....i am not sure if i have var or dbol at this point but am not gonna sweat it.....strength is just unreal, i am like an animal and feels like there is nothing that will bog me down....however, i am gonna finsih up the last 4 weeks of this 18 weeker with tren ace/prop/masteron/and low do winstrol....and lean right down for PCT...i don't like to carry excess fat going into PCT. while on tren i can go from 10% bf to 6% VERY quickly

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

Ah y drop it. I have ran well over 1000mg of test with out jaw pumps before..its the combo of the 3 others...If you wanna loose the bloat..cut the D bol...how many wks have you been on it. Or if the end is near for the bol then stick it out and clean it up after the bol is over. Just an opinion.

 

[Selene]

sound like you are having good results with cycle, good luck to you