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Now That THAT Is Over

Nelson Montana

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This might be of ineterst to some of you. (And if it isn't, ignore it)

I was being interviewed by a guy who's writing a book on the history of steroid use and he had just gotten of the phone with Don Howorth. Don is 68 and still in great shape. Don said prior to the 65 Mr. America his daily diet consisted of 2 pounds of red meat a day, a dozen eggs and a gallon of cream! (He does admit it was excessive, but he looked pretty damn good.) He also trained 3 hours a day. (Also excessive, but...)

When it came to drug use, Don was up front. He admitted to smoking pot and hash. He'd even get high before doing a show. : ) He also said he did DOUBLE the recommended dosage of D-bol. He took 20 mgs a day.

On the other end of the scale, Bill Pearl who is now in his 70's and going strong, admitted that if he was competing today, he'd be taking what everyone else is taking in order to beat them. So it isn't so much that these guys were angels, it was just a different time. And maybe there's something to be learned from it.
 
20 mgs a day! I suspect there are kids (under 18 yo) on this board taking 5 times that amount! After all, some labs produce 50mg d-bol tabs.

On the other end of the scale, Bill Pearl who is now in his 70's and going strong, admitted that if he was competing today, he'd be taking what everyone else is taking in order to beat them. So it isn't so much that these guys were angels, it was just a different time. And maybe there's something to be learned from it.

Another way to look at it is Bill Pearl would not be competitive today unless he did take the amounts of AAS, slin and GH the pros take today.

Definitely a different time. I just hate the look desended guts on all of today's pros.

Oops, I forgot to flame you Nelson. j/k :D
 
doublebicep said:
20 mgs a day! I suspect there are kids (under 18 yo) on this board taking 5 times that amount! After all, some labs produce 50mg d-bol tabs.


which, more often than not, test out between 25-35mg (still more but...)
 
Dont believe everything you hear!!!!! Now dont get me wrong back then they did not use 1/2 the shit todays pro's use. Plus i bet gear was alot stronger then mg for mg.

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concordsize said:
Dont believe everything you hear!!!!! Now dont get me wrong back then they did not use 1/2 the shit todays pro's use. Plus i bet gear was alot stronger then mg for mg.

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I wasn't familiar with injectables in my 30's but 10 mg of dbol for 6 weeks i went from a 130 bench press 6 reps to a 305 1 rep max.so yes i believe it was stronger back then or those germans knew something we didn't.


RADAR
 
RADAR said:


I wasn't familiar with injectables in my 30's but 10 mg of dbol for 6 weeks i went from a 130 bench press 6 reps to a 305 1 rep max.so yes i believe it was stronger back then or those germans knew something we didn't.


RADAR

Ludwigs,in the blue bottle?
 
"DOUBLE the recommended dosage of D-bol. He took 20 mgs a day." - LOL. It's not as far fetched as some might believe. I remember back in the day a dude at my first gym(huge fella BTW) was considered insane with a 10 Dianabol/a day cycle. Yes they were only 5mgs back then.
 
concordsize said:
Dude radar,,, you gotta change your avatar bro I have been looking at that fat kid eating for years now..lol

LISTEN! NOW!!!!!.....I"M NOT DONE EATING YET!!!!!


RADAR
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:


Ludwigs,in the blue bottle?

Yup i believe that was them..5mgs each 90 or 100ct lil blue bottle 1/2 in X 1/2 in by 1/2 in tall.

Those babies were the bomb!!!!!!!


RADAR
 
powerforward said:
radar, you went from benching 130 to 315 in 6 weeks?
damn.

Wow! That's one heck of a jump! Besides the strength, how was the rest of it, weight gain, etc....?
 
hvywghtchamp said:


Wow! That's one heck of a jump! Besides the strength, how was the rest of it, weight gain, etc....?

I started at 148lbs...ended at 172lbs... 24 pounds of gain..bear in mind i believe i wound up keeping about 18lbs from it that wasn't too shabby. .thats on 1 bottle of dbol alone.....my mom said if i kept lifting she was gonna buy me a bra!!!


RADAR
 
bro your new last month....

He's probably like me, been here for years but got botted off for not paying the bill (plat) so signed up under another name.
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:


Ludwigs,in the blue bottle?
Oh Yeah!...I lost my virginity to Ludwigs and Rugby's from U.S.A.

First cycle...30mgs of D-bol/day with 200mgs/wk of Deca-D.
Great gains.

What can I say...I'm a two-timer,errr I mean 3xmer :horny:
 
The funny thing about those Ludwigs,they were actually a pet project of Dan Duchaine and the then infamous Laboratories Milanos out of Mexico.So even though they were cleverly disguised as German made,they were made in Mexico.With DD behind the product line,they were solid as a rock though.One of the best d-bols I have ever used.
 
well you learn something everyday...i never knew that...i still have the bottle went to look for it but didn't find where i thought i had placed it..the only thing i remember was it had methendrostrolone written on it!

RADAR
 
I love these threads. when the old timers talk about when gear was pure. makes me sad that all we have today is high volume low quality stuff. :(
 
yeah the lack of purity these days makes it hard to compare dosages accurately with the golden days ... certainly at the pro level they take way more today, but in the average hard core gym at least in my area, I recall there being more freaks in the late 70s and early 80s as compared to today - the gear was just better quality and easier to get, and people could take less and get better results by and large with moderate (by today's standards) dosages
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
The funny thing about those Ludwigs,they were actually a pet project of Dan Duchaine and the then infamous Laboratories Milanos out of Mexico.So even though they were cleverly disguised as German made,they were made in Mexico.With DD behind the product line,they were solid as a rock though.One of the best d-bols I have ever used.

lol I think that's the first one I ever used. Got it in mex and it had all german writing on it.
 
Back in 1984 I had a doctor in a small college town that perscribed any AAS and HCG I asked him for. During that same year a pharmacist refuse to fill my perscriptions! I guess he had moral issues with it.

It does seem like dianabol of yester-years was more potent and we could get great results at 10mg ED.
 
Yeah...they came shrink wrapped in 10 counts and the Deca in 25 counts. I think I still have an empty bottle ot those Ludwigs somewhere.
 
hey radar

what else did you cycle bro? Just dbol? I know I have read befrore what you did but I dont have time to look for it now? I would love to get results like those...
 
Re: hey radar

tonybuddy said:
what else did you cycle bro? Just dbol? I know I have read befrore what you did but I dont have time to look for it now? I would love to get results like those...

Back then that was the only thing i took--hell i didn't need anything else.



RADAR
 
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