Not worth it, I quit.

[tdekeyser]

I've only placed one order so far, but I was more than pleased. I also have 4 or 5 solid sources that I have not ordered from (yet), but I'm sure are 100% legit. Sounds like you rushed into it and that's why you got scammed. That sucks though anyway.

As far as your stack. Where's the test? I know you feel let down about sources as well as the benefits of AAS, but I suggest you do a little more homework on both and try again. You'll be glad. Good luck.

Scotty

I have 3000ml of decca, 4000ml of EQ and 3750ml of sust still left. Now I want to break this into 2 SOLID cycles. Any suggestions?

I am 205lbs 6'1 /15%bf.

By the way, the scam was from a source in Bosnia and it was before I found this terrific site!

 

[scottyroc]

You need some more test, then you could get 2 solid cycles. If you get more sus, I would run 500mg a week along with 400 a week EQ for 10 weeks (ironically you have exactly enough Eq left, NICE!). Make your first shot of test 1000mgs. This is called front loading and will give you an instant spike in blood levels so your gains will start immediately. Make sure you have some form of anti-estrogen on hand. Save your Deca for your next cycle. I wouldn't do any of this though until you look into some clomid therapy after that deca/eq cycle. Your nuts are probably non-existent!

Hey dude, by the way, I'm new here. How do you refresh the board? Thanks!

Scotty

 

[tdekeyser]

You need some more test, then you could get 2 solid cycles. If you get more sus, I would run 500mg a week along with 400 a week EQ for 10 weeks (ironically you have exactly enough Eq left, NICE!). Make your first shot of test 1000mgs. This is called front loading and will give you an instant spike in blood levels so your gains will start immediately. Make sure you have some form of anti-estrogen on hand. Save your Deca for your next cycle. I wouldn't do any of this though until you look into some clomid therapy after that deca/eq cycle. Your nuts are probably non-existent!

Hey dude, by the way, I'm new here. How do you refresh the board? Thanks!

Scotty

Thanks! My nuts are fine, and I am still banging the girl at least once a day. Also I know the gear is legit (tokkyo), and I am no longer afraid of higher doseges.

This is the entire reason I went with AS. I hit my platau 1 year after I started lifting, and that was 10 years ago! I have been dissapointed over and over with 'suppliments' and shit so I went with the read-deal. I am also afraid I have lost that 'edge' of the first cycle......any thoughts on that? The first cycle you are supposed to gain the most right? This sucks....

 

[scottyroc]

yeah, your first cycle is supposed to be your best, but don't worry. Do that cycle I told you about and you'll put on 20 lbs. You'll need to get a little more test though. Is the sus your using also Ttokkyo. If so it's probably called Testanon and comes in a 5ml multiuse right? If you have access to D-bol, through 35mgs. in for weeks 1-4. Test 500/deca400/d-bol 35mg seems to be the most popular 1st cycle. People gain anywhere from 20 to 40 lbs on this from what I've seen. My first (only) cycle was the one I told you (without the d-bol) and I put on 26 lbs and kept about 14lbs., and my strength gains were even better than my weight gains!

Hey bro, how do you refresh the damn screen!

Scotty

 

[gorth97]

Thanks! My nuts are fine, and I am still banging the girl at least once a day. Also I know the gear is legit (tokkyo), and I am no longer afraid of higher doseges.

If you're using deca without test, and you're still banging chicks, then your dosage is too low. Thats why you aren't seeing results; your own natural test is still at an acceptible level where you can still function in bed.

 

[drgoodbody]

here is the problem...

too many newbies think that lower dosages = lower side effects and so they opt for a mild to weak cycle. In reality what happens is that you are putting yourself in nearly as much risk (with regard to sides) at say 300mg/week of deca as you would at 600mg/week. The difference is that you should see some results at 600mg/week but not much at 300. Also EQ is definitely not what I would think of as a solid mass gainer. Most EQ is dosed at 50mg/ml and to get anything resembling decent results you'll need upwards of 500mg/wk. That means injecting 10ml !! I hate low dosage injectables.

My advice - go for higher dosage (on a mg/ml) compounds, opt for shorter cycles (THAT'S how you avoid side effects!!), and make sure you have clomid (and maybe HCG) on hand. Especially if using aromatizing androgens.

Better luck next time.

DrG

 

[MadCow1]

Well - I've done shorter cycles at lower dosages and gained way more muscle.

Some people don't respond well to lower dosages (many do and it's really cool if you do). I ussually find the problem is in the training or nutrition. Judging from the post, I assume heavy training consists of the Hammer Strength Bench Press for you.

 

[Spunky]

im sorry to hear that man.. but even at those doses, u would gain more then 5lbs in 10 weeks.
either your gear was fake or your diet and training sucked. probably the latter.

 

[Spunky]

drgoodbody.. most EQ is dosed at 50mg/ml? do many ppl still use the 50mg/ml EQ since the 200mg/ml came out?

 

[Spunky]

also, did u realize that deca relies HEAVILY on the amount of protein u consume??