Not sure how anyone could still be a self-respecting left-winger knowing this

[hanselthecaretaker]

Actually it doesn't even have to technically be left-wing/right-wing bs, but more a governmental stance.




I've only watched two minutes of this so far, but it already makes me sick. It hopefully would seem that even if only that first two minutes was all that was true (and yes I've already googled the statistics, [URL="http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=6728"]thank you)[/URL]
it would be enough for any rational person to realize something is wrong with how this country operates.

 

[nangiggles]

see this is the kind of video that sums shit nicely, no need for 49 min vids

 

[musclemom]

Easy to be indignant when you have nobody with a disability living in your household. My stepdaughter has autism spectrum plus something else (waiting to schedule further testing, which will cost $2,000 and we have to pay out of pocket). She only qualified for food stamps. She makes $8.64/hr. and has zero benefits (her mother covers her health insurance). Husband & I collect $210 a month for rent. Her food stamp allotment is currently $16.87 a month.

I'm trying to get her on SSI so she has the framework of a lifetime support system (she is not capable of living on her own). She needs a social worker and would do better in group housing. However, she needs to be making less than $1000/mo. gross to even be considered for qualification. We're not actually interested in the cash (which is $1,000 a month). But I can't get this kid a caseworker if she's making over $999 a month, so she had to request a cut in hours. That's just fucked up. The type of help she needs isn't covered by health insurance and costs, on average, $45/hr. with a general training schedule of 20+ hr. a week.

Smothering her in her sleep is not an option.

Trust me, it's real easy to ride a high horse when your health and the health of those you love is good and you have a solid job. Old age and gravity catches up with all of us though, and accidents happen. You have a child that has disabilities or you become disabled yourself (I ate right, I exercised, I took supplements and I still have OA throughout my body and multiple tendon and ligament tears) and the idea of being tossed out with the trash and being told that "Tough shit, you're in pain, have limited mobility and can't reliably work, why should govt. help you?" is a burn (especially when you paid into the system for a decade or two). Begging for help is demoralizing but you do what you have to, and if you have a child who has problems that aren't diagnosed until they're older, what are you left to do? Obviously not reproducing is the best solution, but this isn't my kid and her mother has thrown her to the gutter. Should I let her live on the streets and become prey?

If someone in my family had the kind of mind Mitt Romney has we wouldn't be facing these issues, but none of us were born that smart. We're simple, blue collar people. The harsh reality is, if you are "lower middle class" and someone in your family has life challenges, you cannot pay for it without state or govt. assistance *shrug* Sorry the rest of you hate it, but I don't resent contributing for those whose lives are more fucked up than mine so why are those more blessed/gifted/successful than myself so pissed off about helping others who are stupid/unhealthy/old/unlucky?

 

[nangiggles]

Easy to be indignant when you have nobody with a disability living in your household. My stepdaughter has autism spectrum plus something else (waiting to schedule further testing, which will cost $2,000 and we have to pay out of pocket). She only qualified for food stamps. She makes $8.64/hr. and has zero benefits (her mother covers her health insurance). Husband & I collect $210 a month for rent. Her food stamp allotment is currently $16.87 a month.

I'm trying to get her on SSI so she has the framework of a lifetime support system (she is not capable of living on her own). She needs a social worker and would do better in group housing. However, she needs to be making less than $1000/mo. gross to even be considered for qualification. We're not actually interested in the cash (which is $1,000 a month). But I can't get this kid a caseworker if she's making over $999 a month, so she had to request a cut in hours. That's just fucked up. The type of help she needs isn't covered by health insurance and costs, on average, $45/hr. with a general training schedule of 20+ hr. a week.

Smothering her in her sleep is not an option.

Trust me, it's real easy to ride a high horse when your health and the health of those you love is good and you have a solid job. Old age and gravity catches up with all of us though, and accidents happen. You have a child that has disabilities or you become disabled yourself (I ate right, I exercised, I took supplements and I still have OA throughout my body and multiple tendon and ligament tears) and the idea of being tossed out with the trash and being told that "Tough shit, you're in pain, have limited mobility and can't reliably work, why should govt. help you?" is a burn (especially when you paid into the system for a decade or two). Begging for help is demoralizing but you do what you have to, and if you have a child who has problems that aren't diagnosed until they're older, what are you left to do? Obviously not reproducing is the best solution, but this isn't my kid and her mother has thrown her to the gutter. Should I let her live on the streets and become prey?

If someone in my family had the kind of mind Mitt Romney has we wouldn't be facing these issues, but none of us were born that smart. We're simple, blue collar people. The harsh reality is, if you are "lower middle class" and someone in your family has life challenges, you cannot pay for it without state or govt. assistance *shrug* Sorry the rest of you hate it, but I don't resent contributing for those whose lives are more fucked up than mine so why are those more blessed/gifted/successful than myself so pissed off about helping others who are stupid/unhealthy/old/unlucky?

Well see MM that's where things are messed up, because your step daughter DESERVES assistance and doesn't get it yet a bunch of leaches who don't deserve it do get it, the system is fucked up.

 

[smurf2]

I agree with nan

 

[-SD-]

Life is not fair

 

[nangiggles]

Life is not fair

Unfortunately this is true, life sucks and then u die

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[hanselthecaretaker]

Easy to be indignant when you have nobody with a disability living in your household. My stepdaughter has autism spectrum plus something else (waiting to schedule further testing, which will cost $2,000 and we have to pay out of pocket). She only qualified for food stamps. She makes $8.64/hr. and has zero benefits (her mother covers her health insurance). Husband & I collect $210 a month for rent. Her food stamp allotment is currently $16.87 a month.

I'm trying to get her on SSI so she has the framework of a lifetime support system (she is not capable of living on her own). She needs a social worker and would do better in group housing. However, she needs to be making less than $1000/mo. gross to even be considered for qualification. We're not actually interested in the cash (which is $1,000 a month). But I can't get this kid a caseworker if she's making over $999 a month, so she had to request a cut in hours. That's just fucked up. The type of help she needs isn't covered by health insurance and costs, on average, $45/hr. with a general training schedule of 20+ hr. a week.

Smothering her in her sleep is not an option.

Trust me, it's real easy to ride a high horse when your health and the health of those you love is good and you have a solid job. Old age and gravity catches up with all of us though, and accidents happen. You have a child that has disabilities or you become disabled yourself (I ate right, I exercised, I took supplements and I still have OA throughout my body and multiple tendon and ligament tears) and the idea of being tossed out with the trash and being told that "Tough shit, you're in pain, have limited mobility and can't reliably work, why should govt. help you?" is a burn (especially when you paid into the system for a decade or two). Begging for help is demoralizing but you do what you have to, and if you have a child who has problems that aren't diagnosed until they're older, what are you left to do? Obviously not reproducing is the best solution, but this isn't my kid and her mother has thrown her to the gutter. Should I let her live on the streets and become prey?

If someone in my family had the kind of mind Mitt Romney has we wouldn't be facing these issues, but none of us were born that smart. We're simple, blue collar people. The harsh reality is, if you are "lower middle class" and someone in your family has life challenges, you cannot pay for it without state or govt. assistance *shrug* Sorry the rest of you hate it, but I don't resent contributing for those whose lives are more fucked up than mine so why are those more blessed/gifted/successful than myself so pissed off about helping others who are stupid/unhealthy/old/unlucky?

So all of those percentages mentioned are legitimate cases like your stepdaughter's? There can't be that many disabled people out there in one country.

It's like nangig said, and I know firsthand the system is being abused by people in my town because I see and hear examples of it right in front of me sometimes, and its only getting worse. And sadly a lot of the stereotypes are true. How would you like it one day if your family could no longer get the assistance they needed because of this? The course we're on, it's only a matter of time.

 

[digimon7068]

So all of those percentages mentioned are legitimate cases like your stepdaughter's? There can't be that many disabled people out there in one country.

It's like nangig said, and I know firsthand the system is being abused by people in my town because I see and hear examples of it right in front of me sometimes, and its only getting worse. And sadly a lot of the stereotypes are true. How would you like it one day if your family could no longer get the assistance they needed because of this? The course we're on, it's only a matter of time.

that's the problem in a nutshell...mm's kid is now the exception and the rest of the hangers-on are the rule...the system was never meant to handle that many people because, statistically-speaking, there aren't that many disabled people out there.

but one need look no further than our education system, where every kid that wants one has an iep, to get a feel for how frigged up the system is.

 

[musclemom]

that's the problem in a nutshell...mm's kid is now the exception and the rest of the hangers-on are the rule...the system was never meant to handle that many people because, statistically-speaking, there aren't that many disabled people out there.

but one need look no further than our education system, where every kid that wants one has an iep, to get a feel for how frigged up the system is.

Yeah, IEPs, great fucking concept. "No child left behind!" Dumbest idea ever. A high school graduate who can't do math above a 4th grade level, manage a budget, get a job that will support her independently ...

Her mother was too stupid or too much in denial to push for the right help that might have diagnosed her younger and just went along with the school's recommendations. Maybe then she'd be in the system. Trying to get INTO that system when you're older is a bitch and a half at least it is if you're not a minority and childless and have relatives who have any income.

I guess in the mind of some people, if a person has a disability it's their family's responsibility to financially destroy themselves to take care of them. Truthfully, if we can't get this kid into the system that's what's going to happen. We can barely afford our old age without her -- with her, we are totally out of ideas. My husband and I have very little savings (stocks and bonds? Shit, we can't even afford to pay into his 401k never mind IRA, we live paycheck to paycheck), our house has no equity and to sell would be worth about what the remaining mortgage is, if we're lucky. My health is now too shitty to allow me to work (but not shitty enough to get on SSI) and my husband is less than six months from turning 59. Me killing myself keeps having this unarguable logical appeal. I've had my life insurance policy long enough that it would pay off if I did myself in. It would leave my husband and stepdaughter financially alright but I think it would probably break his heart and I'm not quite ready to die yet.

But you get hopeless enough, and being stressed, in pain, broke and afraid of the future is a damned hopeless state to be in 24/7, never waking up from a dreamless sleep starts becoming real attractive.