Not speaking for anyone else, but!!!!!!!!!

[Juice Authority]

Definitely agree with you on that one.Var is one of the single best compounds I have ever ran.A real blast.

Huck, don't you usually run Anavar with a baseline test?

 

[karson]

dude, never taken fina but var has changed the entire way i look. i went from a smooth blot test boy to more OF a mens health and fitness look. my size has even increased, just look waay better. not sayin its for eveyone, but my contribution to the board is that ive never seen anything like it.....it does seem to effect my kidneys and liver more than injections though, the only downside

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Karson-I kept nearly 100% of the gains I made.Lost just a tad bit of strength,but gained it back after a few weeks.

Oxman.The T-3 would work okay,but is not really necessary,oxandrolone will ramp up protein synthesis to a huge degree all on its own,and it is quite potent at helping you get leaner(if diet is in order)as well.

 

[Riker29]

I dont get this though.

Doesn't Var shut you down?

So, when you guys speak of these great Var-only cycles, are you just sort of "dealing" with the fact that your Unit won't function for a while?

I have never understood this.

 

[Malak]

I am interested in hearing more about this...Does it shut you down???

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

I had no problem with libido on it Riker,but that does not mean it's not possible for anyone.I think the fact that it has a very low androgenic profile and zero conversion to E makes it a little less harsh on endocrine function.

 

[ironmaster]

Here's a study you anavar fans should like:

(3) : J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1990 Oct;71(4):846-54
Testosterone and oxandrolone, a nonaromatizable androgen, specifically amplify the mass and rate of growth hormone (GH) secreted per burst without altering GH secretory burst duration or frequency or the GH half-life.
Ulloa-Aguirre A, Blizzard RM, Garcia-Rubi E, Rogol AD, Link K, Christie CM, Johnson ML, Veldhuis JD

 

[Malak]

How much can one expect to gain of 12 weeks at 40mgs...If you've done a couple stronger cycles??

 

[Austrian]

I am interested in hearing more about this...Does it shut you down???

"shutdown" is almost never 100%; maybe with 1g+ of test per week LH secretion will go down to nondetectable levels, but with the average cycle your testes will produce some testosterone throughout.
Only nandrolone is particularly harsh because it not only suppresses LH but also desensitizes the testes to LH.

i could not find a single study on ox's effects on adults but only on boys with growth deficiency. Ox did suppress LH at minuscule doses (as low as 2.5mg ed) but the suppression did not last the whole course; after a couple of months it rebounded even while still taking Ox. But keep in mind these boys already had a malfunctioning endocrine system.

But even with all the hoopla about Ox don't forget that is as liver toxic as any other 17aa roid. AIDS patients got problems with 20mg ed (they are running it for life without a break though)


Clin Endocrinol (Oxf) 1997 Feb;46(2):209-16

Effect of low dose oxandrolone and testosterone treatment on the pituitary-testicular and GH axes in boys with constitutional delay of growth and puberty.
Crowne EC, Wallace WH, Moore C, Mitchell R, Robertson WH, Holly JM, Shalet SM.
Department of Endocrinology, Christie Hospital Trust, Manchester, UK.
OBJECTIVE: To investigate the effect of low dose oxandrolone and testosterone on the pituitary-testicular and GH-IGF-I axes. DESIGN: Prospective double-blind placebo-controlled trial. PATIENTS: Sixteen boys with constitutional delay of growth and puberty (CDGP) with testicular volumes 4-6 ml were randomized to 3 months treatment: Group 1 (n = 5), daily placebo: Group 2 (n = 5), 2.5 mg oxandrolone daily or Group 3 (n = 6), 50 mg testosterone monthly intramuscular injections with assessment (growth, pubertal development and overnight hormone profiles) at 0, 3, 6 and 12 months. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: LH and GH profiles (15-minute samples) were analysed by peak detection (Pulsar), Fourier transformation and autocorrelation. Testosterone levels were measured hourly and insulin, SHBG, IGF-I, and IGFBP-3 levels at 0800 h. Statistical analysis was by multivariate analysis of variance for repeated measures. RESULTS: LH and testosterone parameters increased significantly with time in all 16 (LH AUC, P < 0.001; peak amplitude, P = 0.02; number of peaks, P = 0.02; testosterone AUC, P = 0.02; morning testosterone, P = 0.002). In Group 2, however, LH and testosterone parameters decreased at 3 months followed by a rebound increase at 6 and 12 months. SHBG levels were markedly reduced at 3 months (P = 0.006) and a wider range of dominant GH frequencies was present although GH AUC was not increased until 6 months, with an increase in GH pulse frequency but not amplitude. IGF-I levels were increased at both 3 and 12 months. In Group 3, pituitary-testicular suppression was not apparent, but GH levels increased with an increase in GH amplitude at 3 and 12 months. CONCLUSION: Oxandrolone transiently suppressed the pituitary-testicular axis and altered GH pulsatility. Testosterone increased GH via amplitude modulation.

 

[Malak]

Wow! Great post bro...Karma