Not growing any ideas

[Peteyboy]

male 27 years old 6 foot tall 194lb (88kg) at 10% bodyfat

5 weeks into course put on 4kg so far (11 week course)

500mg test e
150mg oxytest
150mg tren
500mg dbol (about every 4 hours 70mg per day)

my strength is going up, i don't really have any bloatiness, eating 3500-4000kcal per day.

started bulk after 5 week diet, training 4-5 days per week. 35-50 minute sessions one muscle group, using a one set to max failure system. (doms is good)

any ideas of why the weights not going on?

 

[needtogetaas]

what is the exact cal brake down of all the food you eat everyday???? how many grams of carbs/fats/protein do you eat each day in grams.

If you do not know the exact number then there is your problem.

 

[moya]

eat more real food... 3500 calories is weak imo...

 

[Peteyboy]

6am shake with water
7am breakfast porridge and protein shake with milk
9.30am tuna mayo noodles
12.00 beef burger salad and jacket potato
2.00pm pre workout mass shake with creatine, glutamine
3.00pm post workout 2 scoops protein isolate, 50g glucose, creatine, glutamine
4.30pm chicken mayo salad large brown roll
7.30pm chicken rice vegetables stir fry
9.00pm protein shake half milk half water
10.30pm casein shake

approximately 3600kcal protein-340 Carbs-480 Fats-35

i do add in about 5 omega 3 capsules per day with meals

 

[2DIEZEL]

I could never gain weight while running tren. Ill shed the fat right off me and gain some lean muscle but it doesint show on the scale, that why i never use tren in a bulker.

 

[Powerlifting57]

6am shake with water
7am breakfast porridge and protein shake with milk
9.30am tuna mayo noodles
12.00 beef burger salad and jacket potato
2.00pm pre workout mass shake with creatine, glutamine
3.00pm post workout 2 scoops protein isolate, 50g glucose, creatine, glutamine
4.30pm chicken mayo salad large brown roll
7.30pm chicken rice vegetables stir fry
9.00pm protein shake half milk half water
10.30pm casein shake

approximately 3600kcal protein-340 Carbs-480 Fats-35

i do add in about 5 omega 3 capsules per day with meals

All your issues lie with in the bold letters, add in more REAL food!!!!!

I take one maybe 2 shakes a day, upon waking up and right after my workout.

 

[ConanX]

I would say that with most of the meals you are having protein shakes, still have the shakes but have food AS WELL.

You gotta eat if you want to GET BIG. I eat around those same cals (different prot/carb/fat breakdown and cleaner) when I cut bro!

 

[Powerlifting57]

Add in some all natural peanutbutter....



Sorry i LOVE peanutbutter

 

[ConanX]

Since I still got time before I hit my bulk, I can fantasize about it here!

Eat more steak, sweet potatos, fish (like salmon), tons of whole eggs, whole milk. Have shakes in between or along with your meals. Make sure you get simple carbs in post-workout for the insulin spike.

 

[Peteyboy]

thanks for your input
i will make some changes, add in more food, less shakes.

increase good fat intake, should start to hit 4000kcal per day, hope that will kick start things

 

[eClenbuterol]

6am shake with water
7am breakfast porridge and protein shake with milk
9.30am tuna mayo noodles
12.00 beef burger salad and jacket potato
2.00pm pre workout mass shake with creatine, glutamine
3.00pm post workout 2 scoops protein isolate, 50g glucose, creatine, glutamine
4.30pm chicken mayo salad large brown roll
7.30pm chicken rice vegetables stir fry
9.00pm protein shake half milk half water
10.30pm casein shake

approximately 3600kcal protein-340 Carbs-480 Fats-35

i do add in about 5 omega 3 capsules per day with meals

You need about weight x 20 , as your bulking BMR , so you'll need to up your caloric intake and your protein intake.

 

[RADAR]

You need about weight x 20 , as your bulking BMR , so you'll need to up your caloric intake and your protein intake.

Exactly!



Do the opposite in calculating your BMR
you need 2 grams of protein (not the cheap crap) for every pound of bodyweight!

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/tips-loosing-weight-655233.html


RADAR

 

[needtogetaas]

thanks for your input
i will make some changes, add in more food, less shakes.

increase good fat intake, should start to hit 4000kcal per day, hope that will kick start things

just take the shakes you are using and add to them.
oats,anpb and if you are feeling daring some heavy cream in place of milk... You will gain some weight doing that or my name ain't needto.