Normally I'm anti-death penalty but this is pushin it...

[Mandinka2]

This is something that just boggles my mind. If you have kids and can't deal with them then just give them THE FUCK UP.

What the fuck is the matter with people? Yea, condoms are waaaaay easier but it isn't like this is the third world people. GET A FUCKING ABORTION AND SPARE THAT CHILD THE TORTURE.

BOTH PARENTS SHOULD BE SHOT IN THE HEAD.

Why should he be shot in the head? It appears as if he wasn't present. You appear to be judging him prematurely. Perhaps he is dead!

 

[Bikini Mod]

If he was dead then I guess I did speak harshly. My bad.

However, I assumed the man was present. If he was merely a sperm donor then he should be shot for carelessly spreading his seed.

IT TAKES TWO TO MAKE A BABY.

Men can not bitch and moan about how "their parental rights are violated" if a woman chooses NOT to give birth to their child from one side of their mouths then feel as though they have no responsibility for the after effects of a roll in the sack with the other side of their mouths.

Either men HAVE RESPONSIBILITY or THEY DO NOT. Can't have it both ways.

As far as I am concerned (maybe my views are unpopular, however, this is my opinion and until medical science finds a way around THE FACT THAT THE FEMALE CARRIES AND GIVES BIRTH TO A CHILD... I am entitled to it) NO MALE SHOULD HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY TO A CHILD.

I tell my girls when the occasion calls though they will only have one daddy, they can have a thousand fathers - BUT ONLY ONE MOTHER. And as there mother they owe me NOTHING - but because I brought them here - I OWE THEM EVERYTHING.

The female has the power to carry and give life so she should ALWAYS CHOOSE WISELY WHOM SHE LAYS DOWN WITH.

I did not make the worst, nor the best choice either for who fathered my girls. For this I will eternally suffer. But it is MY JOB to try and make up for his failures. A job that I gladly accept and will do so until breath leaves my body.

 

[Bulldog_10]

You know what the worst part is? A friend of mine was recently arrested for selling weed to a friend...his bail was more than $10000...and they're making him out to look like a huge fucking threat to society.

 

[Mandinka2]

If he was dead then I guess I did speak harshly. My bad.
However, I assumed the man was present. If he was merely a sperm donor then he should be shot for carelessly spreading his seed.

It appears that the man was not present or otherwise he would surely have been taken into custody....

Originally posted by bikinimom
IT TAKES TWO TO MAKE A BABY.Men can not bitch and moan about how "their parental rights are violated" if a woman chooses NOT to give birth to their child from one side of their mouths then feel as though they have no responsibility for the after effects of a roll in the sack with the other side of their mouths.

I don't think they do moan and bitch out of both sides , however they (rightfully) question a situation whereby should the mother choose to birth the child (a choice where they have no right to influence in the laws eyes) they are forced to make provision for the child whilst at the same time the mother may choose to kill their child , wherein they also have no recourse. With equal responsibility should come equal power , should it not?

Originally posted by bikinimom
Either men HAVE RESPONSIBILITY or THEY DO NOT. Can't have it both ways.

They do not have equal choice in the childs future or welfare so why should they be forced to BEAR that?

Originally posted by bikinimom
As far as I am concerned (maybe my views are unpopular, however, this is my opinion and until medical science finds a way around THE FACT THAT THE FEMALE CARRIES AND GIVES BIRTH TO A CHILD... I am entitled to it) NO MALE SHOULD HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY TO A CHILD.

So they carry the child for a period of 9 months normally , how much is that worth? Enough to give someone absolute power over the life and death of another? Apparently so in your view.

Originally posted by bikinimom
I tell my girls when the occasion calls though they will only have one daddy, they can have a thousand fathers - BUT ONLY ONE MOTHER. And as there mother they owe me NOTHING - but because I brought them here - I OWE THEM EVERYTHING.

You are being illogical BKM , one Daddy , 1000 fathers , one mother? So you owe them everything but yet you are willing to leave them in the care of someone who you feel (previous paragraph) should have no responsibility to them.

Originally posted by bikinimom
The female has the power to carry and give life so she should ALWAYS CHOOSE WISELY WHOM SHE LAYS DOWN WITH.

I did not make the worst, nor the best choice either for who fathered my girls. For this I will eternally suffer. But it is MY JOB to try and make up for his failures. A job that I gladly accept and will do so until breath leaves my body.

You make no reference to your own failures BKM. The story I posted up concerned a mother who stuffed her baby into a washer , it makes no reference to the father but yet you would condemn him to death regardless of circumstance it seems. Take a look again at your post , do you really think that you have thought through these extreme views? You are close to a pivotal moment in your life (hopefully a fresh start of sorts) and yet you still cling to your prejudices. Should every mother who has found herself in the unfortunate circumstances of having an abusive husband "lie in her bed"? That is exactly what you are saying , an extraordinary hypocrasy IMHO.

 

[Bikini Mod]

NOPE - you are taking what I said totally out of context and you know it.

A female MUST bear more responsibility than the man. Biology dictates this NOT ME. So, if a female makes an unwise choice and allows a man who is less than worthy to sire her children then she will suffer the consequences one way or another. THIS IS A FACT. One that no woman can escape from.... not even me.

And YES, I DO MAKE EVERY REFERENCE TO MY FAILURES. I CHOSE OF MY OWN FREE WILL TO MARRY AND PROCREATE WITH A MAN WHO WHILE HE IS NO MONSTER, IS LESS THAN DESERVING OF THE AMAZING CHILDREN WITH WHICH HE WAS BLESSED. BECAUSE OF THE FUCKED UP LEGAL SYSTEM IN MY COUNTRY (one that I will be only too happy to discuss off the boards) I MADE THE BEST CHOICES THAT I COULD WITH MY GIVEN SITUATION. Anyone can judge, yet until they have walked a mile in my shoes - sorry, they can keep their judgment and put it where the sun don't shine.

At the end of my days I will have only four judges. Of this fact I am well aware. The rest is of little consequence to me.

I relinquished custody of my children because I believed it was the best choice FOR THEM. If everything happens the way I will work for it to, then they will be with me again very soon. That is my only goal in life - to set up a better life for me and my children.

I can not and will not take them from their father. I only need one phone call or letter/email from my children stating they want to live with me. It will be then that I will move heaven and earth to make that happen. My girls are old enough to intelligently express to a court of law whom they want to live with. If they want to continue to reside with their father and only visit with me, then that will be fine with me. If they are happy, then I am happy.

BUT NO PARENT CAN "KEEP A CHILD" WITH THEM IF THAT IS NOT WHERE THEY WANT TO BE.

I can't do that anymore than my ex can.

Children are not doggies nor are they property. If they do NOT want to reside with one parent and the other wants them more than life itself - guess where they will live? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.

I am the one who waited 13 months just to conceive the first. I am the one that took care of them BY MYSELF 99% of the time for the first 9 years of their lives. I am the one that has NEVER kept them from their father. I am the one that gladly yielded them to end a 2 1/2 year nightmare with NO END IN SIGHT.

When the sun sets I have zero difficulty sleeping. I have no regrets nor do I make any excuses.

 

[Baoh]

If he was dead then I guess I did speak harshly. My bad.

However, I assumed the man was present. If he was merely a sperm donor then he should be shot for carelessly spreading his seed.

IT TAKES TWO TO MAKE A BABY.

Men can not bitch and moan about how "their parental rights are violated" if a woman chooses NOT to give birth to their child from one side of their mouths then feel as though they have no responsibility for the after effects of a roll in the sack with the other side of their mouths.

Either men HAVE RESPONSIBILITY or THEY DO NOT. Can't have it both ways.

As far as I am concerned (maybe my views are unpopular, however, this is my opinion and until medical science finds a way around THE FACT THAT THE FEMALE CARRIES AND GIVES BIRTH TO A CHILD... I am entitled to it) NO MALE SHOULD HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY TO A CHILD.

I tell my girls when the occasion calls though they will only have one daddy, they can have a thousand fathers - BUT ONLY ONE MOTHER. And as there mother they owe me NOTHING - but because I brought them here - I OWE THEM EVERYTHING.

The female has the power to carry and give life so she should ALWAYS CHOOSE WISELY WHOM SHE LAYS DOWN WITH.

I did not make the worst, nor the best choice either for who fathered my girls. For this I will eternally suffer. But it is MY JOB to try and make up for his failures. A job that I gladly accept and will do so until breath leaves my body.

You don't know the father's situation, yet you say this. That is the height of ignorance.

 

[Frackal]

This thread turned stupid fast

 

[Bikini Mod]

This thread turned stupid fast

I agree.

Silly me, assuming the child had TWO parents.

 

[supergeneticfreak]

women continue to do things of this nature becasue they get away with it. how many cases of mothers throwing their newborn children into dumpsters, or sufacating them. what happens they get 2 years probation. on the other hand a guy loses his temper, shakes a child, not killing it but giving it developemental disorders, and he gets 3 life sentances. women killing their children is something that we will see alot of untill the government takes it seriously as a crime...freak

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

You all should have seen the "Footage" Neighbors, "She aint that kind of momma she is a good momma she would never do anything like that! It's all lies I don't believe it!" At the same time the poor kid was in the ER trying to "Make It" alive from her great mother!

By the way Pomona=Shit hole! Sad but true!