Normal Test Level 619 ng.dL?

[time4akshun]

Hi,

Just wanted to update you guys on the restoration of my natural test levels.

I was the victim of bad planning a few years ago during 1 year of marathon cycling of Deca, Primo and Winny. I didn't know enough at the time about Nolva and Clomid and suffered test related problems when I came off my gear.

I tested the following in August of 2001:

Total Testosterone: 109 ng/dL

I went recently after not using for 1 1/2 years (Except Anavar and Creatine) and tested as follows:

Total Testosterone: 619 ng/dL

Wanted to know how normal I seem to be since I am well within range of NORMAL test (241-827 ng/dL) now that I have been off for some time.

I am a 29 year old male with pretty good genetics but am dealing cosmetically with the effect of some fatty gyno and love handle/lower ab fat which I am going into surgery for. My gains seem to be good again even off gear.

Is 619 ng/dL a good testosterone level on or off gear?

Thanks for any responses. Been bodybuilding for 14 years but still learning about anabolic enhancement and hope to get it right next time around.

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[time4akshun]

Bump for answers...

Gil

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Yes,that level is very good!You can see that normal levels(on average)top out at 827 nanograms per deciliter,so you're past the mid-range level for the average male.Quite an acceptable level.

 

[time4akshun]

Thanks for the reassurance that I am back to normal Huck!

What times of levels would you typically see ON gear? Would they ever go past 827 nanograms? Would 629 ever be seen on gear?

Just wondering if I have decent natural test since I always had good gains even off juice.

Thanks everyone.

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[Keep it beefy]

yes, you would see much higher than 629 on cycle. you'd probably see in the range of 3000-6000 ng/dl oncycle, for 500-1000 mg/week cycles of test.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

that reading is wuite good for someone your age...

 

[time4akshun]

Excellent answers. Thanks so much guys.

And to the newbies...do you self a favor and get pre and post blood tests!!! They are covered by insurance and can simply be part fo a physical when you see your doc. Don't use gear blind. Get the facts pre and posts for best gains!!!

And don't forget Clomid at the minimum after and Nolvadex if you are using high dosages during!!!

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[Nelson Montana]

Dude, I'm willing to bet your supression had nothing to do with not using Clomid. It was probably due to the time you were on . (A one year marathon!?) And Deca's the worst. Don't think you can do that again and just use CLomid and everything will be cool.

Congrats on the high T level. I'm tempted to say you should get great gains without gear, if your SHBG is in check.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Dude, I'm willing to bet your supression had nothing to do with not using Clomid.

ease up clomid hater



though agree on the Deca issue

 

[time4akshun]

By one year marathon I meant. 2-3 months on 2 months off but probably 3-4 cycles for the year. I understand 2 is the magic number to minimize risk.

I learned way too late that Deca is terrible. Surpresses test way too long and takes to long to restore. I was inching up from Primo and Winny and though Deca was a natural next step.

Will never use it again. Anavar provided similar gains without test problems when I used this past year.

Thanks for the kudos on the natural test. Am gaining quite nicely now on Creatine only. At about 14% bodyfat and 241 pds of mass. I'm 6' 4".

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