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[girmarcus]

All medicines have side effects. But many people don't feel the side effects, or they are able to deal with them. Anyone can feel side effects from a medicine, but there is no way to know for sure if a medicine will cause side effects for you. It may depend on how much of the medicine you take, how old you are, how much you weigh, whether you are male or female, and what other health problems you may have. Older adults are more likely to have side effects than younger adults.
You may notice side effects when you start to take a medicine, change the dose, or stop using the medicine. A medicine you've often taken without getting side effects may suddenly cause side effects. Or side effects may stop. Straight from Web MD
I’ve been reading these forums for months and really don’t understand the scare tactics with side effects. Gear is like medicine, supplements, and herbals. There is always a chance for sides affects, however over 99% of people do not get them.
Some:
Have the genetics to fight off side affects
Are very healthy and their bodies can absorbs some of the noticeable affects
Take the recommended dose
Are just lucky.
In regards to Gear, start out small and stay small unless you are benching 400lbs, squatting 500lbs, and dead lifting 600lbs. Most of the people on these forums are here because they don’t’ know and are beginners. Others think they are experts and professional want-a-bees.
Stories: On another forum this guy had a picture of himself with looked like he was about 160lbs and 5’8” and everyone was listing to this fool as if he was Ronnie Coleman talking to them about gear. I guess he just read a lot and tried to share his learned knowledge because gear was not working for him!!!
I was working out with five guys a few years ago. We were all on gear and just starting out and all about the same size and build. We were just on deca and taking 400mg per week. Three of us gain about 30lbs in 9 weeks, one guy gained nothing, however was stronger, and the third had the worse acne and side effects that I can remember to date. And note, deca is one of the more gentle forms of gear. Why did this happen? Easy, every one of us was different genetically and our bodies reacted differently to this foreign substance. The guy which had all the really bad side effects took another cycle on Sus 250 and gained 40lbs in 9 weeks with no side effects. Hence why there are some many different types of gear out there. So do your research.
A friend of mine is against gear and takes creatine. No lie he has probably gained 30lbs of lean muscle on creatine, whey and just eating well.
Remember weight lifting is 80% mental and 20% physical. So when you are on gear it’s just the same. You must have the most intense workout that you can thing of when you are on gear.
As for myself, I only take Trenbolone Acetate with HCG and have never had any sides what so ever. Why? Because I make my own Tren and know what I’m putting in my body. And Tren is one of the most powerful anabolics to date. Probably in the Top Five!! I’m 225lbs and 5’11”.

 

[Bigpimpin10]

thank you father. for stating the obvious lol.

 

[girmarcus]

Well so many people ask, just trying to help the obvious!!!!

 

[SouthernLord]

Ok.......

Nice intro to board.....

So which one am I???? The professional or expert wanna be?

 

[cuts82]

Promote straight to elite mod????? lol

 

[girmarcus]

HHAHAH, haven't lifted with you LOL I'm not expert and ues to be a expert wanna be until I started working out right and using correctly. I just hate all the BS, you can tell who is or has used very quickly and the one's that haven't should never never give their opinion unless they are a dr!!!!!! Sorry got a lot of anger from my last forum....it must be a side effect = anger LOL

 

[*The_West*]

this guy is my new hero

 

[girmarcus]

So what do you guys think of Tren? Ever tried to make it? I tell you what, this stuff is the golden gem, tried so much stuff in the last couple of years and found my baby which isn't even made for humans, I must have the genetics of cow LOL

 

[*The_West*]

So what do you guys think of Tren? Ever tried to make it? I tell you what, this stuff is the golden gem, tried so much stuff in the last couple of years and found my baby which isn't even made for humans, I must have the genetics of cow LOL

never used tren myself. maybe one day, i just dont see the need to use something so powerful just yet. im interested to know though, have you ever experienced any problems running tren by itself? im talking sexual dysfunction, prog side effects?

 

[girmarcus]

Yes, at about three weeks, you lost all will for sex, and had to run HCG which my sex drive came back in a few days, now that was my first experience, now I just run it from my first dose to two weeks after my last injection. Got to be carefull, too much HCG will make your nipples a little soft LOL, so I do every 3-4 days with a week off in the middle of 10 weeks cycle. And yes I run tren with nothing else, you will here use it with test, and that only for bulk but tren is three times stronger then test so I never understood why someone would do that.

 

[RADAR]

never used tren myself. maybe one day, i just dont see the need to use something so powerful just yet. im interested to know though, have you ever experienced any problems running tren by itself? im talking sexual dysfunction, prog side effects?

If He Hasn't Them mark my word his day will come.

RADAR

 

[*The_West*]

fair enough. you get too much regurgitated info on forums, its nice to see something a little out of the ordinary that someone has learnt works for them through personal experience.
yes, tren is more androgenic and anabolic than test, but i see no reason why you couldn't run a low dose of prop alongside it, not just for sexual function, but to really milk the cycle for all its worth. but then again, you have found what works for you, so as i said, fair play.

 

[girmarcus]

I've been trying to find a legal version of HCG, I know everyone asks that but it just really takes a long time to get use to 9 shots a week for just one set of gear. I'm trying something my next cycle of tren from anabolic extreme that is a very mild PCT but I'm going to use the hell out it to see if works even a little

 

[*The_West*]

If He Hasn't Them mark my word his day will come.

RADAR

"errrr, help, my pee pee's not working!"

 

[girmarcus]

Yes a little test will do a lot however with test comes clomid. For some reason clomid makes me a little sick to my stomach when I work out. I've heard others having this problem with clomid? I hate taking a lot of gear so I think that's why I love tren so much. So much bang for your buck, easy to make, and yes I will probably have some side efffects with higher doses, around 100mg ed, but that will all be my bad LOL

 

[*The_West*]

why does test come with clomid? it is poor for oestrogen control, and (i know some old faithfuls will argue this) also not hugely effective for pct either.

 

[girmarcus]

I made 40ml x 100mg for less then 140 you cant' beat that!!! My workout partner does it with sus 250 and he gets crazy results, I'm just a baby with that needle, never get use to it LOL

 

[girmarcus]

Clomid will gradually raise testosterone levels over its period of intake and is usually used with test, test gradually slows test production in the body so that's why test users like it, tren will just shut test production down so thats why HCG is used, because it quickly brings levels back up I guess it really depends on your body and test prop is a soft test so at small doses there would probably be no need for it.

 

[*The_West*]

Clomid will gradually raise testosterone levels over its period of intake and is usually used with test, test gradually slows test production in the body so that's why test users like it, tren will just shut test production down so thats why HCG is used, because it quickly brings levels back up I guess it really depends on your body and test prop is a soft test so at small doses there would probably be no need for it.

clomid is an outdated pct drug. as it seems you have found out, using hcg is a far more effective method of kickstarting endogenous test production with less side effects, whether using test, tren, or any anabolics, for that matter.
what do you mean by saying that test p is a "soft test" i have never heard that before?

 

[girmarcus]

What's funny, on another topic, I just started taking BCAA, beta-alanine, etc don't ask, just never thought the stuff worked. I must say I am a born again when it comes to Amino Acids

 

[girmarcus]

Meaning that the test prop is not as hard on the system. YOu can take very small doses and see results unlike cypionate, and suspension. I've used them all and prop just seem to me less of a problem for me. Cypionate, well you can take a shiit load of the stuff before you see any real results, I've heard guys taking 800-1000mg with no side affects and only gaining a few lbs of muscle mass, at which time you lose 90% of that LOL

 

[girmarcus]

Never messed with Enanthate however never really heard anything good about it besides you have to shoot ups a few times a week, look at it's profile and not impressed

 

[*The_West*]

I've heard guys taking 800-1000mg with no side affects and only gaining a few lbs of muscle mass, at which time you lose 90% of that LOL

for anyone to be on a gram of test a week, only gain a few lbs and then lose 90% of it, either they haven't slept in 4 years and only eat mcdonalds, or their gear is fake.

 

[girmarcus]

Can you put up a short video on this forum? I got my video of me hitting 400lb bench for the first time. I know lame but for some reason it took me soo long. Was all mental, I could rep 315 for 13 but when I tried 4 plates it just fell to my chest. Damn TREN did nothing for me!!!!!!! LOL

 

[girmarcus]

Ya was some guys talking test down in my last forum, I use to love test, but my off cycle periods were so freaking depressing that it just wasnt' worth it anymore. But I don't down test and might add it one day to my tren cycle, once I get some ballls

 

[girmarcus]

So what are you on or like or sware by!!!!

 

[10001110101]

Clomid will gradually raise testosterone levels over its period of intake and is usually used with test, test gradually slows test production in the body so that's why test users like it, tren will just shut test production down so thats why HCG is used, because it quickly brings levels back up I guess it really depends on your body and test prop is a soft test so at small doses there would probably be no need for it.

there's a lot of misinformation here.

both hcg and clomid raise test levels but in two different ways.

HCG directly stimulates the testicles to produce testosterone.

Clomid blocks estrogen from suppressing the pituitary so the pituitary sends stronger signals to the testicles to produce more testosterone, and this ONLY WORKS if you aren't on any gear. if you're on gear it will tell teh pituitary to stop telling the testicles to produce testosterone regardless of whether or not you're taking clomid.

HCG should be run throughout cycle to keep the balls producing testosterone so they don't get "lazy" and have to "warm back up" after the cycle is over.

if you run HCG you only need any basic non-androgenic anti-e to suppress estrogen so the pituitary will send stronger signals to the testicles (which aren't atrophied because you used HCG throughout your cycle) and your natural normal testosterone production should resume in a few weeks/months