Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below
napsgear
genezapharmateuticals
domestic-supply
puritysourcelabs
UGL OZ
UGFREAK
napsgeargenezapharmateuticals domestic-supplypuritysourcelabsUGL OZUGFREAK

NO2 fucking works!!

WalkingBeast

Elite Dementor
Platinum
I will definately be picking up another bottle! The first week it seemed like bullshit. The 2nd week I thought my strength increases were just coincidence. But by the end of the month, I had smashed over 15-20 PR's easy Im guessing. My flat bench had been stuck at 315 for 4.5 reps for over a year!! Within a few weeks I hit an easy 7 with 315! I also ended up repping 335 for 3.75, just short of 4 reps, when one rep was my best. Also 325 for 5 when 2 was my best. Then on incline 315x6 when 3 was my best. 335 x 2.75, almost 3 when one was my best. An easy 355 also, and 275x11 when 10 was my best. Also, went from a 465 deadlift to a 510 deadlift!!! Not to mention alot more PR's. In one month. The only variable I changed was taking the NO2. I was already taking one scoop of Cell-Tech on and off, and I havent even been eating as much!! I also hit a record weight of 193 on an empty stomach, from 186-187. A little cell-tech with 8 daily caps of NO2 is doing me real good. Im definately getting more!!
 
Why don't you buy 150g AKG for $20 and see if it gives you the same results at 1/3 the price?

Nice results though...You're one of the FEW that has had results on NO2
 
sawastea said:
Why don't you buy 150g AKG for $20 and see if it gives you the same results at 1/3 the price?

Nice results though...You're one of the FEW that has had results on NO2

ThanX!! AKG? Whats that and where can I get it?
 
Taking NOX3 right now. Like the pumps in the gym. Not really getting much stronger. What brand of NO are you taking WB?
 
Country Boy said:
Taking NOX3 right now. Like the pumps in the gym. Not really getting much stronger. What brand of NO are you taking WB?

Hey CB. Havent heard of NOX3. Im taking NO2 by MRI. Ive gotten the opposite effect. Havent gotten the pumps, but have gotten ALOT stronger, and denser too I believe. I can be expensive. Retails for 80$. I got it for 55$. Even without the discount I would have bought it if I knew my strength and weight gain would be this good. Hope that helps
 
Ya i tried 2 bottles of NO2 by MRI... I noticed some pumps... and strength didn't do up drastic.. I aslo found the price at $55... I would like to try that 150 g of AKG. sawastea where can u get it??
Also I did gain about 10 - 15 lbs like nothing tho... so maybe it did work better than imagined???

let me kno how much better that stuff if working a few weeks to a month from now Beast!

-Sweed
 
Sweed said:
Ya i tried 2 bottles of NO2 by MRI... I noticed some pumps... and strength didn't do up drastic.. I aslo found the price at $55... I would like to try that 150 g of AKG. sawastea where can u get it??
Also I did gain about 10 - 15 lbs like nothing tho... so maybe it did work better than imagined???

let me kno how much better that stuff if working a few weeks to a month from now Beast!

-Sweed

ThanX Sweed!! I will definately post the results a month from now. Ive already been on it for a month. Have to get some more.
ThanX for the feedback!
 
AKG = alpha-Ketoglutarate...Arginine

All the supplement, NO2, really is the amino acid arginine. Get some NOW Arginine 120 caps at 1000mg, at around $11.00 a bottle. Take about 10g per day and chase it with OJ. The OJ will adjust your stomach's PH and the sugar, from the OJ, will raise your insulin levels which in turn, will increase your arginine intake...
 
sawastea said:
AKG = alpha-Ketoglutarate...Arginine

All the supplement, NO2, really is the amino acid arginine. Get some NOW Arginine 120 caps at 1000mg, at around $11.00 a bottle. Take about 10g per day and chase it with OJ. The OJ will adjust your stomach's PH and the sugar, from the OJ, will raise your insulin levels which in turn, will increase your arginine intake...

is this good on keto??
 
sawastea said:
AKG = alpha-Ketoglutarate...Arginine

All the supplement, NO2, really is the amino acid arginine. Get some NOW Arginine 120 caps at 1000mg, at around $11.00 a bottle. Take about 10g per day and chase it with OJ. The OJ will adjust your stomach's PH and the sugar, from the OJ, will raise your insulin levels which in turn, will increase your arginine intake...

i thought fructose had little effect on insulin levels.
 
hey thanks a lot for the info sawastea.. I would like to get a botttle of that.. ill check for it right now!
 
hey sawastea... can u find the NOW arginine caps anywhere? My 2 online stores dont have it in capsule form
 
ThanX Sawastea!! I think Ill try that. Right now Im so fucking paranoid my strength and weight is going to drop if I ditch the No2, that Im just going to get another bottle. If my strength doesnt increase considerably with this next bottle, I was thinking of trying "Test 1" from VPX. If my strength and weight increase Ill probabally stay on it until I plateau.
 
TraxZBT said:


i thought fructose had little effect on insulin levels.

Based on the GI, you are correct. This was the way I was taught and it seemed to work VERY well. Maybe there is a synergistic formula between the perservatives of the OJ and the arginine (?)

It's trial and error. I used the OJ as a delivery system
 
WalkingBeast said:
I will definately be picking up another bottle! The first week it seemed like bullshit. The 2nd week I thought my strength increases were just coincidence. But by the end of the month, I had smashed over 15-20 PR's easy Im guessing. My flat bench had been stuck at 315 for 4.5 reps for over a year!! Within a few weeks I hit an easy 7 with 315! I also ended up repping 335 for 3.75, just short of 4 reps, when one rep was my best. Also 325 for 5 when 2 was my best. Then on incline 315x6 when 3 was my best. 335 x 2.75, almost 3 when one was my best. An easy 355 also, and 275x11 when 10 was my best. Also, went from a 465 deadlift to a 510 deadlift!!! Not to mention alot more PR's. In one month. The only variable I changed was taking the NO2. I was already taking one scoop of Cell-Tech on and off, and I havent even been eating as much!! I also hit a record weight of 193 on an empty stomach, from 186-187. A little cell-tech with 8 daily caps of NO2 is doing me real good. Im definately getting more!!

How much is you daily intake and when do you take it?
 
I took No2 for a couple months about 8 months ago, didn't do anything for me. Not saying it doesn't work though..just that it didn't do anything for ME. I haven't taken anything since then though and I'm looking around for something now.
 
Umm, NO2 - overpriced and overhyped...want a pump and cell volumization?! Try: arginine, taurine, glycerol stack - cheap and effective, and you could augment it very nicely with other compounds...
 
If it works for you good,everyone different.I havent been on even creatine in over 3 years,(strength and build been damn good without anything but vitamins and protien powder)wanted to see how far i could get totally clean,but ordered V12 by San 2 days ago,got "pump factor shit"in it,cant wait,maybe try Syngex 1 or 2 by VPX in spring.Dont want AAS till i feel i REALLY need 'em.
 
Oh yea,looked into similar product called "Nitrix",supposed to be better/stronger then NO2,check it out on any sup. sight.
 
WalkingBeast said:
I will definately be picking up another bottle! The first week it seemed like bullshit. The 2nd week I thought my strength increases were just coincidence. But by the end of the month, I had smashed over 15-20 PR's easy Im guessing. My flat bench had been stuck at 315 for 4.5 reps for over a year!! Within a few weeks I hit an easy 7 with 315! I also ended up repping 335 for 3.75, just short of 4 reps, when one rep was my best. Also 325 for 5 when 2 was my best. Then on incline 315x6 when 3 was my best. 335 x 2.75, almost 3 when one was my best. An easy 355 also, and 275x11 when 10 was my best. Also, went from a 465 deadlift to a 510 deadlift!!! Not to mention alot more PR's. In one month. The only variable I changed was taking the NO2. I was already taking one scoop of Cell-Tech on and off, and I havent even been eating as much!! I also hit a record weight of 193 on an empty stomach, from 186-187. A little cell-tech with 8 daily caps of NO2 is doing me real good. Im definately getting more!!

Fuck! I hate swedish regulations, NO2 is nowhere to be found on the swedish market, its easier for me to get hold of gear.
 
Bigmodean said:
Oh yea,looked into similar product called "Nitrix",supposed to be better/stronger then NO2,check it out on any sup. sight.

Ya should ask around to see if ne one has used it, and/or compared the two ,NO2 and Nitrix, i see the ads in the mags ,i still think im gonna buy a big bucket of arginine and check it out, 502 servings for $20, that sounds pretty good
 
There is a big difference between NO2 and the other products. No2 has Physer 3 which is the only time release of it's kind. If GNC could make a copy cat product cheaper they would. They can't. Regular L Arginine even the fancy AKG version only has a nalf life of a few seconds. Physer 3 keeps it there for 8 hours. I sell a few hundred bottles of it a month and I can tell you what makes the difference. First of all taking it on a completely empty stomach. 2nd don't cut the pills in half. You destroy Physer 3. And 3rd take every day and take a third dose if you weight over 220. GNC does returns on empty bottles if someone isn't happy. For every 100 bottles I sell maybe 1 gets returned. Now does it work better than anabolics? No. But it sure beats the other crap out there with no side effects. I know a guy that only takes No2 and he gained 25 pounds in 3 months and has kept it. His bench went up to 375 and his 40 time dropped to 4.27 seconds. It works.
 
2ncourage said:
There is a big difference between NO2 and the other products. No2 has Physer 3 which is the only time release of it's kind. If GNC could make a copy cat product cheaper they would. They can't. Regular L Arginine even the fancy AKG version only has a nalf life of a few seconds. Physer 3 keeps it there for 8 hours. I sell a few hundred bottles of it a month and I can tell you what makes the difference. First of all taking it on a completely empty stomach. 2nd don't cut the pills in half. You destroy Physer 3. And 3rd take every day and take a third dose if you weight over 220. GNC does returns on empty bottles if someone isn't happy. For every 100 bottles I sell maybe 1 gets returned. Now does it work better than anabolics? No. But it sure beats the other crap out there with no side effects. I know a guy that only takes No2 and he gained 25 pounds in 3 months and has kept it. His bench went up to 375 and his 40 time dropped to 4.27 seconds. It works.

Nice :bday:
 
2ncourage said:
There is a big difference between NO2 and the other products. No2 has Physer 3 which is the only time release of it's kind. If GNC could make a copy cat product cheaper they would. They can't. Regular L Arginine even the fancy AKG version only has a nalf life of a few seconds. Physer 3 keeps it there for 8 hours. I sell a few hundred bottles of it a month and I can tell you what makes the difference. First of all taking it on a completely empty stomach. 2nd don't cut the pills in half. You destroy Physer 3. And 3rd take every day and take a third dose if you weight over 220. GNC does returns on empty bottles if someone isn't happy. For every 100 bottles I sell maybe 1 gets returned. Now does it work better than anabolics? No. But it sure beats the other crap out there with no side effects. I know a guy that only takes No2 and he gained 25 pounds in 3 months and has kept it. His bench went up to 375 and his 40 time dropped to 4.27 seconds. It works.


I have a hard time believing you sell this stuff.
 
well I promise you I do. Over a 100 bottles a month. I won't drop names but lots of professional football players in denver buy it. The dallas cowboys use it. etc.

But as I said it doesn't compare to gear and performance athletes have different desires than bodybuilders. So I'm not hyping NO2 for 99% of the guys on this board. I only say that if someone doesn't want to use gear or can't for some reason NO2 is one of the best over the counter supplements.

Not for women though. Gives a horrible stomach pooch.
Also if you use caffeine or ephedra or any other kind of fat burnr with NO2 it won't work at all.

Hope that helps.
 
I took NO2 for a month, it did zero for me. No pumps, no strength gain, nothing. It may work for others, just my experience.
 
2ncourage said:
well I promise you I do. Over a 100 bottles a month. I won't drop names but lots of professional football players in denver buy it. The dallas cowboys use it. etc.

But as I said it doesn't compare to gear and performance athletes have different desires than bodybuilders. So I'm not hyping NO2 for 99% of the guys on this board. I only say that if someone doesn't want to use gear or can't for some reason NO2 is one of the best over the counter supplements.

Not for women though. Gives a horrible stomach pooch.
Also if you use caffeine or ephedra or any other kind of fat burnr with NO2 it won't work at all.

Hope that helps.

I take 3-5 "Speed Stack"s per week and still works real well for me. Thats only 3 days a week though.
 
the No2 def works but its not worth it almost 100$ a bottle. I can spend that on a month worth of protein creatine and weightgain. Its good for a pump and to get past platues or too get started. I was on it for a month went from 165 to 180 than figured i can do this the hard way and keep it all. Once you stop taking it you will still keep the pump. My arms go up a whole inch during my workout. (i've been off of it for like 4 months)
 
Dude you can get this stuff for about 55 bucks like walkingbeast said. $100 a bottle? NOWHERE you will find it at that.
 
thefren said:
Dude you can get this stuff for about 55 bucks like walkingbeast said. $100 a bottle? NOWHERE you will find it at that.

Yes $100 is a rip off. Id update this thread with my progress on the NO2 but Ive basically been out of the gym for 3 weeks cuz of a back injury. Hope to get back next week.
 
hey ive used NO2 MRI great pumps, i could literally feel my skin streatch to the max , it was almost pain full pumps, i couldnt even flex cuz of the fullness and it lasted for about 3 hours b 4 it would slowly taper off , but i got nothin strenght wise from it , energy is good too , and libido spike was nice also.
Ive also tried pinnicle NOX2 pumps were at about 70 percent that of MRI product but the pump dropped quicker. too pricey
 
What's the name of the MRI NO2 product? Also I'm trying to decide between getting NITRIX and NO2 by pinnacle. I can get that both for 34 dollars for 180 caps. Anyone have a preference between the two?
 
raestacio said:
What's the name of the MRI NO2 product? Also I'm trying to decide between getting NITRIX and NO2 by pinnacle. I can get that both for 34 dollars for 180 caps. Anyone have a preference between the two?

Its simply called "NO2". I believe its the original. From what I hear NO2 by MRI is the most effective because of its time release. Stays in your system longer. I havent tried the others, but Id definately reccomend the one by MRI. Worked incredible for me. First week I didnt notice anything. Second week my bench went up by one rep. By the end of the month my bench press when from 315x4 to 315x7. I was stuck at 315x4 for a year! It seems to give you a fuller denser look also. The main thing for me was the strength increases. If you check the first page of this thread youll see what I mean. Hope that helps
 
For sure it gives you strength increases, my bench went up, dumbell curls, everything. And it does give you better skin tone and denser look. I don't know why people have bashed this product. It is a little more expensive than what you'd usually pay for any other supplement but I throughly enjoyed it.
 
I used NOX2 and got good pumps, then used NITRIX...good pumps as well and f-ing hard on's like a 16 yr old boy all the time...it actually concerned me, because it was happening all the time...very viagra like for somebody that honestly doesn't really need that...

The key is having it in you all the time...that is why NO2 works so good for some people...time release....If you look at NITRIX it suggests 3 tabs (4 if you are over 200lbs) 3 times a day....I don't know....like 2ncourage explained taking on an empty stomach is also another big factor...especially when I took the NOX2 on an empty stomach in the morning...wow, I would get the sickest muscle pumps...but otherwise I can't say if NOX2 was really that good....the results seemed short termed for me on both....I didn't weigh myself or anything, just going by the way I felt.

honestly, I personally would choose V12 by San over any NO2 product....twice a day (1 of those times before hitting the gym), I love that stuff...

also, there is some literature out there regarding the negativites of taking NO2 products on the body...haven't had the time to search for these things, but have seen posts on this subject on many message boards lately.....
 
Juve hit the nail right on the head!

Taurine is well known to increase NO2 levels. Arginine does as well.

Take 2-4g of Arg before a workout and it works for about 2 hours.
 
obiwan9962 said:


is this good on keto??

It needs a lot of carbs to keep the "pumps" it talks about, but claims to have all the other effects without a high carb diet.... never tried it w/o carbs myself though
 
Hmmmmm can we say advertise?? I use to work in GNC and I took 2 BOTTLES of this stuff, which I didnt paid for thank god!! all I can say this stuff sucks!! no gains, no pumps or nothing. My friend took it too same results. And common those gains are very common using pro hormones or gear, but NO2 give me a break dude!!!. I know what works 1 test, gear, why protein, and some creatine for some that rest is just a waste of money!!
 
It doesnt work for everybody , but for many it has.. same goes for creatine.. ever since i have taken it i have had more viens poping out than ever before.. and who is advertising?

has anyone here tried the nox2 brand by pinnicle.
 
There is a thick black hair sticking out of one of my Nitrix pills. I think I'm going to be sick. N02 does work for me, but this bottle is going right into the garbage can.
 
Just finished a bottle, noticed lite muscle gain, lite strength gain, nothing to write home about, did notice alot of facial muscle tone though, and skin improvement, a few midday stiffy's thats about it....still debating weather or not to buy another bottle......hmmmm i think not.
 
WalkingBeast said:
Worked for me. Thats it

I haven touched A.A.S for almost 2 years. I had been reading a lot about NO2 and my partner was taking it so io decided to try it.Along with r-ala and moderate carbs(very moderate meaning im in ketosis).

I have gone from 260-272,i have lost
much b/f and im vascular like a mofo. not to mention the insane pumps i get.

So no bullshitting the stuff does work but its a little pricy.

Nitrix doesnt compare to NO2 for some reason, i took both and still take NO2


I ordered Thermorexin, anyone gettin good results?
 
therookie said:
I haven touched A.A.S for almost 2 years. I had been reading a lot about NO2 and my partner was taking it so io decided to try it.Along with r-ala and moderate carbs(very moderate meaning im in ketosis).

I have gone from 260-272,i have lost
much b/f and im vascular like a mofo. not to mention the insane pumps i get.

So no bullshitting the stuff does work but its a little pricy.

Nitrix doesnt compare to NO2 for some reason, i took both and still take NO2


I ordered Thermorexin, anyone gettin good results?

Yes, thats the one Im talking about. The original by MRI, Im not sure about the others since I havent given them much of a try. Im taking NP2 by IDS right now, since I got it dirt cheap, but havent been taking enough to notice a difference, also I havent been training heavy compound movements. Thats where it made the most difference for me. Though I saw a significant increase in tricep strength. Mostly strength gains like I said, blew past about 20 or more personal bests in a month. My BW didnt increase much, though I did hit a record 193 on a pretty empty stomache, and I wasnt even eating that much. Ill definately be staying on this stuff for a while.
 
What about No2 by Pinnacle? Ive heard good things but i was lead to belive that the patented *Physer3* release system is why MRI's NO2 is tops. Is Pinnacle Comprable to MRI? Also was looking at the "German" something or other, and heard good things about it also???, has anyone tried these others? Itwould be nice if the Pinnacle was just as effective as the MRI, being that its about $35 cheaper, and you need only take 3caps 2wice a day....Thanks in advance!
 
Yea i also saw The NoX2 By Pinnacle in my Nutrition Express Mag....35 bux for 180 caps...anyone tried it? i was thinkin of giving it a try?

oh also SAN v12 - Creatine/Nitric Oxide mix 37 bux...opinions comments???
 
StrongBad said:
There is a thick black hair sticking out of one of my Nitrix pills. I think I'm going to be sick. N02 does work for me, but this bottle is going right into the garbage can.


haha
 
JeSt3r said:
Yea i also saw The NoX2 By Pinnacle in my Nutrition Express Mag....35 bux for 180 caps...anyone tried it? i was thinkin of giving it a try?

oh also SAN v12 - Creatine/Nitric Oxide mix 37 bux...opinions comments???

IMHO MRI makes the best quality, NOX2 is second and Nitrix is last.....

You can get MRI online for around 50-55 here, its the lowest i think on the net unless someone knows better.

http://www.easypricematch.com/store/viewitem.asp?idproduct=34197
 
I would not suggest taking N02 if anyone is a competitive athelete. I'm a top college swimmer, and tried nitrix to boost my endurance. Unfortunately NO2 is responsible for a lot more than just dialating blood vessels. Before my races I became extremely anxious. My palms started sweating, my mouth became dry and my muscles tightened. These effects were obviously very dibilitating to my performance. After stopping the NO2 for a week I'm back to normal and pre-race anxiety is back to a normal helpful level.
 
Never heard that b4??? sounds like just plain anxiety too me! nothing a xanax couldent cure....I cant see how what u decribed can be attributed by NO2.
 
I like it too but to me it works best taking it in cycles....i use a brand called Nitro AKG i found for 1/2 the price of all the others

z
 
AlphamaleStS said:
Never heard that b4??? sounds like just plain anxiety too me! nothing a xanax couldent cure....I cant see how what u decribed can be attributed by NO2.

well first of all, I've been swimming competitively for 15 years and plain and simple the amount of anxiety I experienced before my races while taking N02 was at least twice as much as I've ever experienced before. A week after I stopped taking it, my pre-race anxiety levels were back to normal. Looking at the warning label will help substantiate my claims. On the Nitrix bottle there are listed dozens of conditions under which nitrix should not be taken. The warning states Nitrix should not be taken if you have a history of psychiatrict dissorders. I personally do not, but if the company had to put this on the warning label there is obviously a possiblity that the product can have an effect on ones psyche, whether it be anxiety, depression, or any other psychological conditions.
 
raestacio said:
well first of all, I've been swimming competitively for 15 years and plain and simple the amount of anxiety I experienced before my races while taking N02 was at least twice as much as I've ever experienced before. A week after I stopped taking it, my pre-race anxiety levels were back to normal. Looking at the warning label will help substantiate my claims. On the Nitrix bottle there are listed dozens of conditions under which nitrix should not be taken. The warning states Nitrix should not be taken if you have a history of psychiatrict dissorders. I personally do not, but if the company had to put this on the warning label there is obviously a possiblity that the product can have an effect on ones psyche, whether it be anxiety, depression, or any other psychological conditions.

My anxiety levels are so high anyway, its hard to tell. :rainbow: I didnt notice anything though. I also dont do endurance events and perform in front of a crowd which is very different. I get very anxious however before a heavy compound lift. Heart beating crazily, heavy breathing, in a pre-panic like state, adrenaline pulsing through the vains but thats been real useful for lifting the heavy weights, for me. I didnt notice these feelings intensify with the No2, but also I am doing a different type of training. Im sure its not for everyone.
 
Ive have/had a history of anxiety, and never noticed a thing while on NO2, also never seen this warning on the lable of my NO2 by MRI, In fact in only warns of pregnant or nursing women, high blood pressure, if your being treated for erectile dysfuntion??, cold sores, warns against people allergic to corn products?, or citris fruits, and states that ephedra products will reduce the effectivness of NO2....Thats all, Nothing AT ALL, about PHYCIATRIC DISORDERS??? Your sure its NO2 your taking/reading, and not LSD??? the funny thing is now that you said it ill probably start getting anxiety now when i take it and think about this post! even though i think its ridiculous....Thanks
 
raestacio said:
I would not suggest taking N02 if anyone is a competitive athelete. I'm a top college swimmer, and tried nitrix to boost my endurance. Unfortunately NO2 is responsible for a lot more than just dialating blood vessels. Before my races I became extremely anxious. My palms started sweating, my mouth became dry and my muscles tightened. These effects were obviously very dibilitating to my performance. After stopping the NO2 for a week I'm back to normal and pre-race anxiety is back to a normal helpful level.

I dont see how that is possible, its not a stimulant? It has been used for a long time by doctors to help a patients ability to respond to large dosages of medication in the past.
 
Sorry for the 2 posts guys peoples.

I have had a history of anxiety and was on zoloft for 3 years. I get anxiety from the slightest bit too much coffee. If anything No2 makes me feel good because im hard a s a rock from morning till night.....Thats just my $.03

Good luck
 
raestacio said:
I would not suggest taking N02 if anyone is a competitive athelete. I'm a top college swimmer, and tried nitrix to boost my endurance. Unfortunately NO2 is responsible for a lot more than just dialating blood vessels. Before my races I became extremely anxious. My palms started sweating, my mouth became dry and my muscles tightened. These effects were obviously very dibilitating to my performance. After stopping the NO2 for a week I'm back to normal and pre-race anxiety is back to a normal helpful level.
I've seen the warning on the label about cautioning people who have psychiatric illnesses if taking NOX2 by Pinnacle.

The mechanism of action is that a vasodilator causes decreased blood pressure, which can cause anxiety just the same as can elevated blood pressure.

This has also known to occur with drugs that have vasodilative properties like Viagara and Minoxidil.

Cheers...B32
 
Thanks for the insite blewsw32. I knew I was not just imagining it. And the warning I was referring to is on the Nitrix bottle.
 
Anyone get sick more often while on NO2? I tried the Nitrix NO2 for the first time back in mid January, but was only on it for a week before I got a bad stomach virus. I couldn't eat or workout so I stopped taking the NO2. I started back a couple of weeks later, but again one week into it I got sick. This time I had a respiratory infection and could not lift weights or do cardio for about 3 weeks. I started back on the NO2 again last week and now have some type of sinus infection or unusually severe allergies. I got bad stomach cramps taking the NO2 along with the prescription allergy medication (zrtec) yesterday. So now I'm off it again. I may try one more time this summer, when I'm completely off the allergy medicine.
Anyone else have a similar experience?
 
ive taken no2 for a long time and never got sick, it was prolly cause it was a stomach virus which is pretty hard to avoid(i remember in january this year so many people got one), if your immune system is good it wont be able to fight back, its a virus, theres no cure for it. dude its most likely cause you
arent getting enough vitamins or arent eating healthily.its just you. maybe your allergic to it? which could be why you got allergies
 
I think the biggest difference between NO2 products is the grade of AAKG they use. You can get a 1:1 ratio or a 2:1 ratio. The 2:1 ratio is the one that works. 1:1 has more glutarate which waters it down. NO2, NOX2, Now Foods, they all use the 2:1 ratio. Check out Nitrox which uses a liquid gel (this one definately works the best!) or Now Foods AAKG it 3500mg/3 tabs. Also a hell of a lot cheaper than NO2.
 
2ncourage said:
Also if you use caffeine or ephedra or any other kind of fat burnr with NO2 it won't work at all.

Hope that helps.

i read in the gnc book on No2 that thermogenics like ephedra wored against no2 but I thought that was just the pump, how does caffeinee inhibit no2? I've been taking an no2 rip off for four nmonths and the last couple weeks have been taking over 600 mg of caffeine a day. haven't noticed any diff from the caffeine at all.
 
WalkingBeast said:
Hey CB. Havent heard of NOX3. Im taking NO2 by MRI. Ive gotten the opposite effect. Havent gotten the pumps, but have gotten ALOT stronger, and denser too I believe. I can be expensive. Retails for 80$. I got it for 55$. Even without the discount I would have bought it if I knew my strength and weight gain would be this good. Hope that helps

There are several substances that are "believed" to increase protein synthesis, decreased protein catabolism, enhanced insulin secretion and increased amino acid uptake

A-AKG (arginine alpha-ketoglutarate)
A-KIC (arginine ketol-ocaproate)
OKG (ornithine alpha-ketoglutarate)
GKG (glutamine alpha-ketoglutarate)

Unfortuneately the only site saying this are the supplement companies :-)
The scientific sites don't explicitly say the above
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=1804465

So what product were you on WalkingBeast? I've personally tried IDS NPP and Universal Nox3. Didn't think either did anything.
 
gjohnson5 said:
There are several substances that are "believed" to increase protein synthesis, decreased protein catabolism, enhanced insulin secretion and increased amino acid uptake

A-AKG (arginine alpha-ketoglutarate)
A-KIC (arginine ketol-ocaproate)
OKG (ornithine alpha-ketoglutarate)
GKG (glutamine alpha-ketoglutarate)

Unfortuneately the only site saying this are the supplement companies :-)
The scientific sites don't explicitly say the above
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=1804465

So what product were you on WalkingBeast? I've personally tried IDS NPP and Universal Nox3. Didn't think either did anything.

I dont know about the protein synthesis. The main reason I got it was for the pump and strength claims. Also the blood vessel dialation claim. Supposed to increase nutrient uptake and protein. The only thing I noticed was a dramatic strength increase. I looked denser too. Thats about it. The NO2 by MRI was the one I got results on. It was great for the reasons I mentioned. Didnt do everything it claimed. The strength increase is what sold me, as I mentioned. I just finished a bottle of Nitrix by BSN and it didnt seem to do very much for me. Maybe gave me some extra muscle endurance. Thats about it. Seems a waste. The NPP by IDS I also tried. Did a bottle of that also. My doses werent real consistant on that though. I did 8 pills a day of both Nitrix and NO2 by MRI. The MRI one is the only that seemed to really work. Im going to switch back to that one again.
 
WalkingBeast said:
I dont know about the protein synthesis. The main reason I got it was for the pump and strength claims. Also the blood vessel dialation claim. Supposed to increase nutrient uptake and protein. The only thing I noticed was a dramatic strength increase. I looked denser too. Thats about it. The NO2 by MRI was the one I got results on. It was great for the reasons I mentioned. Didnt do everything it claimed. The strength increase is what sold me, as I mentioned. I just finished a bottle of Nitrix by BSN and it didnt seem to do very much for me. Maybe gave me some extra muscle endurance. Thats about it. Seems a waste. The NPP by IDS I also tried. Did a bottle of that also. My doses werent real consistant on that though. I did 8 pills a day of both Nitrix and NO2 by MRI. The MRI one is the only that seemed to really work. Im going to switch back to that one again.

In simple terms when protein synthesis is greater then protein breakdown , you get bigger muscles... protein synthesis = size and strength
If you wanna hit 405 on the bench and get 20+ inch arms , learn all you can about increasing protein synthesis. It's not good enough to take a protein shake...
 
gjohnson5 said:
In simple terms when protein synthesis is greater then protein breakdown , you get bigger muscles... protein synthesis = size and strength
If you wanna hit 405 on the bench and get 20+ inch arms , learn all you can about increasing protein synthesis. It's not good enough to take a protein shake...


I understand protein synthesis, just not so sure the NO2 does anything to increase that. Thats what I meant. 405 is right around the corner brother!! Aslong as I dont have too many more setbacks. It should go down soon. 20" arms will take some more time naturally, and by that time my bench may be more like 450-500+, but its hard to say. 19" arms cold are the next short term goal. Once I get to 19 I can atleast pump them up to 20", but 20" cold will take some more time. Hopefully in the next few years. Unless I go on some type of AAS or real good supplement, then it might be much sooner. I assure you, I take in more then a protein shake. :FRlol: :FRlol: Keep KILLING that shit brother!!
 
WalkingBeast said:
ThanX!! AKG? Whats that and where can I get it?
AAKG is arginine alpha keto glutarate, the main ingredient in no2. and it worked great for me...i had pumps all day and all night around the clock.
 
WalkingBeast said:
I take 8 caps a day. 4 when I wake on an empty stomache, and the other 4 whenever I can get them in.
are you over 200lbs ? try 12 a day...damn... i was 140 when taking NO2 (the only brand that seemed to really work) and was taking around 10 a day...good shit. i might go back on it when done with current regimine.
 
therookie said:
I dont see how that is possible, its not a stimulant? It has been used for a long time by doctors to help a patients ability to respond to large dosages of medication in the past.
It could be possible if he were taking NO-Explode, I get a rush off of this comparable to the E/c/a stack.
 
LVTitan said:
are you over 200lbs ? try 12 a day...damn... i was 140 when taking NO2 (the only brand that seemed to really work) and was taking around 10 a day...good shit. i might go back on it when done with current regimine.


I just hit 200lbs today haha. Its the M1T though Im sure. The Nitrix doesnt seem to be doing shit for me. Ill be back on the NO2 (MRI brand). 12 caps a day would be too expensive for me to keep up with. Need a supplement to last me a month! haha I just picked up some more M1T cheap off the internet. So Ill go back on that again after I finish this 20 something low dose M1T cycle. Ill wait atleast a month before going back on.
 
gjohnson5 said:
Have yall tried the update to AAKG? This product from legal gear is supposed to be twice as effective. AAKG at 2:1

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/legal/no2.html

I may give that a try. Saw it on the site recently. Isnt it the same ingredients as the other brands but without the "time release"?
 
OMEGA said:


Hey brother. Sorry I didnt get back to your PM sooner. The only NO2 product that I got any noticeable results from is the NO2 by MRI in the white bottle. The original. Nitrix by BSN, NP2 by IDS and even NO-XPLODE by BSN didnt give me any kind of noticeable results. The NO-Xplode was great as an energy drink, but thats about it. The NO2 by MRI is the one that did everything I mentioned on the first page. Mainly strength increases. Some weight increase too. Made me look a little denser and fuller, but not all day pumps like it claimed.
 
WalkingBeast said:
Hey brother. Sorry I didnt get back to your PM sooner. The only NO2 product that I got any noticeable results from is the NO2 by MRI in the white bottle. The original. Nitrix by BSN, NP2 by IDS and even NO-XPLODE by BSN didnt give me any kind of noticeable results. The NO-Xplode was great as an energy drink, but thats about it. The NO2 by MRI is the one that did everything I mentioned on the first page. Mainly strength increases. Some weight increase too. Made me look a little denser and fuller, but not all day pumps like it claimed.

I ordered some of the nighttime diarginine malate from Legal Gear. AAKG is outdated as there is a new chemical that supposedly works 2:1. If anafit would come out with something I wouldn't have to experiment :-)
 
gjohnson5 said:
I ordered some of the nighttime diarginine malate from Legal Gear. AAKG is outdated as there is a new chemical that supposedly works 2:1. If anafit would come out with something I wouldn't have to experiment :-)


Nice! Let me know how it works out for you! Id like to try the powedered stuff. Much cheaper. KILL THAT SHIT!!
 
gjohnson5 said:
I ordered some of the nighttime diarginine malate from Legal Gear. AAKG is outdated as there is a new chemical that supposedly works 2:1. If anafit would come out with something I wouldn't have to experiment :-)

citrum malate?

or however its spelled
i like just buying bulk AAKG
i just felt that i had more blood flow, ready to hit the weights

supposedly combining the two is supposed to be pretty good
 
d3track said:
citrum malate?

or however its spelled
i like just buying bulk AAKG
i just felt that i had more blood flow, ready to hit the weights

supposedly combining the two is supposed to be pretty good

Yeah you read my creatine ethyl ester thread. I was going to combine that with this nighttime formula for legal gear
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/legal/pm.html

The name of the chemical is diarginine malate. It's basically more experimenting like I am doing with the vpx cex (creatine ethyl ester)
Vpx cex already has an NO2 component in it called creatine alpha-ketoglutarate which does work. So this should increase the NO2 signifigantly taking it 3 times a day. I also like the serving sizes. Cex is 3grams and this is 1 tablespoon. Much better then 8 pills a day with the AAKG I think
 
Last edited:
therobber said:
anybody stack no2 with creatine?

I seem to be somewhat successful in cutting while using vpx cex (creatine ethyl ester) and diarginine malate (no2)

Let me explain more thouroughly. Creatine ethyl ester hci is supposed to give you muscles a boost without the bloat of regular creatine. vpx cex has an no2 componenet called creatine ketogularate. The new no2 chemical is called diarginine malate. Legal Gear has a product called coldfusion that's an no2 chemical. It tastes bad in my opinion. Anyway, I've been using diet pills + cardio + a deit with carbs mostly cut out in order to drop 20 pounds (still 240). I've taken the idea from the peanut butter diet and used good fats to increase the calories and to supply some energy just so I don't go into srarvation. I have been able to do this and not lose very little in terms of pressing strength in the gym. My stamina is down though. So if you were on a bulking cycle or whatever you'd probably see improvements in the gym.
 
Last edited:
I took MRI's NO2, 2 caps a day 3 times a day on an empty stomach, and did it religiously for a month. There was definately some extra pump the first week or so.. but that was really the only noticable gain I saw. I have heard of others getting very nice gains from it... so I guess it depends on the person. Personally I would not spend alot of money on it again, but if I found some really cheap I might throw down a few caps a day and see if small amounts helped over a longer period.
 
I'm using MBI's Nitric Oxide. I've had great results from it. They use a "2:1" ratio that's suppose to better saturate the muscle cells. Anyways I've gained 10lbs and my strength is up. You really feel it after 3-4 days.
 
From: http://www.health-strategy.com/cont...ils.php/id/1238


Health Strategy Consulting Interviews

Another Opinion
November 18, 2004

The press release that was issued by MRI, announcing the results of its studies on NO2® at Baylor University, is emblematic of the selective reporting of sponsored research that often embodies “science by press release” campaigns orchestrated by dietary supplement companies. Several points merit consideration:

1. The results of the studies were in fact presented in large part at the first annual meeting of the International Society of Sports Nutrition, in Las Vegas this past June, published as conference abstracts in the inaugural issue of Sports Nutrition Review Journal (www.sportsnutritionsociety.org)

2. The studies FAILED to show NO2 to be superior to placebo in relation to key outcomes that had been aggressively marketed as benefits a user would enjoy from the product: muscle mass gain, weight (total body mass) gain, fat loss, and self-assessed muscle pump, muscle hardness, and sexual function/performance/desire. Additionally, eight other muscular performance assessments (including muscular endurance and peak aerobic capacity) were performed where again NO2 did no better than placebo. No mention of the product’s “failure” in these consumer-relevant areas/marketing “buttons” was made in the release, and likely will also be excluded from any advertisements describing the results of the studies

3. Duplicitously, the “About NO2®” section makes the statement “NO2 induces vasodilation and creates dramatic increases in lean muscle mass...”, two claims that were not borne out by the Baylor studies. Additionally, the NO2 website still states “Creates dramatic increases in muscle size and strength” and “Generates virtual permanent muscle pump” [emphasis added]

4. The study that compared (single dose) extended-released (ER) vs. non-extended-released [sic] compositions indeed did reveal a limited difference from a pharmacokinetic perspective but one could argue with equal authority that the non-extended-released composition may also exert similar, selective enhancements of muscular performance. Because the study that examined the chronic dosing (8 weeks) with NO2 was compared against an inert placebo, the research made no attempt to quantify the efficacy of the rapid release composition relative to the ER. Had the rapid release composition been the comparator (instead of inert placebo) and displayed similar, limited efficacy, this would have likely further undermined the marketshare of NO2, as its US patent application is limited to claims centered upon controlled (extended) release compositions of NO2’s active ingredient

5. The self-aggrandizing statements of setting a “benchmark” and throwing “down the gauntlet” come after NO2 has been in distribution within GNC stores for almost two years, with nothing but testimonials, seminars, advertisements, and promotions to support “efficacy” until this study had been completed

6. The dose employed in the study—12 g of the supplement/day for 8 weeks—is 1.2-1.5 times that recommended on the label (based on body weight). Using the Suggested Retail Price, this would equate to greater than $200/eight weeks, a cost that seems prohibitive given the limited, single study positive results observed

7. The release makes the statement that Ed Byrd introduced creatine in 1993. Ed Byrd was my co-founder partner at EAS, where we co-introduced creatine in 1993 after I introduced to him the September 1992 Clinical Science research article describing the effects of oral creatine monohydrate supplementation. At EAS our credo was to present and publish all of the data that we obtained from the numerous university clinical studies that we sponsored. It is a deceptive disservice to the consumer to omit relevant findings from this first proof of concept study and creates yet another sizable target for both regulatory agencies and impassioned journalists/critics of the dietary supplement industry.

Anthony L. Almada, BSc, MSc

President and CSO
IMAGINutrition, Inc.
 
thanks bud
i was trying to decipher everything posted here and kept getting lost
lol
sawastea said:
From: http://www.health-strategy.com/cont...ils.php/id/1238


Health Strategy Consulting Interviews

Another Opinion
November 18, 2004

The press release that was issued by MRI, announcing the results of its studies on NO2® at Baylor University, is emblematic of the selective reporting of sponsored research that often embodies “science by press release” campaigns orchestrated by dietary supplement companies. Several points merit consideration:

1. The results of the studies were in fact presented in large part at the first annual meeting of the International Society of Sports Nutrition, in Las Vegas this past June, published as conference abstracts in the inaugural issue of Sports Nutrition Review Journal (www.sportsnutritionsociety.org)

2. The studies FAILED to show NO2 to be superior to placebo in relation to key outcomes that had been aggressively marketed as benefits a user would enjoy from the product: muscle mass gain, weight (total body mass) gain, fat loss, and self-assessed muscle pump, muscle hardness, and sexual function/performance/desire. Additionally, eight other muscular performance assessments (including muscular endurance and peak aerobic capacity) were performed where again NO2 did no better than placebo. No mention of the product’s “failure” in these consumer-relevant areas/marketing “buttons” was made in the release, and likely will also be excluded from any advertisements describing the results of the studies

3. Duplicitously, the “About NO2®” section makes the statement “NO2 induces vasodilation and creates dramatic increases in lean muscle mass...”, two claims that were not borne out by the Baylor studies. Additionally, the NO2 website still states “Creates dramatic increases in muscle size and strength” and “Generates virtual permanent muscle pump” [emphasis added]

4. The study that compared (single dose) extended-released (ER) vs. non-extended-released [sic] compositions indeed did reveal a limited difference from a pharmacokinetic perspective but one could argue with equal authority that the non-extended-released composition may also exert similar, selective enhancements of muscular performance. Because the study that examined the chronic dosing (8 weeks) with NO2 was compared against an inert placebo, the research made no attempt to quantify the efficacy of the rapid release composition relative to the ER. Had the rapid release composition been the comparator (instead of inert placebo) and displayed similar, limited efficacy, this would have likely further undermined the marketshare of NO2, as its US patent application is limited to claims centered upon controlled (extended) release compositions of NO2’s active ingredient

5. The self-aggrandizing statements of setting a “benchmark” and throwing “down the gauntlet” come after NO2 has been in distribution within GNC stores for almost two years, with nothing but testimonials, seminars, advertisements, and promotions to support “efficacy” until this study had been completed

6. The dose employed in the study—12 g of the supplement/day for 8 weeks—is 1.2-1.5 times that recommended on the label (based on body weight). Using the Suggested Retail Price, this would equate to greater than $200/eight weeks, a cost that seems prohibitive given the limited, single study positive results observed

7. The release makes the statement that Ed Byrd introduced creatine in 1993. Ed Byrd was my co-founder partner at EAS, where we co-introduced creatine in 1993 after I introduced to him the September 1992 Clinical Science research article describing the effects of oral creatine monohydrate supplementation. At EAS our credo was to present and publish all of the data that we obtained from the numerous university clinical studies that we sponsored. It is a deceptive disservice to the consumer to omit relevant findings from this first proof of concept study and creates yet another sizable target for both regulatory agencies and impassioned journalists/critics of the dietary supplement industry.

Anthony L. Almada, BSc, MSc

President and CSO
IMAGINutrition, Inc.
 
NO2

is liek glutamine

on paper it may not be too hot

yet the Anedecdotal Eveindence is too powerfull to ignore


for some they just work like no other......

and there is nothing science can do to interfere with that
 
Top Bottom