no wonder iraqis hate us

[Ffactor]

I cannot confirm nor deny that but did they do so before the war or after the war. I am by NO means a bleeding heart liberal but I cannot justify people dying for OIL under ANY circumstances! Now Saudi Arabia is a totally different issue.
Why?
1. The terrorists responsible for 9/11 were mostly Saudi.
2. Funding for those attacks came from Saudi Arabia.
3. They are funding the spread of a very fundamentalist sect of Islam across the globe.
4. THEY ATTACKED US!! IT WAS AN ACT OF WAR!!

 

[dballer]

I cannot confirm nor deny that but did they do so before the war or after the war. I am by NO means a bleeding heart liberal but I cannot justify people dying for OIL under ANY circumstances! Now Saudi Arabia is a totally different issue.
Why?
1. The terrorists responsible for 9/11 were mostly Saudi.
2. Funding for those attacks came from Saudi Arabia.
3. They are funding the spread of a very fundamentalist sect of Islam across the globe.
4. THEY ATTACKED US!! IT WAS AN ACT OF WAR!!

Have you asked yourself why these attacks were carried out?

 

[Ffactor]

Yes but it is difficult to do that when your country is attacked. New York is like a second home to me. I have family in Brooklyn Heights. I go there every month and every time I have to face it's permanently altered skyline, so I cannot in any way justify the attacks!

 

[dballer]

Yes but it is difficult to do that when your country is attacked. New York is like a second home to me. I have family in Brooklyn Heights. I go there every month and every time I have to face it's permanently altered skyline, so I cannot in any way justify the attacks!

of course I am not asking you to justify the attacks.. in NO WAY.. but you should at least know why they attack.. since our trusty news media has not really brought it to light.

 

[Prometheus]

Let's try to separate politics from patriotism, just becuase I don't agree with the government and media does not mean I am not patriotic.

Very true. Questioning the US and debating its policies in an effort to improve them is patriotic in the true sense.

Naturally, "patriotism" is defined by politicians as mindless flagwaving and unquestioning sacrifice when they say so - problem is that what the politicians want is not necessarily what is best for America.

Loving your country and striving to improve it aren't always consistent with obeying politicians.

 

[alien amp pharm]

of course I am not asking you to justify the attacks.. in NO WAY.. but you should at least know why they attack.. since our trusty news media has not really brought it to light.

enlighten us......why?

 

[dballer]

enlighten us......why?

I tell you what... if I tell you.. I am pushing my views down your throat. So go check it out for yourself. It is not a big secret in London media.. you should be able to find it easily. But if I was to post somthing on it.. I could be misleading you. I do not want that.

 

[alien amp pharm]

Okay. Although I am not usually one to get upset or angry over another's views (because even if I disagree, the arguments never has a winner) but if you were to express why, there'll be no flaming from me. I respect what you say/think.

 

[manny78]

Do you really think your lives will change after the US invade Iraq ?........

 

[Prometheus]

enlighten us......why?

I forgot the exact words, but there's a famous quote generally saying that a mark of intelligence is being able to argue an opposing position without espousing it.

point is that there is a difference between rationalization and justification. to ask WHY they attacked is not the same as saying it's CORRECT that they attacked.