no wonder iraqis hate us

[Lao Tzu]

http://www.uruklink.net/iraqnews/echild.htm



on my daily carouse of the internet, i decided to check out the state sponsored iraqi news agency website.

Its a nice counterbalance to the perpetual 'we are right and whoever we aren't getting along with now is evil' dogma spouted by the american media, but what blatant propaganda that iraq shit is.

 

[Citruscide]

No diggity, no doubt...

C

 

[KAYNE]

NORD

DO YOU LIVE IN THE U.S.? ARE YOU AMERICAN? CUZ YOU SURE SEEM TO DISLIKE THIS PLACE A HELL OF A LOT. WHICH BRINGS US TO THE OLD ADDAGE, "IF YOU HATE THIS PLACE SO MUCH, WHY DONT YOU JUST LEAVE"??? JUST CURIOUS.


KAYNE

 

[Lao Tzu]

NORD

DO YOU LIVE IN THE U.S.? ARE YOU AMERICAN? CUZ YOU SURE SEEM TO DISLIKE THIS PLACE A HELL OF A LOT. WHICH BRINGS US TO THE OLD ADDAGE, "IF YOU HATE THIS PLACE SO MUCH, WHY DONT YOU JUST LEAVE"??? JUST CURIOUS.


KAYNE

I didn't say anything anti-american in this post, i was pointing out what the Iraqis are exposed to everyday, trying to figure out why they hate us, and pointing out that stuff like that never appears in american media. Here in america we are perpetually exposed to stories about the kurds being gassed or female circumcision, and iraq is called an aggressor. Iraq newspapers perpetually talk about american aggression, and women/children dying from American actions. Its just a nice counterbalance. for example
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/wehr02.htm is german propaganda on WW2. It is a nice counterbalance to allied propaganda (we love freedom, and must protect it because we are attacked by the evil germans). I never said i agreed with iraqi propaganda, just that it was a nice counterbalance to american propaganda.

I will wholly admit that i used to be very antiamerican (about a year ago) but that was because i was indoctrinated with left wing propaganda at the time. I have become much more politically moderate, largely due to the intelligent (no sarcasm meant) debates i get into on elite with its conservative faction.

and i don't leave becuase it is a relatively free country. If you dont like that, that people can have their own opinions, why dont you leave? People are free to have opinions you dont agree with in america.

 

[italktoplanets]

People are free to have opinions you dont agree with in america.

enough said..

 

[madbomber31]

kayne man, why'd y ou jump on the guy for posting a news link??? i believe he was pointing out how biased the iraqi news was AGAINST us and that was the cause of our being hated so severely.... (news or letter or whatever that thing was)...

i'd hate a country that was using nuclear weapons on me too, and thats what they think due to propaganda by their gov.

 

[alien amp pharm]

Guys I think KAYNE was basically asking because it was kinda unclear if any antiAmericanism was going on.

I agree that freedom of speech (and opinion) is wonderful, but if anybody does hate America that lives here - that's fine to have an opinion, but get the hell out of America and quit wasting my tax money and wasting space!

 

[Ffactor]

Let's try to separate politics from patriotism, just becuase I don't agree with the government and media does not mean I am not patriotic. As far as Iraq goes we seem to forget that they did absolutely nothing to us, we attacked them for taking over Kuwait, something that other countries have done repeatedly in history. So, of course the Iraqis hate us!! We bombed the shit out of them. People are dying there by the boatload because of sanctions. Do you blame them?

 

[alien amp pharm]

Let's try to separate politics from patriotism, just becuase I don't agree with the government and media does not mean I am not patriotic. As far as Iraq goes we seem to forget that they did absolutely nothing to us, we attacked them for taking over Kuwait, something that other countries have done repeatedly in history. So, of course the Iraqis hate us!! We bombed the shit out of them. People are dying there by the boatload because of sanctions. Do you blame them?

Iraq did nothing to us???? How many times have they said that as soon as they acquire nukes (weapons of mass destruction) that they won't hesitate to use them on America? Hell, Sadam killed his own people. And the bombing was appropriate. -You just can't have some maniac like Sadam taking over everything (oil, countries, etc.). Somebody's gotta keep the peace and some sanity in the world. - even if it means 'some' people dying.

 

[dballer]

nord is right.. how can we expect them to like us.

all of you who understand this.. (we will make an example for curling).. ask yourselves.. where does all of this come from. There is only one reason.

We have been denied the facts. We have had our news supressed.