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draxxius

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Not body weight exercises, but self tension, like muscle flexing with range of motion. I found this website, with this hsi ching or something master named steve hamp. www.noweightsworkout.com

Tell me what you guys think. I am not too sure, actually. I have a lot of knowledge about working out and stuff, but, I just can't be sure on this one.

I have flexed my calves and my triceps really hard, for no more than 20 total reps, and they were sore for days afterwards. Made me think.

This guy says to do 30 reps of these exercises everyday....

Kind of confusing.
 
give me a break.

anyone have a theoretical answer?

I am keeping an open mind here. Looks like all you know is the stickies.
 
my opinion is that it can help you on practice for posing, but not for muscle development as the website claim.
 
Working muscle from the bone?? And building it from the interior first and then the exterior???? (this is so you don't get annoyed after a few months on this program with absolutely zero results), and the best one, Semen rentention, lol, hat the fuck??

I would say that website is ridiculous. Lift weights progressively and eat according to your goals.
 
Protobuilder said:
Did someone say semen retention?
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Yeah, lol, check the website out. I guess I better stop masturbating excessively, my life force is probably at 0, lol.


[B]For many men, to retain semen is not the norm. Most men try to lose as much as they possibly can, but for the Chinese martial artist, semen retention is a part of the life-force, or energy that's needed for good health, stamina, strength and longevity. Having said that, we Chinese martial artists love having sex, it's just very important to retain the semen. When you use it, you lose it. Have you noticed that women live longer than men? That's because they don't orgasm as much as men, therefore, not losing their life-force.[/B]
 
BiggT said:
Most men try to lose as much as they possibly can
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Here, here!

Having said that, we Chinese martial artists love having sex, it's just very important to retain the semen.
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That sounds like very bad t3h s3x.

Have you noticed that women live longer than men? That's because they don't orgasm as much as men, therefore, not losing their life-force.[/B]
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Oh. He must not have known some of the chixxorx I've known. LoL Or he sucks in t3h b3d. LoL
 
It gets better, lol, he said sphincter, butt cheeks, penis, and vaginal opening in the SAME paragraph, lol

Some simple exercises to begin practicing would be to stop the flow of urination. When urinating, constrict your sphincter by squeezing your butt cheeks together. This technique is called the "pelvic lock". Do this exercise daily, also put the pelvic lock into place several times during urination. Another simple exercise to do is performed while you are making love. When you start to feel like the orgasm is coming on (don't wait too long) put the pelvic lock on, then start rubbing the tip of your penis up and down her vaginal opening, thus stimulating her, while you get control of your orgasm.
 
Might as well include the end of the artile....nothing like using the penis as a straw to suck a woman's life force from her.

What happens when you are lasting longer with her in bed, and bringing her to climax, making her orgasm, your penis will act like a straw, sucking the energy out of her, and depositing her strength and energy into your "life-force account". Listen, haven't you noticed after having sex and you ejaculate, you're ready to go to sleep. If she didn't orgasm, she's ready to go watch television. You got her excited, hot, ready to go, heated up, then gave her your energy, your strength, your life-force. Keep doing this and she will live longer, be healthier, but definitely not happier.
 
You're killing me here! That's gotta' be a joke. Those chinese martial artists sure know how to lay pipe, but w/ women who don't orgasm much and men who don't "lose their life force," it must be quite boring. LoL

My life force is in the negative.
 
You've GOT to be making this up. I haven't actually visited the site yet.

Life force account? You can drain HER life force and it becomes YOURS? This defies teh laws of physicks. LoL Is there a life force bank somewhere that you can start a new account, like an off-shore account? And then you can make "deposits" there w/out other 'account holders' knowing about it? I think maybe he just played too much Mike Tyson's Punch-Out where you hit "A" and "B" repeatedly and watch the life froce drain away. Careful kids! Punching "a" and "b" too much can lead to life-force drainage. LoL Esepcially if you look at a nudey mag while doing it. LoL
 
draxxius said:
Not body weight exercises, but self tension, like muscle flexing with range of motion. I found this website, with this hsi ching or something master named steve hamp. www.noweightsworkout.com

Tell me what you guys think. I am not too sure, actually. I have a lot of knowledge about working out and stuff, but, I just can't be sure on this one.

I have flexed my calves and my triceps really hard, for no more than 20 total reps, and they were sore for days afterwards. Made me think.

This guy says to do 30 reps of these exercises everyday....

Kind of confusing.
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Let me bore you with some history.

During the WWII years, there was no iron for "iron". Everything went to the war effort because this war was coming to our shores and people were dealy serious about conservation and rationing.

So ..... the most popular body building course was "Dynamic Tension". Each week you'd get a little booklet in the mail with exercises that pitted one muscle against another for reps.

Picture a concentraion curl with the opposite hand providing the resistance like a one arm tricep pushdown.

I'm a littel kid doing this stuff and it worked! Sure it was not that sophisticated, but it built muscle.

You did push ups, hand stands, stair climb, chins ... leg raises, sit ups.

You were also taught to stop at the apex and hold the tension against the resistance for a count of 5-10.
 
They should make that site a sticky on this board. There is a lot of valueable information. Now I think I'll go and blow my 'life force' all over my girlfriend's face.
 
I recall dynamic tension as well as I recall exessive onanation.

There comes a point with each of those when you require something more. In the case of training, that something more is progressive resistance which most satisfy by getting under some heavy iron. You can run maintaince workouts with bodyweight exercises and as a newbie you can make some respectable gains without joining a gym or doing any of the 'standard' exercises. As you progress, you need to stress your organism ever more to stimulate ever more adaptation.

Read some of the stickies. If training theory interests you then take a browse around Madcow's site.
http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/table_of_contents_thread.htm
 
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thelion2005 said:
Let me bore you with some history.

During the WWII years, there was no iron for "iron". Everything went to the war effort because this war was coming to our shores and people were dealy serious about conservation and rationing.

So ..... the most popular body building course was "Dynamic Tension". Each week you'd get a little booklet in the mail with exercises that pitted one muscle against another for reps.

Picture a concentraion curl with the opposite hand providing the resistance like a one arm tricep pushdown.

I'm a littel kid doing this stuff and it worked! Sure it was not that sophisticated, but it built muscle.

You did push ups, hand stands, stair climb, chins ... leg raises, sit ups.

You were also taught to stop at the apex and hold the tension against the resistance for a count of 5-10.
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i understand where you are coming from... and yes pushups and chins etc.. are great exersises... i can even see the resistance concentraion curl used...
but just squeezing the muscle like the original poster said??? honsetly? i just dont see any practical aplication there for anyone who has access to the most primitive type of workout equipment...
 
I am just persistent on the idea that it may do something, due to the fact I became very sore after just flexing extremely hard.


I currently weight train, and it is all I do. When I was bored, I flexed my calves and they were sore and fatigued for a few days after.

the website is silly, and i don't stand by it, BUT, i know all of the training theory and what not, and it is theory........and due to the fact of my calves....just wondering...maybe, could do something.

the herbs are very overpriced, i agree.

maybe you guys should go in his little forum and say something, i think that would be a very interesting debate.

but....with all this silliness....i gotta say....there is one set of muscles that have gained some impressive size just from various flexings....haha...hahahah...hahahahahahahahahahahaha.....HAHAHAAAA
 
Flexing a muscle and holding it or pressing against an immobile object (ie, a wall) is called isometric training, right?

If I remember correctly, this type of training was extensively pushed during the 40-50's (like thelion2005 said) for athletes of any sport - and from everything I've read, it was pretty ineffective. Any results probably came from push-ups, chins etc. (which are isotonic, right?)
 
i believe you are correct. there is a good amount of documentation showing that it created results, different sources varying with how well.

i recall arnold saying that flexing helped fill in the spots not hit by weight training, and I recall the old time strongmen using similar methods, especially with the abs. Some of their lifts cannot be matched today.

But, people here are saying it will do absolutely positively zero. nothing. not one freaking micro ounce. And I am just saying it may very well do something, maybe not to an extent of weight training. But, who here has actually applied a great amount of flex tension, until it hurts, and done it over a long period of time? Probably no one. It is tension, right?

If I don't see any science saying otherwise....and you all are pushing the science....then how can you be so sure?
 
draxxius said:
i believe you are correct. there is a good amount of documentation showing that it created results, different sources varying with how well.

i recall arnold saying that flexing helped fill in the spots not hit by weight training, and I recall the old time strongmen using similar methods, especially with the abs. Some of their lifts cannot be matched today.

But, people here are saying it will do absolutely positively zero. nothing. not one freaking micro ounce. And I am just saying it may very well do something, maybe not to an extent of weight training. But, who here has actually applied a great amount of flex tension, until it hurts, and done it over a long period of time? Probably no one. It is tension, right?

If I don't see any science saying otherwise....and you all are pushing the science....then how can you be so sure?
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Nobody is pushing science, they are pushing practical application. If you're untrained you will see some results as 'something is better than nothing'.....and if you have absolutely no options, you'll get the something is better than nothing effect......if you're highly trained and you ditch lifting weights for these exercises, then you'll see regression in both strength and physique, just common sense and practical application, regardless of what science says happens when you flex a muscle.

Bodyweight exercises like pushups and chins will produce results, especially in untrained people....there will come a point where to make further gains , resistance is needed, and if somebody can bench press double bodyweight, then they stop to just do pushups, they will see a decrease in size and strength as their training loads were slashed drastically.
 
draxxius said:
i believe you are correct. there is a good amount of documentation showing that it created results, different sources varying with how well.

i recall arnold saying that flexing helped fill in the spots not hit by weight training, and I recall the old time strongmen using similar methods, especially with the abs. Some of their lifts cannot be matched today.

But, people here are saying it will do absolutely positively zero. nothing. not one freaking micro ounce. And I am just saying it may very well do something, maybe not to an extent of weight training. But, who here has actually applied a great amount of flex tension, until it hurts, and done it over a long period of time? Probably no one. It is tension, right?

If I don't see any science saying otherwise....and you all are pushing the science....then how can you be so sure?
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I tried it for a while as a kid and I even moved on to a bullworker for a while. Yes it works. Read BiggT's post ^^ for more info.
 
alright. i appreciate those answers. I can see what you are saying, and I agree with them.

now, I agree semen retention and expensive herbs is crazy, and purely flexing is crazy as well. I was just hoping someone had experience with just flexing, and seeing if it got them anywhere.

semen retention can actually cause cancer. If you want to read some in depth endocrinology and sex science, go to www.actionlove.com. Everything from broken dicks to shrinking vaginas. crazy stuff.

There are a lot of articles, and some of them are a little contradictory, but you can usually come to a conclusion.
 
Ok, Now I am seriously laughing my ass off....lol

Anyways, yes it is called Isometrics. It does work pretty well if you do them along with weights..

semen retention...lol..funny...life force...this is killing me...lmao..
 
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