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Tom Treutlein
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You've adapted to your training, that's all. It's pretty normal. If you don't get sore, don't worry. It's not an indicator of growth or even a good workout. Personally, I like being sore because it makes me feel accomplished. Whether or not it means a thing, I don't care.
Welcome to the boards! I say if youre not getting sore its time to change your routine. More intensity and more volume may very well be the answer. After 9 years of training I make sure I am sore after each session. Soreness is an indicator of growth in my mind. Keep training hard!!
Just because you aren't sore doesnt mean you are not training hard enough. If you are lucky, your body will recover fast enough that you dont get overly sore. However, after a hard workout you should have some point tenderness. More often than not this is the only soreness i get and i train as hard as anyone.
lolJKurz1 said:
you read my mind
i have personally found that i am sore after really good workouts, or at least have tightness and a little tenderness from the muscle being broken down
but i have meet big guys who say they are never sore after training
i think it is part of the mental aspect, soreness really makes many belive that they trained hard
JKurz1
Banned
nah...definately not mental.......sometimes I'm sore, when I feel like I didn't train as hard as I could of...others, I hit 3 or 4 PRs and can't tell I did anything the day before.......I'll tell you what though, Lunges.....walking or parking lot lunges, will get me everytime........2 days later, I cant sit down...........sometimes it's just a matter of a different movement, or hitting a muscle a little differently that shocks it into soreness.....
Soreness may not be completely necessary. All I know is, thats the way Ive trained and gotten the best results. I always strive for that soreness, if I dont feel it, it usually means I had a half-ass workout, which I dont allow to happen anymore. I takes alot for me to get sore in any bodypart, since Im used to a good deal of abuse, so I really have to push it hard to feel it the next days. Ive always used soreness as a gauge of effectiveness. There are lots of theories on soreness. At the very least, this perspective keeps me training very hard all the time.
JKurz1
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Everyone has their own theory, but this doesn't make sense......you arent sore until the next day and/or many times 2 days later........so, you could leave the gym in a pool of sweat, last rep almost made you crumble to you knees, got home, grubbed, and said,,,I just had one f-ing intense training session.......THEN, wake up, not be sore, and think, boy I must have gone half-ass yesterday....2 words BULL-SH*T
Actually, if you stretch properly afterwards, and your body is primed for training, there shouldnt be too much soreness.........my .03.
Actually, if you stretch properly afterwards, and your body is primed for training, there shouldnt be too much soreness.........my .03.
JKurz1 said:
My theory doesnt go to deep on this subject. I havent examined muscle tissue under a microscope and tested the effects of lactic acid build up on soreness, or ran studies or anything like that. Even if I did, whos to say the results would reveal the truth? Its just something I go by. And its been real accurate for me. Whenever I have a shitty workout and dont push myself all the way, it always results in zero soreness. When I really blast it out and train intensely, theres always soreness. The degree of soreness always matches the amount of intensity and abuse Ive subjected myself to the previous day. It may not be the same for everyone. Just something I go by. No solid theory. One reason I follow this, is advice from my uncle. He was 280lbs at 12% BF w/ 23 inch arms at his peak, and he always trained by this theory. Of course thats one of the few pieces of advice I took from him, my training sessions are still MUCH longer then his. But also, I dont have the help of anabolics.
JKurz1 said:
Well, i train as hard or harder than anyone i have ever seen in the gym. I have spent the past 6 years in to different collegiate gyms and have set a pretty high standard. Just because you dont know who the hell i am gives you not right to justify your response. I would be more than willing to complete your workout for a week and you complete mine for a week.
jkurz1,
Here are some numbers for you about myself:
height: 5'10.5"
weight: 250lbs
chest: 49-50"
arms: 18.5"
legs: no clue, but too small...i have a V-frame.
bench: 3 sets of 15 reps @ 315
all-time high...425, probably over 450 now.
rest pauses: 405 for 3 reps
incline: 335 for 5 reps
decline: 365 for 10 reps (after inclince)
close grip: 315 for 10 reps
military press: 275 for 7, 3 sets of 10 @ 225
arms: standing dumbbell curls: 60s
standing barbell curls: 155 for 10 (a little shaky)
legs: OH SHI*, bad knees i take it easy
squats: 315 for 10 reps
deads: 315 for 10 reps
With these numbers i suspect i might train pretty hard.
corey
Here are some numbers for you about myself:
height: 5'10.5"
weight: 250lbs
chest: 49-50"
arms: 18.5"
legs: no clue, but too small...i have a V-frame.
bench: 3 sets of 15 reps @ 315
all-time high...425, probably over 450 now.
rest pauses: 405 for 3 reps
incline: 335 for 5 reps
decline: 365 for 10 reps (after inclince)
close grip: 315 for 10 reps
military press: 275 for 7, 3 sets of 10 @ 225
arms: standing dumbbell curls: 60s
standing barbell curls: 155 for 10 (a little shaky)
legs: OH SHI*, bad knees i take it easy
squats: 315 for 10 reps
deads: 315 for 10 reps
With these numbers i suspect i might train pretty hard.
corey
cwick0 said:
Great lifts! Keep it up!!
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Ulcasterdropout
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soreness...I'm not happy till I get spasms 
I think if you not getting soreness in that muscle, you need
to change somthing. I'm no doctor, but if I don't feel some kind of muscle fatigue, I don't think I accomplished a damn thing.
I think if you not getting soreness in that muscle, you need
to change somthing. I'm no doctor, but if I don't feel some kind of muscle fatigue, I don't think I accomplished a damn thing.
Dorian'sDisciple
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if being sore means so much to you (i just find it annoying nowadays) then do some heavy forced negatives to failure...hey presto! sore as Elton John's butthole after a dirty weekend in San Fran
JKurz1
Banned
WB - well, I did you routine (arms) last night to the penny......actually, tossed in some extra forearms and wrist work. When I left, I could hardly drive home......bis felt like jello and were pumped to the gills...........bad news.............not sore in the least right now......hmmm.......
