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darwinmcduck

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That shit is heroin in an ampule. Same addictive garbage but packaged nicer.
Too many young guys look at this sight to be promoting that poison. We do not want to even put that crap in their mind. I have seen SEVERAL guys lose everything from Nubain, Bupronex, and Stadol. They are all evil. You will watch as you lose your muscles, money, motivation and self esteem. That is powerful medicine that should not be used to recover from a tough leg workout. I would ask anyone that posted something about nubain (other than a post stating its dangers) to remove it. This is not the place for narcotic chatter.
 
I doubt that too many guys will rave about Nubain's effects for too long. After you've been on it awhile it no longer makes you feel good and you need it just to feel normal. Withdrawals are harsh-3 days of flu like symptoms and the non stop urge to grind your teeth and clench your fists. Then it will be another month or so before you can fall asleep at night while training and normal everyday tasks will require a lot of effort. Stopping may seem easy-but once your brain chemistry has been altered from using it so long you're mind will play tricks on itself and you'll continue to use even though you consciously know that you should kick. A lot of guys I know actually had to leave town for awhile to prevent themselves from using it again. Other guys are still hooked to this day. Run Forrest, Run!!!

Tomorrow will be exactly 13 months I've been off of it-the 5 yrs I used it before that still seem like a blur and using Nubain has been one of the only regrets I've had in life.
 
darwinmcduck said:
That shit is heroin in an ampule. Same addictive garbage but packaged nicer.
Too many young guys look at this sight to be promoting that poison. We do not want to even put that crap in their mind. I have seen SEVERAL guys lose everything from Nubain, Bupronex, and Stadol. They are all evil. You will watch as you lose your muscles, money, motivation and self esteem. That is powerful medicine that should not be used to recover from a tough leg workout. I would ask anyone that posted something about nubain (other than a post stating its dangers) to remove it. This is not the place for narcotic chatter.
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I'm totally with you!! Kudos!
 
I battled with it for a long while. I regret it as well. It screws your dopamine production up to the point where you will never feel enjoyment the same. You will remember your sense of well being as something taken for granted and abused. I do not like to think about what kicking it was like. The entire period of time that I used it was bad. It certainly was not worth it.
 
And I cant agree more, It took me down a long dark road to where I am thankfull to be out of and got back on track with BBING, it started with nubain which of course became too weak, then Oxycontins and then to heroin, I battled it for 2 years and finally won, if anyone is thinking about or just started taking nubain because you hear bullshit like I heard, that its not addictive, blah blah blah, stop the shit right now, it does nothing but fuck your life up.....Trust me, ive been to hell and back, and unless you know what it feels like to have an addiction like heroin all because of nubain you might have to learn the hard way, which I hope you dont....
 
jackedfreak said:
And I cant agree more, It took me down a long dark road to where I am thankfull to be out of and got back on track with BBING, it started with nubain which of course became too weak, then Oxycontins and then to heroin, I battled it for 2 years and finally won, if anyone is thinking about or just started taking nubain because you hear bullshit like I heard, that its not addictive, blah blah blah, stop the shit right now, it does nothing but fuck your life up.....Trust me, ive been to hell and back, and unless you know what it feels like to have an addiction like heroin all because of nubain you might have to learn the hard way, which I hope you dont....
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I agree 1000000%, and we need to add GHB to this list of bodybuilding bullshit drugs.....shit almost cost me my life
 
Absolutely. GHB as well, these two can seriously hurt people. I see on every board that I belong to members bashing the sources who carry this stuff for these very reasons. I don;t give it too much longer and it will be out of the BB'ing community for good.
 
If you're using Nubain it's for recreational purposes, cut and dry. To each his own, but some drugs are just plain stupid.
 
Slyder190 said:
If you're using Nubain it's for recreational purposes, cut and dry. To each his own, but some drugs are just plain stupid.
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It's actually a great training and dietary aid-more stamina and you don't ever feel too tired or hungry. However it doesn't come without a price-and it's not even worth experimenting with.
 
BigCracker said:
It's actually a great training and dietary aid-more stamina and you don't ever feel too tired or hungry. However it doesn't come without a price-and it's not even worth experimenting with.
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This is exactly the type of thing you SHOULDN'T be posting.
 
YankeesMan said:
This is exactly the type of thing you SHOULDN'T be posting.
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OK, if you use it one time death is imminent.

Gimme a break-lying will only further fuel the curiosity. Just look at high school kids and AAS-the more they hear how bad AAS are, the more they realize that nobody's dying from using them. Since they feel they're being lied to, they overlook any real dangers AAS as if they're lies as well. Discussing stuff like this is a necessary evil-otherwise guys won't be able to get 1st hand 411 on what it's all about. It's up to them whether they wish to dance with the devil or not.
 
BigCracker said:
OK, if you use it one time death is imminent.

Gimme a break-lying will only further fuel the curiosity. Just look at high school kids and AAS-the more they hear how bad AAS are, the more they realize that nobody's dying from using them. Since they feel they're being lied to, they overlook any real dangers AAS as if they're lies as well. Discussing stuff like this is a necessary evil-otherwise guys won't be able to get 1st hand 411 on what it's all about. It's up to them whether they wish to dance with the devil or not.
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agree here
 
BigCracker said:
OK, if you use it one time death is imminent.

Gimme a break-lying will only further fuel the curiosity. Just look at high school kids and AAS-the more they hear how bad AAS are, the more they realize that nobody's dying from using them. Since they feel they're being lied to, they overlook any real dangers AAS as if they're lies as well. Discussing stuff like this is a necessary evil-otherwise guys won't be able to get 1st hand 411 on what it's all about. It's up to them whether they wish to dance with the devil or not.
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Some true words right here. Opiates especially o.c.'s messed me up to the point where I took suboxone for a while. Even though I was told to stay away I had to learn for myself.
 
I can understand not promoting places selling it. That is fair enough and I guess why my earlier question got delted. But to pretend that taking nubain is guarantee to addiction is bs. I know guys who will take a quarter amp maybe once a week before a heavy session without ever resorting to using it after training, using heroin etc etc. Let's say that if you have a brain and a non-addictive personality you are unlikely to get addicted.
 
stevebarber said:
I can understand not promoting places selling it. That is fair enough and I guess why my earlier question got delted. But to pretend that taking nubain is guarantee to addiction is bs. I know guys who will take a quarter amp maybe once a week before a heavy session without ever resorting to using it after training, using heroin etc etc. Let's say that if you have a brain and a non-addictive personality you are unlikely to get addicted.
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i used to say the same thing about GHB bro, but you NEVER know how you will react to somethign in the FUTURE, you might not be addicted now, but it CAN happen even to the MOST NON addictive people in teh world.....i've seen it happen, guys that took a bit once a week for a year, then their wife leaves them or something happens, then its twice a week, then three times, then 5 times a fucking day!

believe me bro, i've been down this road, go back 4 or 5 years and read some of the posts i used to make on GHB defending it, saying if used responsibly it had its place, no way i would abuse it, etc etc........shit changes in life bro, its just best if we as a group on this board do NOT promote the usage, selling, price shopping etc of drugs such as these

here is a good example bro....read what i wrote and thought 5 years ago

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21481&highlight=GHB+drrman



MAN oh MAN i have changed my mind
 
I've posted before about my GHB problems in the past.... However, there are guys that can use the stuff without becoming addicted to it..... I can't ignore that fact, and push my negative beliefs on guys that can be responsible with it..... I feel the same about Nubain.....

rizz
 
drrman said:
i used to say the same thing about GHB bro, but you NEVER know how you will react to somethign in the FUTURE, you might not be addicted now, but it CAN happen even to the MOST NON addictive people in teh world.....i've seen it happen, guys that took a bit once a week for a year, then their wife leaves them or something happens, then its twice a week, then three times, then 5 times a fucking day!

believe me bro, i've been down this road, go back 4 or 5 years and read some of the posts i used to make on GHB defending it, saying if used responsibly it had its place, no way i would abuse it, etc etc........shit changes in life bro, its just best if we as a group on this board do NOT promote the usage, selling, price shopping etc of drugs such as these

here is a good example bro....read what i wrote and thought 5 years ago

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21481&highlight=GHB+drrman



MAN oh MAN i have changed my mind
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Amen Brother! Well said!
 
Steve,

You can't refer to nubain use and then use the old cop-out that it all depends on your personality. If you steroids then your use of them is normally self prescribed. This self medication behavior is a considered a clear sign of being one prone to addictive behavior. Not to say it will happen to all but the odds are you will reflect back upon nubain use and get a chill. I am a very social guy with a lot of BB's in my circle. When that nubain hit the group of us a frightening number of individuals lost everything. I can quickly think of three very close friends that started off taking one amp here and there and remain addicted 5 years later. I ask them what they think of it and they despise it worse than anything. They would never suggext anyone should take it.
 
darwinmcduck said:
Steve,

You can't refer to nubain use and then use the old cop-out that it all depends on your personality. If you steroids then your use of them is normally self prescribed. This self medication behavior is a considered a clear sign of being one prone to addictive behavior. Not to say it will happen to all but the odds are you will reflect back upon nubain use and get a chill. I am a very social guy with a lot of BB's in my circle. When that nubain hit the group of us a frightening number of individuals lost everything. I can quickly think of three very close friends that started off taking one amp here and there and remain addicted 5 years later. I ask them what they think of it and they despise it worse than anything. They would never suggext anyone should take it.
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darwin, some people just have to learn things on their own, i know i was that way! i just wish i would have been able to listen back in the day! but im a stronger person now for getting over all this shit anyways
 
My addiction was a gradual process. It started out as a pre workout aid and a little while later as a pre cardio motivational tool. Then I added it a 3rd time to fall asleep when hungry. After almost a year I started using it religiously every 3-4 hrs a day-even waking up in the middle of night 1-2x shoot again. I've done almost every drug under the sun w/o fear of becoming addicted, but Nubain crept up on me and bit me in the ass big time. Don't say it weill never happen to you cuz that's what I used to say.
 
You really dont know the dangers of Opiates in general until you hit that road, I was up 3 times a night cooking heroin, all from stupid nubain. It just is a waste of time and life, I lost my best freind in 2004 to a heroin overdose, which all strated from his nubain use as well. Not only did my freind have a body much better than mine, he had pro status in his hands, photo shoots with Met Rx scheduled 2 months in the future, he had it all, he could look at weights and grow, I had to work my balls off, but he had it all, but he couldnt beat that goddam addiciton, even though I tried to help him like I helped myself, he wasnt ready I guess. Not only did it ruin his life, his family is now torn apart, mom is in mental hospital, he also had yonger siblings that have no mother or father either because they could not mentally take the pain of suddenly loosing their first born. Knowone wants a phone call at 2AM hearing thier best freind since 2nd grade has passed away with a needle in their arm on a toilet....Use this shit and eventually you WILL end up with him.....
 
Nubain sure arouses strong opinions but people have to show perspective. No one denies it can fuck you up. Same for GHB since someone brought it up. However in the same way GHB is used by an awful lot of people nowadays recreationally where I live (UK) without anyone getting particularly harmed by it (certainly not in comparison to alcohol), ditto now that guys are more aware of nubain's dangers they are less likely to get addicted.

In the same way if you knew nothing about cocaine/crack/heroin you would certainly get addicted, prior knowledge definitely limits the potential for addiction. Most people I know are so scared of getting addicted they restrict their use of these types of drugs to a minimum. Whereas if they knew nothing about it the chances are addiction would creep up on them.

Bottom Line: No drug is guaranteed to lead to someone ruining their life. Too many other factors involved. I for one have used nubain only maybe once every 3 or 4 weeks before a heavy day. I have no interest in its recreational use. I tried it once and it left me feeling shit. Never again.
 
I don't think anyone is saying that by trying anything once you're going to become an addict, and I don't think thats really the point. The point is no matter how you slice it both GHB and NUBAIN are rec drugs and in my opinion have no place on this board. Whether you want to admit it or not, discussing these drugs is EXACTLY the same as discussing MDMA or Cocaine, and what benafits they may have.
 
Talking about the dangers of any drug has its place ANYWHERE. If I can change one persons mind on trying it, then this thread is worth it, or even put a bit of fear into someone thinking of trying it, it leads to other things, FACT.
 
stevebarber said:
Nubain sure arouses strong opinions but people have to show perspective. No one denies it can fuck you up. Same for GHB since someone brought it up. However in the same way GHB is used by an awful lot of people nowadays recreationally where I live (UK) without anyone getting particularly harmed by it (certainly not in comparison to alcohol), ditto now that guys are more aware of nubain's dangers they are less likely to get addicted.

In the same way if you knew nothing about cocaine/crack/heroin you would certainly get addicted, prior knowledge definitely limits the potential for addiction. Most people I know are so scared of getting addicted they restrict their use of these types of drugs to a minimum. Whereas if they knew nothing about it the chances are addiction would creep up on them.

Bottom Line: No drug is guaranteed to lead to someone ruining their life. Too many other factors involved. I for one have used nubain only maybe once every 3 or 4 weeks before a heavy day. I have no interest in its recreational use. I tried it once and it left me feeling shit. Never again.
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prior knowledge doesn't mean shit snort some coke and see if you are thinking i better stop i might get addicted you don't even relize until you try to stop and that goes for any drug
 
bigmouth2006 said:
prior knowledge doesn't mean shit snort some coke and see if you are thinking i better stop i might get addicted you don't even relize until you try to stop and that goes for any drug
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Ok since you mentioned it I have snorted coke near daily for upto 3 or 4 weeks and then stopped but went through an ounce in that time. Never took it again. Sure I felt shit for awhile but I knew that if I took a hit then I would risk addiction. Same for cigarettes btw - smoked for a year but I stopped. And yeah I have taken GHB recreationally but again I will do it about as often as I drink - maybe 3 or 4 times a year.

All I'm saying is why do we have to adopt an extreme for/against position. There is a middle ground which says the occasional drink/blunt etc can help unwind and similarly the occasional ephedrine/painkiller can help us set records in the gym.

Everything in moderation and all that :Chef:
 
YankeesMan said:
I don't think anyone is saying that by trying anything once you're going to become an addict, and I don't think thats really the point. The point is no matter how you slice it both GHB and NUBAIN are rec drugs and in my opinion have no place on this board. Whether you want to admit it or not, discussing these drugs is EXACTLY the same as discussing MDMA or Cocaine, and what benafits they may have.
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I don't like cocaine, but I sure like how it smells. Great for pre contest cut up too. :p
 
stevebarber said:
Ok since you mentioned it I have snorted coke near daily for upto 3 or 4 weeks and then stopped but went through an ounce in that time. Never took it again. Sure I felt shit for awhile but I knew that if I took a hit then I would risk addiction. Same for cigarettes btw - smoked for a year but I stopped. And yeah I have taken GHB recreationally but again I will do it about as often as I drink - maybe 3 or 4 times a year.

All I'm saying is why do we have to adopt an extreme for/against position. There is a middle ground which says the occasional drink/blunt etc can help unwind and similarly the occasional ephedrine/painkiller can help us set records in the gym.

Everything in moderation and all that :Chef:
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say what you will, some things are correct in moderation, but this forum as about BUILDING our bodies, hence bodybuilding, not about tearing them DOWN as these drugs do! I promise you there are WAY WAY more people that have had BAD experiences with these drugs than ones where the drugs have helped their bodybuilding, they are BAD NEWS and in no way need to be discussed here as far as using them for bodybuilding, how much they cost, where to get them, and how to use them, its just NOT a good idea

wanna know how to use rec drugs go to a rec drug forum
www.bluelight.nu is a good one, keep the shit off here
 
BigCracker said:
I don't like cocaine, but I sure like how it smells. Great for pre contest cut up too. :p
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LOL....didn't do that for me, made me look flat as a tire, useless as a glass hammer, and feel like shit
 
I actually decided to leave 'bain out of my book for that reason. I don't see it as a performance enhancer...
 
I hated seeing guys all over the place hitting the nubain needle like it was candy. terrible stuff.
I have a hard time telling myself its OK to take Baby aspirin when Im sore. I couldnt ever even get near nubain.
on a side note I did use GHB when it was legal as a means of getting a good GH spike when i was asleep. thats about it. stopped using it when it became illegal. didnt really notice too much of a difference anyways...i sleep like a fuckin rock.
 
CaddysNJuice said:
im sorry for asking this, but what the hell ios this stuff? A painkiller that is injected?
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Yes. It can be taken Sub Q, Intramuscular, or IV. IV'ing it hits you in 30 seconds. Intramuscular and Sub-Q takes about 15 mins.
 
BigCracker said:
OK, if you use it one time death is imminent.

Gimme a break-lying will only further fuel the curiosity. Just look at high school kids and AAS-the more they hear how bad AAS are, the more they realize that nobody's dying from using them. Since they feel they're being lied to, they overlook any real dangers AAS as if they're lies as well. Discussing stuff like this is a necessary evil-otherwise guys won't be able to get 1st hand 411 on what it's all about. It's up to them whether they wish to dance with the devil or not.
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I agree. I have used GHB on/off for probably 10 years. It by far the best sleeping aid with regards to the occassionly insomnia that I get.

Out of the probably 20 close friends that I know that use GHB, I do not know one that has ever had a problem with it as far addiction. I have some friends that have had problems with cocaine and at least one with alcohol.
But I have never seen any crave GHB. I know it can happen with some individuals but I believe it is extremely rare.

I also have used it recreationally to provide a similiar feeling as alcohol but without toxic effects and the short duration allows you to be "sober" up quickly.

I always find it funny that people on this board complain that others that don't understand their use of AAS and laugh when people claim how dangerous AAS is. But when the same people don't understand or themselves personally can't manage another substance like Nubain or GHB, then they demonize it and say it has not place.

Claim all you want that "you" have a problem but please stop short of claiming that GHB has not purpose for anyone or that everyone will have issues. Otherwise, "you" will be just like the "them" that "you" complain about.
 
buckwheat1 said:
I agree. I have used GHB on/off for probably 10 years. It by far the best sleeping aid with regards to the occassionly insomnia that I get.

Out of the probably 20 close friends that I know that use GHB, I do not know one that has ever had a problem with it as far addiction. I have some friends that have had problems with cocaine and at least one with alcohol.
But I have never seen any crave GHB. I know it can happen with some individuals but I believe it is extremely rare.

I also have used it recreationally to provide a similiar feeling as alcohol but without toxic effects and the short duration allows you to be "sober" up quickly.

I always find it funny that people on this board complain that others that don't understand their use of AAS and laugh when people claim how dangerous AAS is. But when the same people don't understand or themselves personally can't manage another substance like Nubain or GHB, then they demonize it and say it has not place.

Claim all you want that "you" have a problem but please stop short of claiming that GHB has not purpose for anyone or that everyone will have issues. Otherwise, "you" will be just like the "them" that "you" complain about.
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Your post is largely being viewed by the blind. Numerous times I've pointed out that everyone has some sort of vice that makes none of us better than the other. However, many roid guys feel their choices are superior to anyone else's in the same way fat asses pull the roid card around anybody with a decent physique. This type of hypocrisy is sheer ignorance no matter how you slice it. There's nothing wrong with having your personal beliefs, but when you start forcing them on others in a condescending manor, you are a true asshole.
 
Yes i think they should be allowed. If anyone says they ran out and used and became addicted to either Nubain or GHB because the read it on the internet has their own issues anyway.

If it is not dicussed in the open (benefits and disadvantages) then it becomes the unknown and more exciting for some.

Anything to do with opiates are dangerous but sshould we not be allowed to discuss? then i would say of course we should as that will actually prevent people from having problems. For those that use and abuse then i am afraid but banning it form Elitefitness will nto save them IMHO

Wrongun!
 
buckwheat1 said:
I agree. I have used GHB on/off for probably 10 years. It by far the best sleeping aid with regards to the occassionly insomnia that I get.

Out of the probably 20 close friends that I know that use GHB, I do not know one that has ever had a problem with it as far addiction. I have some friends that have had problems with cocaine and at least one with alcohol.
But I have never seen any crave GHB. I know it can happen with some individuals but I believe it is extremely rare.

I also have used it recreationally to provide a similiar feeling as alcohol but without toxic effects and the short duration allows you to be "sober" up quickly.

I always find it funny that people on this board complain that others that don't understand their use of AAS and laugh when people claim how dangerous AAS is. But when the same people don't understand or themselves personally can't manage another substance like Nubain or GHB, then they demonize it and say it has not place.

Claim all you want that "you" have a problem but please stop short of claiming that GHB has not purpose for anyone or that everyone will have issues. Otherwise, "you" will be just like the "them" that "you" complain about.
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Well, I have used Cocaine off and on for 10yrs, never got addicted to it... I have at least 20 friends that have done the same.... Does that mean Coke isn't addictive? Does it mean others don't have problems with it? I hear your point, but you aren't conveying it very well bro..... I have no prob with Nubain, used it 100's of times, never got addicted.... However, GHB grabbed me by the balls, and I was physically addicted to that stuff for YEARS.... The withdrawl required me being tied to a bed for 4 days, and heavily sedated, so GHB addiction is REAL, even if "none of your friends" got addicted to it....

I too think this board should be open to Nubain/GHB posts questions..... Whether you agree with their use or not, they are being used by BB's.... What makes them worse then AAS? Other then the law is tougher on them....

rizz
 
Prizz said:
Well, I have used Cocaine off and on for 10yrs, never got addicted to it... I have at least 20 friends that have done the same.... Does that mean Coke isn't addictive? Does it mean others don't have problems with it? I hear your point, but you aren't conveying it very well bro..... I have no prob with Nubain, used it 100's of times, never got addicted.... However, GHB grabbed me by the balls, and I was physically addicted to that stuff for YEARS.... The withdrawl required me being tied to a bed for 4 days, and heavily sedated, so GHB addiction is REAL, even if "none of your friends" got addicted to it....

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rizz
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AGREE, GHB had me by the nads too.....but anyways i think we might should be able to discuss them but NOT to tell someone to use them for a reason....such as if you can't sleep just get you some GHB......ya know

we shouldn't point out to people who aren't already using to go try something that very well might put them in the ground....make sense?
 
one of my lifelong friends just died from heroin, age 26, well, he died from the bullshit bad heroin that's being sold in chicago.
 
If you need nubain then you should find a new hobby.
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completely agree. arent we supposed to feel our muscles with a mental connection? why interrupt that?

i have that personality that will do everything to the extreme. luckily this personality locked into hardcore dieting and training as a compulsion. cause thats what it is. thats why i've never done cocaine, heroin, crack.... all the hard things that ruin lives. i'd be an after thought.

nubain always has and always will seem pointless to me. but i understand the hunger if you get bit by the bug. somethings can become so important if you have that hunger for it.
 
drrman said:
i used to say the same thing about GHB bro, but you NEVER know how you will react to somethign in the FUTURE, you might not be addicted now, but it CAN happen even to the MOST NON addictive people in teh world.....i've seen it happen, guys that took a bit once a week for a year, then their wife leaves them or something happens, then its twice a week, then three times, then 5 times a fucking day!

believe me bro, i've been down this road, go back 4 or 5 years and read some of the posts i used to make on GHB defending it, saying if used responsibly it had its place, no way i would abuse it, etc etc........shit changes in life bro, its just best if we as a group on this board do NOT promote the usage, selling, price shopping etc of drugs such as these

here is a good example bro....read what i wrote and thought 5 years ago

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21481&highlight=GHB+drrman



MAN oh MAN i have changed my mind
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Ahhh GHB...welll I never used it except for sleep so to be honest ..@ 3.5% today and insomnia from being so lean rampent in my life now.......I miss it. But Nubain! It just never seemed like a really good idea and the dudes I saw on it drooling on a couch...pretty!....same with Special K! I agree that hard Narcotic threads need to be kept closed unless it is someone asking for help.

Q.
 
BigCracker said:
I doubt that too many guys will rave about Nubain's effects for too long. After you've been on it awhile it no longer makes you feel good and you need it just to feel normal. Withdrawals are harsh-3 days of flu like symptoms and the non stop urge to grind your teeth and clench your fists. Then it will be another month or so before you can fall asleep at night while training and normal everyday tasks will require a lot of effort. Stopping may seem easy-but once your brain chemistry has been altered from using it so long you're mind will play tricks on itself and you'll continue to use even though you consciously know that you should kick. A lot of guys I know actually had to leave town for awhile to prevent themselves from using it again. Other guys are still hooked to this day. Run Forrest, Run!!!

Tomorrow will be exactly 13 months I've been off of it-the 5 yrs I used it before that still seem like a blur and using Nubain has been one of the only regrets I've had in life.
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Great post-I was hooked on bain for a LONG time also and I feel ya on this one. Just when you are starting to feel better after you "quit", someone just magically happens to get a bunch in. Congrats on being clean bro-June 2nd will be 7 months for me with no IV drug use-now I'm really starting to HATE the idea of using again-I never thought I'd be clean for 7 hours, let alone 7 months.
 
It's really dumb to take nubain, but it's not as addictive as you people are making it out to be. If it were that addicting it would atleast be a controlled substance.
 
wow, its amazing to me how many guys have used these drugs
we should definately allow posts on them and not demonize them or it will only encourage the less informed to take them with the belief that they are some sort of "secret of the pros"
 
Wulfgar said:
wow, its amazing to me how many guys have used these drugs
we should definately allow posts on them and not demonize them or it will only encourage the less informed to take them with the belief that they are some sort of "secret of the pros"
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I've never taken it and never plan on it. Unless I itch really badly.
 
fuck all those "cool" bb'er lifestyle drugs, bane, G, X, K, any others. they all suck dick. if i knew then what i know now...
 
Champ24 said:
It's really dumb to take nubain, but it's not as addictive as you people are making it out to be. If it were that addicting it would atleast be a controlled substance.
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Really dumb?? How smart is it to do all the shit we do as bodybuilders? And as far as it not being addictive, you're high--there are PLENTY of things that are not "controlled substances" that are highly addictive.
 
drrman said:
i used to say the same thing about GHB bro, but you NEVER know how you will react to somethign in the FUTURE, you might not be addicted now, but it CAN happen even to the MOST NON addictive people in teh world.....i've seen it happen, guys that took a bit once a week for a year, then their wife leaves them or something happens, then its twice a week, then three times, then 5 times a fucking day!

believe me bro, i've been down this road, go back 4 or 5 years and read some of the posts i used to make on GHB defending it, saying if used responsibly it had its place, no way i would abuse it, etc etc........shit changes in life bro, its just best if we as a group on this board do NOT promote the usage, selling, price shopping etc of drugs such as these

here is a good example bro....read what i wrote and thought 5 years ago

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21481&highlight=GHB+drrman



MAN oh MAN i have changed my mind
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Guys that feel their free will can conquer all may eventually learn the hard way that once things become off balance in the brain from using, they'll have much less self control.
 
BigCracker said:
Guys that feel their free will can conquer all may eventually learn the hard way that once things become off balance in the brain from using, they'll have much less self control.
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Cracker speaks the truth hear, Even if you do not have an addictive personality it does not matter because over time it will actually change your brain chemistry at which point youll be screwed. Anyways this issue has been beaten dead by this point. Should discuss it on this board? Sure, no reason not to. People are gonna do what they wanna do.
 
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