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night out on extacy

I am a regular user of MDMA (ecstasy) and I am very thoroughly informed on the subject. I will not condone the use of it, nor will I advocate against it. I can tell you a few things about how it relates to cycling, though.

First off, the primary health risk of using MDMA is liver damage. It is very stressful on the liver, and for that reason it should be avoided while cycling, especially if you are using any 17-aa steroids. Now take this bit of advice for what its worth, folks. I gave myself hepatitis from rolling and shooting winstrol at the same time. I know what I'm talking about when I say you should avoid it when cycling. Unless, of course, you like the yellow look.

Secondly, MDMA has been shown to adversely affect the serotonin production and utilization in the brain. For some people this can be a serious side effect that renders the drug non-usable. For others, it simply means they will feel a little depressed for a couple odf days after rolling. It depends on your particular brain chemistry, as well as your individual ability to cope with your own mood swings. If you cannot handle depression, don't roll. Depression is a part of it. Don't try and tell yourself otherwise.

Also, because of the psychoactive nature of some steroids, the combination of serotonin depletion added to the exisitng mental stress of some steroid cycles can create a very negative mindset in some indidviduals. Again, my advice is to keep MDMA use and steroid cycling separate.

As far as shredding you out for a shoot...yes, it can help accomplish a more ripped look the next day. This is due to the dehydrating effect of all amphetamines. Additionally, you will burn about 2000-3000 calories for every average dosed pill you take. In fact, MDMA had its first medically approved use as a diet drug. For that purpose, it is extremely effective. However, the side effects make it impractical to take on a daily, or even weekly, basis. The truth is, though...I use MDMA before any shoots I have, unless I am in the middle of a winstrol cycle, in which case I avoid MDMA. In the middle of winstrol cycles, I don't really need the help anyway! If you choose to use this drug for that purpose, be aware that you are stressing your liver and kidneys SIGNIFICANTLY. Be CERTAIN to rehydrate as quickly as possible, and make use of the proper liver protectors, especially ALA and calcium D-glucarate. Incidentally, milk thistle is not an effective liver protector. This is a myth that is going to cost some people dearly I'm afraid.

Also, while MDMA is not physically addicting, it certainly can be habit forming. It has the strange effect of making people feel as though it is different from any other drug, like maybe it isn't really habit forming or imposing in one's life. Here's a heads up...ITS A DRUG. Again, I do use it often, so I am not trying to stand on a soapbox here. I'm just telling you that you are fooling yourself if you think MDMA is anything other than a habit forming recreational drug. That is EXACTLY what it is. I know. I've used it for thirteen years.

PEACE
 
ProfessorGains1 said:
does extancy set back your ability to make gains while on the jucie?????? I ate 4 and rolled my ass off. I actually looked more ripped then ever befor when i looked in the mirrior this morning


You deserve a flame. 4 hits of X in one night is STUPID. X is neurotoxic-albeit usually cumulatively but that much at one time is dangerous any way you look at. Also, consider that there isn't exactly "quality control" on illicit drug manufacture.
Im all for fun but that's jeopardizing your personal safety.
 
the MDMA isn't what fucks you up pretty bad when you take X. It's all the other shit that they cut into it that fucks you up. Like herion, coke, and whatever other crap they put into it to make you "feel" better. I've done pure MDMA before. You can eat those pretty much all nite. I wouldn't do it with ones that weren't pure MDMA. You could end up dead.
 
Nautica's Cutting Program

Winny - 50
ECA Stack 5 days a week
GHB 5 days each night before bed
3 - X spread out over 5 hours on a Saturday night.

This will definately rip you to shreads.

I guess this is only a theory though. Since I can not seem to get GHB or X.

Sounds good though.
 
Re: Re: night out on extacy

Your_Moms_Kneepads said:
You deserve a flame. 4 hits of X in one night is STUPID. X is neurotoxic-albeit usually cumulatively but that much at one time is dangerous any way you look at. Also, consider that there isn't exactly "quality control" on illicit drug manufacture.
Im all for fun but that's jeopardizing your personal safety.


why is it stupid... around here the norm for a "good" night is 4-5 pillz.. I don't see anything wrong with 4 hitz... but 4 hitz everyday is another story... 4 hitz a weekend ain't bad as long as it ain't abused..
 
Ryvor said:
the MDMA isn't what fucks you up pretty bad when you take X. It's all the other shit that they cut into it that fucks you up. Like herion, coke, and whatever other crap they put into it to make you "feel" better. I've done pure MDMA before. You can eat those pretty much all nite. I wouldn't do it with ones that weren't pure MDMA. You could end up dead.


There's no heroin in ex... that's just a myth... and if there was .. there wouldn't be enough to fuck you up... same goes for coke in it.. dealers don't want to put in expensive shit to get u fucked up.. they put in the cheapest, most potent thing they can find... such as DXM and strychnine.. little doses of each can fuck you up royally...
 
"X"

As with anything and everything else, if you abuse it, it's gonna yield adverse effects. Ecstasy is a very powerful drug, which should never be taken in conjunction with anabolic steroids. It will severly dehydrate your body, minimizing gains and greatly reducing your appetite. MDMA, the primary constituant of "X", is a derivative of amphetamines. It is not all that harmfull, but one cam seldome get pure MDMA now. The "X" of today is a mixture of anything and everything that will fuck you up. Better to be safe than sorry. If you just have to get fucked up, do COKE.
 
Just for the record: where I live (Copenhagen, Denmark) people are doing 9 hits of e in a night like it's no big deal. Those are the heavy users, of course. I myself find it a fascinating substance, yet the toll of depression afterwards is far too heavy. I was wondering if there's some medication that might counter the serotonine loss, like a short-term zoloft, whatever?
 
crimson coal said:
I use to do coke in a big way. I tried E once and never wanted to do coke again period. E once in a great while now.

True, honestly E is the best drug...when it comes to how you feel..but people get bored of that shit if you do it too much..its like fucking a really fine girl in the same postion for 8 months str8. You get bored of it..so then people turn to other drugs..anyways..

Bro, You looked ripped because MDMA dehydrates you and you piss most of the water all out of your system, plus your not hungry so when you come to, or wake up, you look more ripped than ever...but starvation isn't good for gains...im not going to tell you not to do it...becasue ive done it on a cycle, and for me it was better than drinking...I'm not a fan of ecstacy, but once in a while it won't hinder your gains in one night....just make sure you hit the gym on monday and drink a hell of a lot of protein, and try to eat the next day..(although a cheeseburger is the last thing on mymind while on X) but make sure you dont' make it an everyweekend thing, the for sure you will hinder your gains...i have a freind like that...keep safe
 
Chef said:
I was wondering if there's some medication that might counter the serotonine loss, like a short-term zoloft, whatever?

Yes there is. It's called 5-htp. Take one a day, and it helps balance healthy seretonine levels. It's relatively cheap, you can find it in any supplement stores
 
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