Newbies and first cycles............. Dbol?

[Themachine01]

I have been asked questions lately regarding dbol and first cycles. Im not a fan of dbol, therefore, I tend not to give advice on it, especially regarding dosage. Would you guys feel that 20mg/dbol day for 4 weeks to jump start a cycle be enough to make noticeable gains? I advised yes, so im double checking here.

 

[Silent Method]

Yep, I do.

However, I ussually wouldn't recomend any stack for a first cycle just because I believe it is prudent to assess one's reaction to a single major steroid first. In this way, effects and side effects, which can be quite unique to the user, can be evaluated without the confounding factor of a second drug.

Regardless, 20 mg of d-bol is no joke as far as dosage. Nitrogen retention and subsequent protein synthesis will go through the roof compared to baseline. Great pumps, strength increase, and percieved well being can be expected.

 

[Mini Viper]

Themachine - well, I've read alot of threads about using dbol to kickstart cycles, and its usually between 20mg-30mg (but some go as high as 40mg) per day for first 3-4 weeks to jumpstart.

So yes,its good bro.

 

[Themachine01]

I figured that the lighter the better since it is a first cycle and also a stack, the one indivisual I am reffering to is gonna stack with 500mg/wk omnas. Hes a big boy so I think it will be a great first cycle.

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

Yes, IMO, first time cycle will see results in 4 weeks @ 20mg.
Good Dbol will be effective @ 20mg a day for four weeks.

I would still add test depending on what I was trying to do. Sust250 a week is a lower dosage for 8 weeks adding the dbol @ 20-30mg the first 4 weeks. This should make substantial increases in weight and strength if the person works out and eats good.

It depends on the person and their goals what they decide to use. Dbol and sust250 is a favorite for many 1st timrs.

 

[Themachine01]

Thats what he is doing sh4dow, 500mg/wk omnas, same as sust. I think he will love it.

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

Man, if he is doing sust @ 500mg wk and 4 weeks of dbol @ 20mg he should see nice gains in strength and mass. As long as he works out and eats alot. Keep us posted on how this goes for him...it should go well.

 

[JKerry]

dbol at 20mgs gives me puffy nips , make sure he watches that.

jkerry

 

[Themachine01]

does the puffyness go away for you once the dbol is stopped? he has some chest fat already, but he'll be running ldex throughout.

 

[The Terminator]

Dbol at 20 mg/day gives me nice strength and weight gain. However anything above that dosage tends to make me feel rather ill...

 

[Themachine01]

Here is something else......

He asked if he could run the dbol one week prior to starting the test, theresore running the dbol for 5 weeks at 20mg/day. Reason being, he wants to see how he reacts to the one drug alone before adding the other, also judging if 20mg is too much or too little. I advised just to start them both at the same time, but now that I think about it, I guess it wouldnt hurt to have him run the dbol alone for the first 7 days.

 

[JKerry]

He asked if he could run the dbol one week prior to starting the test, theresore running the dbol for 5 weeks at 20mg/day. Reason being, he wants to see how he reacts to the one drug alone before adding the other, also judging if 20mg is too much or too little. I advised just to start them both at the same time, but now that I think about it, I guess it wouldnt hurt to have him run the dbol alone for the first 7 days.

personally i think that's a GREAT idea. i always introduce sauce that i havne't used before one at a time before stacking. thay way i can get a better idea how each individual chemical affects me.

jkerry

 

[malice]

personally, i started out at 15mg/ed then slowly jumped up to 20, 25, etc etc. i stopped at 6 weeks at 35mg/ed and noticed a big jump in strength. ive seen users on ef report using up to 50-60mg ed

 

[Themachine01]

bump

 

[GUNZ-007]

I think he would see good gains off of 20 mgs/day w/ 500 mgs of omna. I do not think that I would go lower than 20 mgs/day. Starting the d-bol 1 week early won't hurt IMO, actually does not sound like a bad idea. He can run the d-bol 5-6 weeks no problem. He may want to stack the omnas injections on 3-4 days apart. hope he has good luck on this, should be some nice gains.

 

[canadianhitman]

20mg/day is perfect to jump-start a cycle.

 

[Silent Method]

He asked if he could run the dbol one week prior to starting the test, theresore running the dbol for 5 weeks at 20mg/day. Reason being, he wants to see how he reacts to the one drug alone before adding the other, also judging if 20mg is too much or too little.

I think this is fine, but he must keep in mind that one short week with d-bol alone will not tell him how his body is reacting specifically to that drug several weeks later.

If he wants to know how it feels, I'd say run the bol for 2 weeks before starting the sust. Run it for 5 weeks, ending right when the noticable test effects will begin.

 

[Hungry]

I am currently running this exact stack as my first cycle. I am running 25mg of dbol ed for 6 weeks, and 500mg of sust for 10 weeks. I am in the middle of week 5 and I am simply amazed. My bench has gone up 40 pounds in the 5 weeks, and I am feeling great. I am also running .5 liquidex eod for the duration of the cycle... no signs of gyno at all. My dumbell curls have gone up 15lb in the 5 weeks as well. I am so anxious to see how the remainder of my cycle goes. I would definitely recommend this cycle for a first!

 

[papucho]

I am currently running this exact stack as my first cycle. I am running 25mg of dbol ed for 6 weeks, and 500mg of sust for 10 weeks. I am in the middle of week 5 and I am simply amazed. My bench has gone up 40 pounds in the 5 weeks, and I am feeling great. I am also running .5 liquidex eod for the duration of the cycle... no signs of gyno at all. My dumbell curls have gone up 15lb in the 5 weeks as well. I am so anxious to see how the remainder of my cycle goes. I would definitely recommend this cycle for a first!

How often are you shooting Sost?