Newbie Question- need help boys

[rajbtor]

First off, let me start off by saying, this is one of the best forums for roids on the internet. People are respectful and nice, and good you good advice.

Stats: 23.5 yrs old, 204-5 pounds, around 6'1, training for 4 years now.

My goal is to bulk up, and get to around 220, in addition, cutting down my body fat. I do have a little bit of a stomach, but it fluxuates.

Im starting on Sustanon soon. I have been researching for years, and have done up and down about the use, but for the last 6 months or so, I am convinced.

So basically this is my plan from my research. I am planning to take 250mg for the first 3-4 weeks. Then later on move up to around 500mg/ week. From my research, you only need to take anti-estrogens when you reach up to around 1000mg/ week (like Nolvadex, or proviron). Then I guess towards the end of the cycle, I need to get on some HCG or Clomid.

BUt for now, taking these anti-e's, they are not necessary right?

Also, Im taking lower doses to see how it reacts with my body. After my first cycle, when I start my second, I will stack with Anadrol or D-bol or winstrol.


Do you guys think I am on the right track? As far as just decreasing my body fat, and taking the small amounts of fat from my mid-section, I wonder if over the counter stuff like hydroxy cut, or stuff like that might help...

What do you think guys? Am I good?

Thanks in advance.

 

[EricG]

You might loose a little bit of fat, but gaining 15 pounds on LBM and droping a few BF% even with a perfect diet would be pretty hard.

Second, you should have Nolvadex on hand, some people start having gyno symptoms on 250 of test, better be safe then sorry. Clomid or Nolvadex for PCT is a personal choice although most seem to be in favour of Nolva for a test cycle.

Dont need to up the dose midway, just run the same dose throughout.

PCT is very important, i would go 40/40/20/20 with nolva, plus pick up some Alpha sustain. Going to be using it for my upcoming pct so cant attest to it myself but have only herd good things for it.

Most importantly what does your diet look like, this will be the major player in how much you grow. And what suplements will you be using.

-Eric

 

[rajbtor]

thanks for the advice eric.

I think I am going to take your advice and have some nolvadex on hand just in case.

My diet is kinda weird because of some cultural issues. So I dont eat any beef at all, and on mon's/ tues's I dont eat meat at all. The rest of the days I am allowed to eat whatever (except for beef as mentioned)

Other than that, I am having at least 250-300 grms of protein a day, I wasnt counting calories but I have been starting the last two weeks. The diet is gonna be around 40% carbs, 40% protein and 20% fat.

As far as supplementation, I am looking at:

Glutamine, maybe creatine (i hate that crap because I bloat the hell up), multi vits, keep a meal replacement/ weight gainer supplement on hand just incase, obviously protein shakes and some natural testosterone boosters with milk thistle.


My diet is basically, every 3-4 hours eating, with at least 3 big meals a day, try to add in another one.


Also if I dont jump up in doses, I was wondering if I should start at 500mg a week then?

 

[needtogetaas]

First off, let me start off by saying, this is one of the best forums for roids on the internet. People are respectful and nice, and good you good advice.

Stats: 23.5 yrs old, 204-5 pounds, around 6'1, training for 4 years now.

My goal is to bulk up, and get to around 220, in addition, cutting down my body fat. I do have a little bit of a stomach, but it fluxuates.

Im starting on Sustanon soon. I have been researching for years, and have done up and down about the use, but for the last 6 months or so, I am convinced.

So basically this is my plan from my research. I am planning to take 250mg for the first 3-4 weeks. Then later on move up to around 500mg/ week. From my research, you only need to take anti-estrogens when you reach up to around 1000mg/ week (like Nolvadex, or proviron). Then I guess towards the end of the cycle, I need to get on some HCG or Clomid.

BUt for now, taking these anti-e's, they are not necessary right?

Also, Im taking lower doses to see how it reacts with my body. After my first cycle, when I start my second, I will stack with Anadrol or D-bol or winstrol.


Do you guys think I am on the right track? As far as just decreasing my body fat, and taking the small amounts of fat from my mid-section, I wonder if over the counter stuff like hydroxy cut, or stuff like that might help...

What do you think guys? Am I good?

Thanks in advance.

Stick to one dose. The lowest you can get away with is always best. So 250mg ew for 10 weeks is fine. Always have adex,letro, other ai's on hand before you start a cycle. Never start a cycle till you have a planed pct in place and everything for it in hand.

Pct 500iu's hcg ew threw out cycle. 2 weeks after cycle use sustain alpha 5 pumps ed for 4 weeks. Some like to add 25mg clomid ed to that and others like to add posctcycle and or unleashed. Main thing is to have it planed and have it all in hand before you start.

 

[splperformance]

Stick to one dose. The lowest you can get away with is always best. So 250mg ew for 10 weeks is fine. Always have adex,letro, other ai's on hand before you start a cycle. Never start a cycle till you have a planed pct in place and everything for it in hand.

Pct 500iu's hcg ew threw out cycle. 2 weeks after cycle use sustain alpha 5 pumps ed for 4 weeks. Some like to add 25mg clomid ed to that and others like to add posctcycle and or unleashed. Main thing is to have it planed and have it all in hand before you start.

+1

and no need to pyramid...stick to one dose and call it a day...and like needto said, have everything on hand prior to your first stick...as far as gyno goes, some guys take 250mgs of test EW and get gyno and some guys take 1000mgs EW with nothing...me personally...doesn't matter what test i take or how much i take, i get no sides minus a tiny bit of acne just like i never crash post cycle either (pct or not but i do like my nuts growing back lol)...but i luck out unlike most people...so it's always better to be safe than sorry