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Newbie Question... Dont yell at me lol

infuct

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im currently on my first cycle of test only (15 weeks) 500mg a week

by reading im sensing that its a concesus pick for a good basic first cycle..

now for my pct i got clomid only... will this be enough? im reading alot about HCG and nolva, and im wondering if i can get away without it? or its a must..

what are the sides of not using HCG and clomid only?... if any..

sorry if this is a bad question for u all, ignore if so.
 
Clomid sucks. HCG will further inhibit the HPTA post cycle, but it can maintain testicular size during the cycle. Get some letrozole from Ancillary guys for your post cycle HPTA recovery.
 
Are you using any liquidex? Some may differ but the general response to a first cycle is test E at 500 for 10 weeks. Why did you decide to run it 15?
 
And why such a long cycle your first time out? Do you know when you're supposed to administer the HCG, Clomid and Nolva? Or that you'll be on for 17 weeks total?
 
swearingen said:
Clomid sucks. HCG will further inhibit the HPTA post cycle, but it can maintain testicular size during the cycle. Get some letrozole from Ancillary guys for your post cycle HPTA recovery.
Letrozole is NOT for PCT.

Can use it during your cycle as an aromitise inhibitor, but after your cycle it will have little or no effect in helping restore your body's normal testosterone production.

Infuct,

You'll be fine with Clomid only for your PCT, but if you can add HCG for the last two wks of your cycle and continue two wks after your last shot it will help.

Two weeks after your last shot of test start the clomid at 100mg ed along with 40mg Nolva. Do this for three wks then drop the clomid to 50mg and Nolva to 20 for a wk.

Opinions will differ on PCT, but this works for me.
 
Two weeks after your last shot of test start the clomid at 100mg ed along with 40mg Nolva. Do this for three wks then drop the clomid to 50mg and Nolva to 20 for a wk.

thats excately what im doin as of right now... but everyone is suggesting the HCG, just thought id get some opinions being my first cycle and all..

also going with the 15 weeks instead of 12 because thats how much gear i have, i heard the 3 week difference isnt much of a factor... unless thats another thing i have been told is wrong?
 
infuct said:
Two weeks after your last shot of test start the clomid at 100mg ed along with 40mg Nolva. Do this for three wks then drop the clomid to 50mg and Nolva to 20 for a wk.

thats excately what im doin as of right now... but everyone is suggesting the HCG, just thought id get some opinions being my first cycle and all..

also going with the 15 weeks instead of 12 because thats how much gear i have, i heard the 3 week difference isnt much of a factor... unless thats another thing i have been told is wrong?

I think you COULD go that long but for your first time out I would go with the standard 10-12 weeks. The speedometer on my car goes up to 180 but I don't go that fast. In other words No need to use up your gear just because you have it. See how your body reacts first and then use it for another cycle down the road when you maybe add EQ oe DECA or some other compound.
 
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