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Newbie needs help on setting up cycle.

phr3ak

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Let me start off first saying how great this board is. there is a lot of good information that is provided by fellow members. so i figure a few of you could help me out with some suggestions on a beginner cycle.

i'm getting 10cc of deca and 10cc of sustanon 250. what i want to know is how to setup up this cycle: how to start, which to start with, and how to finish it off, etc. any suggestions would be a tremendous help. what would be a good estrogen blocker to finish off the cycle, also?
 
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you need PCT, you need more test you need more deca, you should run each 8-10weeks, at 500mg sust and 400mg deca(maybe since its you first you could do 400sust and 300deca) but i wouldnt go lower than that.. newbie or not, still your test mg should be higher than deca, to avoid deca dick,(its only a temporary thing but still a pain in the ass) you need some clomid to fight that and nolvadex for PCT, those are both long acting esters and you wont see much from them till at least the 3rd week, invest in 4weeks of Dbol, or even a bottle of prop to kick start it off...so.. like i was saying

400mg deca week 1-10(taper down lil towrd the end but thats just me...)
500mg sust week 1-10(taper down a little towrd the end but thats just me...)
*test prop 300mg week 1-4, or Dbol 20mg(cus your a newbie) week 1-4
clomid/nolvadex for 3-4weeks, start about 2weeks after last shot... maybe sooner cus deca...
gluck
 
wayneboard1 said:
for your first cycle I would only do test at 500 a week for 10 weeks. You need to see how you react to that before adding other gear.
.....YES! Test ONLY! Save the Deca for cycle #2. Good luck!
 
if i do the test at 500mg a week, i'll only have enough for 5 weeks. unless there was a miscommunication and i'm getting 20cc's of each (i'll find out later tonight). if i'm only getting 10cc's of each, what should i do?

for pct...clomid and nolvadex seem to be the most popular. how much should i get and how much should i take? the liquids are taken orally, right? (stupid question...sorry).

thanks
 
pretty much any way you look at it you'll need another 10ml of test. you could just do a test run at 500/week or deca 300/wk and 500 test/week. it's simple, not too hard just go with it and feel it out and see what you like.
 
There is nothing wrong with what you have. Keep it simple.

1cc or Deca and 1cc of Test per week x 10 weeks. Take 1/2 cc of each and inject 2x per week.


For a first cycle, 500mg of AA is a good dose. High enough that you should see results but no so high that any side effects from Deca or Test are amplified.

Run pct with Nolvadex and/or Clomid.
 
phr3ak said:
if i do the test at 500mg a week, i'll only have enough for 5 weeks. unless there was a miscommunication and i'm getting 20cc's of each (i'll find out later tonight). if i'm only getting 10cc's of each, what should i do?

for pct...clomid and nolvadex seem to be the most popular. how much should i get and how much should i take? the liquids are taken orally, right? (stupid question...sorry).

thanks

Good luck with your cycle. DO NOT start your cycle until you have you pct in hand!
 
Trust these guys knowledge man. No PCT, NO CYCLE! You will crash and lose alot of gains, along with your dinky-do.

Good luck and let us know how you make out.
 
phr3ak said:
thanks guys. i appreciate the help.

i'm just not sure how much clomid and nolvadex to get. any suggestions?

If you go to the PCT forum and read Jenetics sticky on the proper way to run PCT, then you will see the duration you would need, daily dose and you can figure it up yourself as to how much of what you would need to buy.
 
u should try to get more test and save the decca for next go round. if u havent gotta the gear yet just get 2 vials of test instead. btw what brand are u using and what kinda test is it.
 
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