newbie needs advice

[Illini22]

Hello, and thanks for reading my post.

I'm a 20 year old male, 6'1", 190lbs and best described as a moderate weight lifter. Lately I've been getting more serious with working out and am looking to start a cycle of Winstrol. From what I've gathered 50mg/day every day is the effective dosage...and other than that I have found scattered information.

I'll state my intended goals and then I'll turn it over to your advice to help guide me. My number one goal is to become more cut, bulking is secondary ( I'm looking to add no more than 15-25lbs of weight). I've heard that long cycles of Winstrol - stanozolol are bad for your liver, so I'm also hoping to keep it short, 4 weeks or so. I'm a college student so I have the rest of the summer, but when I get back to school its going to be hard to stay away from the booze, so I'm looking to start in the next few weeks.

If you have any advice/wisdom as to what else I should take, proper dosage, number of weeks, PCT - post cycle therapy - , diet, certain exercises I should/should not be doing, **side effects**(changes in mood??), or ANY ADVICE?EXPERIENCE that you feel would help, I am all ears.

Again, thanks for reading my post.

 

[sanks086]

Hey,
Judging from your post, it really doesnt seem like you are ready to start using any sort of gear. Your best bet is to train hard for a couple years, eat right, and then consider using gear. Your only 20 years old, your body is already plenty of androgens on its own, and by using a "winny-only" cycle, you have the potential to do some serious damage to your body, damage that you may regret for the rest of your life. Thats my two cents, take it or leave it.
cheers.

 

[disturbed311]

Hey,
Judging from your post, it really doesnt seem like you are ready to start using any sort of gear. Your best bet is to train hard for a couple years, eat right, and then consider using gear. Your only 20 years old, your body is already plenty of androgens on its own, and by using a "Winstrol - stanozolol-only" cycle, you have the potential to do some serious damage to your body, damage that you may regret for the rest of your life. Thats my two cents, take it or leave it.
cheers.

Totally Agree........ But if you do, Then you probably need to add a low dose of Test in there.. Say 300mg/wk of Test Enanthate, EQ 500mg/wk, And winstrol 50mg/day... run the Test and EQ for 12 or 15(better) weeks and the winstrol the last 4 weeks to harden up your gains.. But like he said don't make make a mistake on takin shit early just because your eager... I wish i would have waited.. Make sure you REALLY AND TRULY research about proper training and PROPER DIET.. get those in check for a year or two and make nice gains, then think about it.... Good LUck

 

[NickyE3]

too young. wait a few years

 

[Illini22]

thanks for the advice, i will indeed be waiting.

 

[ElMatador]

too young. wait a few years

absolutely good advice!

 

[xrsist]

thanks for the advice, i will indeed be waiting.

i wonder if he is going to wait..

 

[! RUSSIAN BEAR !]

i wonder if he is going to wait..

$50 i bet he won't

 

[Nelson Montana]

These are the kind of guys the media love to use as examples of the "rampant steroid epidemic." These are NOT recreactional drugs! They're very powerful and potentially dangerous compounds which should be used in moderation only by advanced athletes who are knowlegable in their application. Wait. Learn. Keep lifting.

 

[! RUSSIAN BEAR !]

These are the kind of guys the media love to use as examples of the "rampant steroid epidemic." These are NOT recreactional drugs! They're very powerful and potentially dangerous compounds which should be used in moderation only by advanced athletes who are knowlegable in their application. Wait. Learn. Keep lifting.

that's a very good point

 

[Illini22]

I am going to wait a couple of years, it sounds like everyone here says its the right thing and everyone here knows a lot more about it than I do.

 

[BIGBUCK$]

I am going to wait a couple of years, it sounds like everyone here says its the right thing and everyone here knows a lot more about it than I do.

smart move bro

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

WOW holy shit...Good move my hat off to you.
If i were to break down what you said i would make this assumption. You did a few mins of reading and saw winni doesnt convert to estrogen and no bitch tits etc. It comes in pill form so you dont have to shoot..so you feel its the best choice. When in reality you wont meet your goals by doing winni alone. It makes a better "finishing" drug.
You are so young and your big for your age. Get on a top notch diet keep your cals and protein high and you will put on a shit load of weight in a couple year period. Add some Muscle Milk shakes in your diet for some healthy fat and let the gaining begin.

 

[lilj888]

i think this kids done some research and he came here for advice which is another good thing. because half the kids i know just take steroids and dont know wtf there doing. i dunno how you can read his post and automatically say he isnt ready for steroids, ultimately its his decision so try to give him advice both ways, im not
entysing him to take roids nor am i saying he should, but sometimes it pisses me off to see u guys say ur not ready to take roids yet, and then say oh ya u need to take test with it to for 12 weeks(if you read correctly he starts school soon and he doesnt want to be on roids cuz he will be drinking) and you dont need test for every freakn cycle especially a first cycle, and one dude is saying its a bad idea but if your going to take winstrol also take test and eq when all the dude wants to take is winstrol and thats way worse then just winstrol

 

[digger]

i think this kids done some research and he came here for advice which is another good thing. because half the kids i know just take steroids and dont know wtf there doing. i dunno how you can read his post and automatically say he isnt ready for steroids,

Because of the part where he says he's 20.

Yammer about "personal responsibility" and "it's his choice" all you want. It doesn't change the facts. Seventeen or eighteen are not up for discussion. Around 23 you might get your levels checked and see where you are on the curve -- PROVIDED that you've been eating and pumping the way you should have been. Once you have built the foundation, maybe you're ready to kick it up a notch at that age. But at 20 or 21? Playa, please.

A 20-year-old needs to be eating and pumping iron. If you're doing that, you are growing as fast as you can. You don't need additional test to turn meat back into muscle and make it stick to your bones.

If you want your pee to be full of something expensive, you can buy a better brand of beer.