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Newbie ? Hey, u were once 2!!

Whassup guys, this week i begin my first cycle, (fuck yeah!), with hgh and winny. From the consensus of this board, I've learned that 50mg ed of winny should be sufficient. My main goals are to gain 10-15 pounds of muscle and lose 10% body fat.

THANK YOU FOR ANY INFO THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO SUPPLY.

I AM MORE CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING SHREDDED THAN HUGE

My ?'s are:

Hom much hgh and when is the best time to adminster? before/after workout etc..?

What % of protein/carbs/fat is ideal?

Best places to stick? Has anyone had better results with sticking directly into the muscle(s) that will be worked out that day?

Should i go 6 or 8 weeks? I plan on drinking alcohol twice during this cycle how bad is this and/or will milk thistle be enough?

Lastly, how much water do i need to drink.

If you think of anything else, don't hesitate. thanks again.

bloopsnlate
 
Are you serious bro????? Your running GH and don't even have a diet or know how to inject yet!!! :chomp: 6-8 weeks? Are you shitting me?
For the love of all that is pure and holy, do some more research before you end up fucking yourself up.

Please

:Chef: :tuc:
 
I think it will be pretty hard to put on 10-15lbs of muscle in 6-8 weeks on that cycle. What made you decide to go HGH and winny?
 
bloopsnlate said:
Whassup guys, this week i begin my first cycle, (fuck yeah!), with hgh and winny. From the consensus of this board, I've learned that 50mg ed of winny should be sufficient. My main goals are to gain 10-15 pounds of muscle and lose 10% body fat.
HGH when your 21!! you crazy!

THANK YOU FOR ANY INFO THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO SUPPLY.

I AM MORE CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING SHREDDED THAN HUGE

My ?'s are:

Hom much hgh and when is the best time to adminster? before/after workout etc..?
0 IU's
What % of protein/carbs/fat is ideal?
aren't you suppose to have figured this out before startig the cycle?
Best places to stick? Has anyone had better results with sticking directly into the muscle(s) that will be worked out that day?

Should i go 6 or 8 weeks? I plan on drinking alcohol twice during this cycle how bad is this and/or will milk thistle be enough?

Lastly, how much water do i need to drink.

If you think of anything else, don't hesitate. thanks again.

bloopsnlate

first of all your 21... yes i did my first this past spring at 22, but i had 9 years of lifting under me.. what are your stats bro?
 
bloopsnlate said:
Whassup guys, this week i begin my first cycle, (fuck yeah!), with hgh and winny. From the consensus of this board, I've learned that 50mg ed of winny should be sufficient. My main goals are to gain 10-15 pounds of muscle and lose 10% body fat.

THANK YOU FOR ANY INFO THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO SUPPLY.

I AM MORE CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING SHREDDED THAN HUGE

My ?'s are:

Hom much hgh and when is the best time to adminster? before/after workout etc..?

What % of protein/carbs/fat is ideal?



Best places to stick? Has anyone had better results with sticking directly into the muscle(s) that will be worked out that day?

Should i go 6 or 8 weeks? I plan on drinking alcohol twice during this cycle how bad is this and/or will milk thistle be enough?

Lastly, how much water do i need to drink.

If you think of anything else, don't hesitate. thanks again.

bloopsnlate


Read through previous posts all your Q's have already been answered.
Again before you do a thing read read read! You'll be happy in the end that you did!! Good Luck!
 
You are essentially asking for an ENTIRE body change! (15lbs of muscle with a 10% decrease in BF)

Learn how to EAT and TRAIN.

Then learn some more...

And more.....

And more..
 
I have a diet, and have read a shitload. I have a prescription for anything i want. This was suggested to me from my friend who got me the prescription.

I have a diet, been working out for a 5 years now, but i was interested in what,if any, changes?

What do you mean by stats?
 
:rolleyes: This is why I don't come on here as much anymore. Not having knowledge about a subject is one thing, lack of common sense is another.
 
bloopsnlate said:
Whassup guys, this week i begin my first cycle, (fuck yeah!), with hgh and winny. From the consensus of this board, I've learned that 50mg ed of winny should be sufficient. My main goals are to gain 10-15 pounds of muscle and lose 10% body fat.

THANK YOU FOR ANY INFO THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO SUPPLY.

I AM MORE CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING SHREDDED THAN HUGE

My ?'s are:

Hom much hgh and when is the best time to adminster? before/after workout etc..?

What % of protein/carbs/fat is ideal?

Best places to stick? Has anyone had better results with sticking directly into the muscle(s) that will be worked out that day?

Should i go 6 or 8 weeks? I plan on drinking alcohol twice during this cycle how bad is this and/or will milk thistle be enough?

Lastly, how much water do i need to drink.

If you think of anything else, don't hesitate. thanks again.

bloopsnlate


As the bros said educate & research !!!!!
 
bloopsnlate said:
I have a diet, and have read a shitload. I have a prescription for anything i want. This was suggested to me from my friend who got me the prescription.

I have a diet, been working out for a 5 years now, but i was interested in what,if any, changes?

What do you mean by stats?


You have not in fact read a "shitload" as you put it. I know this because if you had read posts and threads here for a mere 30 minutes you would of know what stats are, known that "having a diet" obviously means you don't, known that you need to drink at least a gallon of water on most if not all gear each day, that doing gear means the best thing to do is not drink alcohol PERIOID, and doing HGH at age 21.....seriously man, you have obviously not read squat. You would of had all your answers by doing a search. There are a ton of guys on here that will help you as they helped me but come to the table with something.
 
Best places to stick? Has anyone had better results with sticking directly into the muscle(s) that will be worked out that day?

I plan on drinking alcohol twice during this cycle how bad is this and/or will milk thistle be enough?

What % of protein/carbs/fat is ideal?

My main goals are to gain 10-15 pounds of muscle and lose 10% body fat.

Should i go 6 or 8 weeks?


Questions like these, you should expect responses like these..
 
wayneboard1 said:
You don't need any gear, HGH or otherwise. You need to eat better and do a ton of cardio. PERIOD.
He needs to inject his HGH into to his fucking brain. Obviously that spot needs a little help!
 
chefbone said:
He needs to inject his HGH into to his fucking brain. Obviously that spot needs a little help!

I hear that you can inject HGH into your pecker and make it bigger. Is this true?






















Marino still sucks. :p
 
Now commonn.. thats a little harsh.. remember he was confused about whether to inject into muscle or not.. might confuse him even more..
 
wayneboard1 said:
I hear that you can inject HGH into your pecker and make it bigger. Is this true?
Marino still sucks. :p


DIE AND MAY YOU BURN IN HELL LIKE A DRY TOWEL OVER AND OPEN FLAME SOAKED IN GASOLINE

:Chef: :tuc:
 
I'm not 21... i'm 25 not that it makes alot of difference.

obviously getting trashed on this board. Where do i start researching more... then?

and monster fuck off frenchy, way tanner than you bro.
 
bloopsnlate said:
I'm not 21... i'm 25 not that it makes alot of difference.

obviously getting trashed on this board. Where do i start researching more... then?

and monster fuck off frenchy, way tanner than you bro.
Plat searches dude, and my bro is not French he just lives there! :Chef: :tuc:
 
bloopsnlate said:
I'm not 21... i'm 25 not that it makes alot of difference.

obviously getting trashed on this board. Where do i start researching more... then?

and monster fuck off frenchy, way tanner than you bro.

Since you are a platinum member you have a great tool at your fingertips and it is the search function. Go to the search tool and enter things in such as "water, or alcohol and gear, or HGH, or HGH injections", etc, etc. Whatever you want to know about, type it in the search funtion and this will GREATLY expand your knowledge. If you read some information and you do not understand something, or if a concept you have read about doesn't add up, then maybe a post or a PM to a respected member/vet is in order. I would encourage you to read the stickies in the PCT forum as they are very valuable knowledge. FYI, DO NOT PM ANYONE ABOUT ANYTHING SOURCE RELATED. That is a BIG nono and you could very well get banned.
 
Dearest brotheren Bloopsnlate,

My advice to you is first, get your diet right.. You may think it's OK to take the juice now, BUT in this case, you are going to make yourself worse off. I know that you've probably been put off by this thread now, and are like fuck elite fitness, I'm going to just go do this on my own and figure it out.. WRONG.. don't do this.. Stick around, and read.. There is no better research out there besides on this board. I know your entrance was harsh.. But these questions deam harsh responses. Yes we were all newbs once, and we received the same criticism, some more than others. If you are going to just go do the shit now and say fuck Elite, which I would think someone whos 21 would go do. Once like many moons ago I did. At least run some test.. on low dose.. But I'm not recommending anything..

Importantly, at that bodyfat, juice is not the answer.. YET.. I'm not saying you'll never be ready for some sauce.. But you have to listen, and realize that there are essentials for becoming ready to jump on. There are plenty of sites that teach you how to inject, and proper placement. I learned from a nurse who I personally had known. She helped me out with the first few, and then showed me the proper way and sent me on my way. Since then I feel like a pro. Anyways, your diet is important.. At 175, you need to grow naturally. I would give anything to be at 175 and have the chance to restard and pack on as much muscle as possible through eating right. But I started the other way around.. at like 250.. and I juiced.. and you know what that got me.. 275.. strong as fuck, and fatter.. and now I'm paying for it trying to lose all this extra pounds that it got me from eating pizza's and drinking.. thats another thing.. drinking.. you will have to sacrifice this for juicing.. If it's too hard, don't juice.. until you decide that you don't need alcohol twice a week.. It's a rough commitment, but after a cycle, drink away your gains if you please.. but it's just going to fuck you up more if you drink during a cycle. Not recommended..

These are not miracle drugs... You would get stronger, and put on some muscle, but shit son.. I could put on 20 lbs without juice at 175 if I had a little fire in my pants.. Rethink your options.. and keep doing research.. You'll be 20 times smarter on the topic if you sit on here for a while each day and read threads.. and you'll also notice the trend with newbies, coming in here, asking the same thing.. You'll see that what was said to you in your case, is said to all in all cases, concerning improper diet.. etc.. You have lifted for 5 years, so what.. we all have mostly.. Just do the research, and study, and learn, get educated.. then cycle..

That's all
 
whoa whoa whoa.. Je suis Americain! Damn bro.. that was just a joke.. i do hope you fucking take a shot of hgh in the brain.. maybe your head will get a little bigger as well


Damn guys.. do I need to change my flag back to the American flag, where I normally live 12 months out of the year.. I mean shit.. I just wanted to give a general idea of where I was living.. I don't know.. I'm a fuckin frenchie though now i guess.. I'm one big fuckin frenchie
 
monsterMMF said:
Dearest brotheren Bloopsnlate,

My advice to you is first, get your diet right.. You may think it's OK to take the juice now, BUT in this case, you are going to make yourself worse off. I know that you've probably been put off by this thread now, and are like fuck elite fitness, I'm going to just go do this on my own and figure it out.. WRONG.. don't do this.. Stick around, and read.. There is no better research out there besides on this board. I know your entrance was harsh.. But these questions deam harsh responses. Yes we were all newbs once, and we received the same criticism, some more than others. If you are going to just go do the shit now and say fuck Elite, which I would think someone whos 21 would go do. Once like many moons ago I did. At least run some test.. on low dose.. But I'm not recommending anything..

Importantly, at that bodyfat, juice is not the answer.. YET.. I'm not saying you'll never be ready for some sauce.. But you have to listen, and realize that there are essentials for becoming ready to jump on. There are plenty of sites that teach you how to inject, and proper placement. I learned from a nurse who I personally had known. She helped me out with the first few, and then showed me the proper way and sent me on my way. Since then I feel like a pro. Anyways, your diet is important.. At 175, you need to grow naturally. I would give anything to be at 175 and have the chance to restard and pack on as much muscle as possible through eating right. But I started the other way around.. at like 250.. and I juiced.. and you know what that got me.. 275.. strong as fuck, and fatter.. and now I'm paying for it trying to lose all this extra pounds that it got me from eating pizza's and drinking.. thats another thing.. drinking.. you will have to sacrifice this for juicing.. If it's too hard, don't juice.. until you decide that you don't need alcohol twice a week.. It's a rough commitment, but after a cycle, drink away your gains if you please.. but it's just going to fuck you up more if you drink during a cycle. Not recommended..

These are not miracle drugs... You would get stronger, and put on some muscle, but shit son.. I could put on 20 lbs without juice at 175 if I had a little fire in my pants.. Rethink your options.. and keep doing research.. You'll be 20 times smarter on the topic if you sit on here for a while each day and read threads.. and you'll also notice the trend with newbies, coming in here, asking the same thing.. You'll see that what was said to you in your case, is said to all in all cases, concerning improper diet.. etc.. You have lifted for 5 years, so what.. we all have mostly.. Just do the research, and study, and learn, get educated.. then cycle..

That's all


I must spread karma around before giving it to monster again.
 
ok, i'll start there, through the search button. What is source related mean, i already have a source(where i get my shit i'm guessing) and it's legal.

thanks again, obviously brand new to the game, but motivated to learn.

take care.
 
monsterMMF said:
restard... damn im in grad school and still can't spell.. it's the fucking french wearing off on me


Gotta watch out for those french. Don't want those people wearing off on ya.
 
Hey monster, sorry for the insult, i speak spanish and italian but for some reason every parisian thought i should have spoken french. Had a terrible time in paris!!

I appreciate the long thread immensely.Some good solid advice in there. By the way i'm 25, not 21. I have a friend who sells everything known to man, his knowledge is deep, im sure. I will ask him every ? in the book, that i know, and will learn the rest from reading through this site.

Hey everybody has to start somewhere, and bashing newbies is kinda of ridiculous. I mean when you where in school did the teacher lash out on you for not knowing where Japan was? etc... Of course not! This is just a different kind of school.

Remember these people that pay to become a platinum member, have something in common with all of you. And i felt that this was the best way to become educated ann truly learn.

WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. To bellitle seems to me inappropriate.
 
Bloops mate you def have made the right decision, nobody wants to belittle people on here but i think you should have looked before you leap anyways you are in the right place to learn just soak it up bro and next time you will have everything dialed.
 
sorry about your age too.. i was going by a previous post.. guess I should of done my research.. glad you understood though.. I wish I had plat status.. another couple weeks.. once I get back to the states and get some money flowing back into my pocket, rather than flowing out..

Nice is way better than Paris.. Parisians are rude.. Nice is laid back.. Still french, but laid back
 
haha I live in Nice bro.. My studio overlooks the Port.. St. Tropez is hoppin.. I've been all around, but mostly stick to here.. Just because of school and the 4 and a half hours a day thing.. By the time I get done working out, It doesn't leave me much time, except on weekends.
 
bloopsnlate said:
Hey monster, sorry for the insult, i speak spanish and italian but for some reason every parisian thought i should have spoken french. Had a terrible time in paris!!

I appreciate the long thread immensely.Some good solid advice in there. By the way i'm 25, not 21. I have a friend who sells everything known to man, his knowledge is deep, im sure. I will ask him every ? in the book, that i know, and will learn the rest from reading through this site.

Hey everybody has to start somewhere, and bashing newbies is kinda of ridiculous. I mean when you where in school did the teacher lash out on you for not knowing where Japan was? etc... Of course not! This is just a different kind of school.

Remember these people that pay to become a platinum member, have something in common with all of you. And i felt that this was the best way to become educated ann truly learn.

WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. To bellitle seems to me inappropriate.


If a 2nd grader doesn't know where Japan is, OK, you are not a second grader you are 25. And even if you didn't know where Japan was, why not look at the map yourself? Or you could just wander the streets of downtown New York asking people to tell you where Japan is. This is a place of learning yes, but not a place to be spoonfed. You caught some heat because you didn't take any steps yourself to learn first. You came here and just expected to have everyone do the leg work for you. We are all new, and depending on the topic I am brand new. The difference is that I take the initiative to either look for info myself, or ask where I can educate myself. Does your mommy still cut you meat for you? I doubt she does because you are a big boy now. You have been told where to learn and how to learn, now go forth and do so.
 
If someone is recommending winstrol to you at 20% body fat, do yourself a favor and find someone else to get advice from. You will get zero results from winny at that percentage.

On the flipside, I would highly recommend clen from ag-guys, it's the new EF crack.
 
stuck, i got my body fat test done today and it was 13%, thats much better than 20. What do you think

clen?
ag-guys? ef crack?

sorry brand new to the game.
 
bloopsnlate said:
stuck, i got my body fat test done today and it was 13%, thats much better than 20. What do you think

clen?
ag-guys? ef crack?

sorry brand new to the game.

Hehe, big different between 20 and 13%. I would still give the clen a shot if you want to drop some more BF as well as get a good pump at the gym. Start at 20mg/day then increase 20mg per day as your body tolerates. Run it for 2 weeks. Then, run 2 weeks of a thermogenic such as Thermorexin or you could take EGCG with coffee. Then hop back on the clen for 2 weeks. If you run that for 8 weeks I guarantee you will see results.
 
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