Newbie cycle advice

[scm1clh]

Hey guys,

This is my first post so bear with me. First of all can i say how awesome this site is, I feel like i've learnt so much already!

There's a couple of things I'd like to get your opinions on:

Firstly I'm currently trying to treat a pre-existing gyno problem, nothing too serious just a small mass under the nipples and some fat on chest ( hopefully this will clear up when i get my bf down ). I'm using aifm ~4pumps a day and i have some letro and nolva coming. What i was wondering is, i'm about to start my first proper cycle soon ( the gyno is from a short cycle without proper research, my own fault really. Looks like i'm very sensitive to e), is it possible to treat the gyno and start the cycle at the same time or do I need to wait until it's cleared up before i can start?

Next, i was after some advice on the actual cycle I don't want anything going wrong this time...

wk 1-11 500mg sust split 2/wk
wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
wk 9-11 winny 50mg ed

1.25 mg letro thorughout

PCT 500iu HCG 10 days
20mg Nolva 30 days
50mg Clomid 30 days

As for my stats, I find it very diffcult to put on any kind of mass. I'm 23 been training for around 6-7 years I'm around 170lb, my diet is my biggest problem but i have masses of protein shakes ready for this cycle. I'm about 13% bf at the mo which is very high for me ( over did it at chirstmas! )

Sorry about the big rambling post, any advice appreciated...

Chris

 

[Mrpumped]

I would definitely get the diet in check first. Protein shakes are good but they shouldn't be where you get most of your protein and calories from. Work on your diet is my suggestion. Then, when you notice, and you will notice a change in how you improve with a better diet, start a new cycle. Gyno problem, diet, then cycle. Good luck.

 

[JuicedAthletics]

Personally, I would either keep treating your gyno and hold off on your cycle OR start your cycle and deal with the gyno after. Reasons I said this would be that blocking too much estrogen during your cycle will be somewhat counterproductive to your gains. I know we all like to stay dry during cycles but "some" estrogen is essential to making gains..

I think the cycle looks good. I would keep the dbol the same, might not need 50mg though. But I would run the winstrol for 5-6 weeks.. Drop the letro for PCT.. You dont want a nasty estrogen rebound nor to you need to surpress that much estrogen during PCT. After your last shot, I would switch to AIFM, Aromasin or Arimidex and run that at a minimal dose throughout PCT.

Good luck bro!

 

[BigCracker]

Personally, I would either keep treating your gyno and hold off on your cycle OR start your cycle and deal with the gyno after. Reasons I said this would be that blocking too much estrogen during your cycle will be somewhat counterproductive to your gains. I know we all like to stay dry during cycles but "some" estrogen is essential to making gains..

I think the cycle looks good. I would keep the dbol the same, might not need 50mg though. But I would run the winstrol for 5-6 weeks.. Drop the letro for PCT.. You dont want a nasty estrogen rebound nor to you need to surpress that much estrogen during PCT. After your last shot, I would switch to AIFM, Aromasin or Arimidex and run that at a minimal dose throughout PCT.

Good luck bro!

What he said + 30 mgs of dbol/day should be enough. Personally I like to take it easy on the orals.

 

[scm1clh]

Thanks for the advice people, i think i'm going to hold off and get the gyno sorted first that should give me a few weeks to try out my new diet as well.

6:30am Maximuscle Progain shake, Porridge or All Bran
10:00am Fruit and yogurt
12:30pm Tuna pasta or sandwich from Men's health mag?
6:00pm Maximuscle Cyclone (post tranining)
8:00pm Chicken breasts/ steak or Turkey, Sweet potatoe and salad
10:00pm Whey protien with milk

I'll drop the dbol to 40mgs (split the difference), the reason i've only got 3wks winny is, first thats all i have, and also it's oral so i didn't want to run it too close to the dbol. I could drop it to 40mg ed and run for 4wks?

P.S. This aifm is awesome, maybe psychological but after only a few days feels like the mass under my nipple is breaking up! haven't even got the nolva and letro yet...