Newb Question.........

[JKurz1]

Posed this question in the gym today by an older man who has been training for a good 10 years natty......gear is not my specialty, so I'll ask the gurus...

He has T-400 (I know, that much I warned him about)...he has 2 10cc bottles, along with 1 10cc of prop and 10cc of sus 250 (kind of a bogus smorgishborg, but oh well...) Would it be decent for him to just take 1/2cc of the 400 (to reduce pain)/week and 1 cc of the sus250/week = 450mg of test/week for 10 weeks and maybe frontloading the prop for the first 2-3 weeks?

Then he planned on getting a 50cc bottle of 50mg Equiposie and 2 10cc of winny to cut up and possible compete in the over 35 class?

I'll gonna help him with his diet and training, but need your help with the gear.......

 

[Mavy]

Eh bro,

T400, and sust, are going to be slightly painful no matter how you run them. Mixing them could be asking for more. Those are probably the 3 most painful test, t400, sust, and prop. I havent used T-400, but I find Sust more painfull than prop. I am assuming its UG made sust, since it is in a 10cc vial, and not amps.

Just tell him to keep it simple. If he wants to cut the pain down a bit, I would mix the EQ with the test.

Try to get him to run something like test+EQ, with prop at the start for kickstart, and winny at the end til PCT. Its hard to desing something when you see his inventory like that, and when we have no idea of his stats, or lifting/cycling history. Maybe try something like this...

Wk1-3
Test (use the sust or t400): 300-500/wk
EQ: 400mg/wk
Winny: 50mg/day

Wk4-10
Test (use the sust or t400): 300-500/wk
EQ: 400mg/wk

Wk11-13
Prop: 100mg/eod

Wk14
PCT

He can always change the winny where the prop is if he would rather finish with the winny for better cutz. Thats a lot of jabs with 50mg EQ. Sucks.

 

[JKurz1]

Eh bro,

T400, and sust, are going to be slightly painful no matter how you run them. Mixing them could be asking for more. Those are probably the 3 most painful test, t400, sust, and prop. I havent used T-400, but I find Sust more painfull than prop. I am assuming its UG made sust, since it is in a 10cc vial, and not amps.

Just tell him to keep it simple. If he wants to cut the pain down a bit, I would mix the EQ with the test.

Try to get him to run something like test+EQ, with prop at the start for kickstart, and winny at the end til PCT. Its hard to desing something when you see his inventory like that, and when we have no idea of his stats, or lifting/cycling history. Maybe try something like this...

Wk1-3
Test (use the sust or t400): 300-500/wk
EQ: 400mg/wk
Winny: 50mg/day

Wk4-10
Test (use the sust or t400): 300-500/wk
EQ: 400mg/wk

Wk11-13
Prop: 100mg/eod

Wk14
PCT

He can always change the winny where the prop is if he would rather finish with the winny for better cutz. Thats a lot of jabs with 50mg EQ. Sucks.

Thanx bro...I know he's in for some pain, but he seems eager....live and learn....I'm 99% he wants to hit them with two different cycles.....do 1 short cycle as a "bulk" really consuming the cals and zero cardio (clean cals), taking some time off (time on=time off) and then hitting a super clean diet, cardio etc. while gearing up with a cut stack..........Any luck with a test only stack as a bulk or maybe some deca if he can get it and then the EQ/winny? Much thanks bro.............

 

[JKurz1]

thoughts?