newb looking fro some tips

[gregy0]

Hey guys , going to try not to sound to ignorant here but ill give u soem stats. LIfting 9 years on and off serious for last 2 and half years. 6ft 320 pounds never had real bodyfat test but my body comp hsa me in the mid 20's 25 or 26 bodyfat. Bench is 300+ my deads are closing in around 500 and my squats are a lil shady i can prbably get 350 8 times on a good day parelel (shotty knee) . Hers the question ive researched this stuff for almost a year now to see where i stand. Ive got my diet in check for the time being eating good loosing weight at bout .5 - 1 pounds a week. But am pondering if testerone cycle would be the best for me if i wanted to drop a few bodyfat percentages and manage to pack on a lil muscle. Test enth seems to be the test of choice here so i figure i go with 12 weeks of that 2 shots a week at 250mg each . Ive got some reply on other forums about using winny and tren on the first cycle, but think ive chosen to stray away until i see how i react to the test alone. But just wandering if u think it would be a good idea for me to go this route. I reliaze a good diet and stuff helps and my training routine is intact . I run a mile a day regardless. Just looking for some tips and or pointers to get me in the right direction . Im healthy as a horse (acording to my phyiscan and big as one too so he says) but just wandering what u guys would suggest. Here for some support hope not to get to amny people rawled up at me.

 

[jumpshot]

Most people will argue the cut/bulk thing to death. I'd keep eating right, do the TE, and up the cardio alot. But that's me.

 

[gregy0]

do u think i should keep my calories what they are right now ?? i mean im eating around 2800 to 3000 a day right now .? and is 12 weeks to much should i stop it at 10 ? i hae enough for 12 just curious bout that ? my pct is in check regardless if any sides or not just to be on safe side.

 

[RADAR]

Make sure you comsume 1 gram of protein for every pound of body weight.
Test E is a good choice. 12 weeks is fine.
Be sure you have ancillaries on hand before starting.

RADAR

 

[BigCracker]

do u think i should keep my calories what they are right now ?? i mean im eating around 2800 to 3000 a day right now .? and is 12 weeks to much should i stop it at 10 ? i hae enough for 12 just curious bout that ? my pct is in check regardless if any sides or not just to be on safe side.

I'm a 6ft 300 lb guy myself. My weight fluctuates between 260-300 depending on the time of year. I just started my diet a month ago. Two weeks before I start dieting I actually up my calories by 1000/day(in hopes to boost my metabolic rate). If I were you I'd try as hard as possible to feed my muscle and not my fat. 200-250 grams of protien/daily and just enough carbs to keep your energy levels high enough to train hard. I don't really monitor my fat intake until I've already lost most of the weight I've wanted to lose. I just don't add fat like butter, sour cream, etc to my foods. 500 mgs/wk of test e and a ECA stack should be enough. Cardio on an empty stomach 1st thing in the morning really helps reduce bf-plus it boosts your metabolism for the day. Don't forget to drink an assload of water-it's the magic elixer of weight loss.

 

[gregy0]

Yeah i like my water as it is , so u uped ur calories before u started ur cycle ? I figure if i stay in this range and eat them as clean as possible that i will lean much quicker with the test (but i coudl be wrong here as to see im a newb and only know what ive reasearched adn not how my body will acutally react.) than goign at it alone? Another thing soemoen mentione to me on another bored bout doing dbol for 4 weeks then gogin off and goign pure test for the remaineder . Said it would give me the feeling like i was getting somewhere. But to my knowledge dbol bloats u and u hold lots of water but get massive sterenght for the time at hand but fades slowly when u cut it out . Would I have any benifeit doing that because the dbol is easily accesible and not very expensive or would that be pushing me in a bulking direction even if used for just 4 weeks ? IM a power lifter by nature not so much worried bout the body and cuts and what not as to just looking a lil leaner ? whats everyoen thougths on this ?

 

[RADAR]

Yeah i like my water as it is , so u uped ur calories before u started ur cycle ? I figure if i stay in this range and eat them as clean as possible that i will lean much quicker with the test (but i coudl be wrong here as to see im a newb and only know what ive reasearched adn not how my body will acutally react.) than goign at it alone? Another thing soemoen mentione to me on another bored bout doing dbol for 4 weeks then gogin off and goign pure test for the remaineder . Said it would give me the feeling like i was getting somewhere. But to my knowledge dbol bloats u and u hold lots of water but get massive sterenght for the time at hand but fades slowly when u cut it out . Would I have any benifeit doing that because the dbol is easily accesible and not very expensive or would that be pushing me in a bulking direction even if used for just 4 weeks ? IM a power lifter by nature not so much worried bout the body and cuts and what not as to just looking a lil leaner ? whats everyoen thougths on this ?

Being a 54yr old vet we used to refer to Dbol as Armidex as being the poor man's Anavar

RADAR

 

[gregy0]

Being a 54yr old vet we used to refer to Dbol as Armidex as being the poor man's Anavar

RADAR

thats pretty funny but i suppose u gotta work with waht u got and or what u can get lol cause after u get gear its hard enough to afford the grocery bill lol

 

[baslayr]

Radar,
By no means am I trying to question your knowledge, 'cause I know much less than you, but when I hear 1gm of protein per lb. of weight it should be more like 1 gm. per weight of muscle should'nt it? 'Cause your not feeding your fat. It's just a thought. If this doesn't make since, then I'm a dumbass and please just ignore it.

 

[RADAR]

Radar,
By no means am I trying to question your knowledge, 'cause I know much less than you, but when I hear 1gm of protein per lb. of weight it should be more like 1 gm. per weight of muscle should'nt it? 'Cause your not feeding your fat. It's just a thought. If this doesn't make since, then I'm a dumbass and please just ignore it.

There are no stupid questions my friend, if you took i gram per muscle weight you wouldn't be getting enough,protein.That is unless you were ripped.
Bear in mind that there is muscle under that fat so yes it needs protein also.

RADAR

 

[baslayr]

Point taken

 

[gregy0]

thanks for all the info guys .. im really looking forward to startign up adn seeing where this takes me ill keep everyone posted i plan on taken daily pictures just to chart progress

 

[RADAR]

thanks for all the info guys .. im really looking forward to startign up adn seeing where this takes me ill keep everyone posted i plan on taken daily pictures just to chart progress

Thats one of the best ways to guage your progress,pics don;t lie


RADAR

 

[bigmodean]

Thats one of the best ways to guage your progress,pics don;t lie


RADAR

Any thoughts from anybody on his second question,using Winny or Tren alone on first cycle vs. Enth,?Enth. is the standard first cycle route but what are your guys thoughts on that for him,let the masters speak.

 

[RADAR]

Any thoughts from anybody on his second question,using Winny or Tren alone on first cycle vs. Enth,?Enth. is the standard first cycle route but what are your guys thoughts on that for him,let the masters speak.

I wouldn't THINK of running a tren cycle without test!

RADAR

 

[cyrex]

I'd recommend doing this based on my personal experience and how my cycle has gone so far:

Cut Calories for now a little more and get about 40 minutes of cardio in 4x/week for the next x weeks. x = number of weeks it takes for you to fit in a pair of jeans 1 size smaller (not a problem if you are 320 lbs and 6ft tall with over 20% bf). It took me 3 weeks.

Cycle:
Test En 500mg (250mg 2x/wk) for 12 weeks
dbol 30mg wk 1-4
.5mg Arimidex ED

Weeks 1 & 2 keep your calories at your cutting level up to maintenance so you continue to lose fat for those first couple weeks, then ramp up to 200 or 300 calories ABOVE maintenance so you can start to build muscle and stay there up until your last shot. Then slowly ramp down back to a cutting diet by the time you are done with your PCT. This should allow you to lose fat, gain relatively lean mass, and hop back down to losing more fat when you are done which should be even easier since you have more muscle to burn calories with.

 

[gregy0]

tell me what u guys think bout this test enth 500 mg 1 through 12 , dobl 30 to 40 mg a day weeks 1 -4or5 , arimidex .5 everday or every other day depending on the strenth and water issues with usign to much ill adjust as needed. Then at the end of the cycle would it be safe to use my pct stuff like the clomid and or nova with clenbuterol ? or do u guys think i shoudl stray fromt eh clen for now ? just post back give mea holler

 

[shoestring]

I would lose the fat first and then think about puting on some muscle in the fall or something. Good luck..

 

[JohnnyWest]

tell me what u guys think bout this test enth 500 mg 1 through 12 , dobl 30 to 40 mg a day weeks 1 -4or5 , arimidex .5 everday or every other day depending on the strenth and water issues with usign to much ill adjust as needed. Then at the end of the cycle would it be safe to use my pct stuff like the clomid and or nova with clenbuterol ? or do u guys think i shoudl stray fromt eh clen for now ? just post back give mea holler

some people sayclen has anti-catabolic effects, but i would not be comfortable taking a stimulant during pct, personally i don't belive those claims for a second anyway. why not run the clen with a clean diet right now, try do get down to 18% body fat or so, and then cycle.thats's what i would do. but if you do what you want to do you shouldn't have a problem. Good Luck.

 

[asianlover]

Cycle:
Test En 500mg (250mg 2x/wk) for 12 weeks
dbol 30mg wk 1-4
.5mg Arimidex ED

this would be the best thing for you. you may need to bump the adex up to 1mg/day depending on how the test afects you. with this cycle and a good diet and lots of cardio you should have really good results.

 

[gregy0]

this would be the best thing for you. you may need to bump the adex up to 1mg/day depending on how the test afects you. with this cycle and a good diet and lots of cardio you should have really good results.

so you think with bumping up the cardio and that cycle that i will stiill retain most my mass and maybe gain a lil . Because thats the problem i have i always find myself doing the cardio and loosing all my newly found muscle go figure lol . But I will give it a try like i said ill be taking daily pics when it begins and keep everyone posted. Is ag guys best armidex source u knwo of i got my pct from there wish i would have went ahead got the armidex too could have got a better deal . If anyone has anymore suggestions or knows if ag is best for the armidex give me a holler. Its all appreicated i hate to be a bother i just like going at things with a plan .