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Impossible lol
 
Wow, your shit is hard to read, try some punctuation and a carriage return here and there and a browser with built in spell check may be a wise move for you as well..

That being said, your passive aggressive attitude of telling me you mean "no diss reapect" just after saying "shut ur face up" isnt going to fly here.

By and large I subscribe to the "mind over matter" philosophy and since your opinion of me doesnt matter I dont mind your ramblings BUT I will warn you sitting here insulting me is clearly against the rules and a ban-able offense.

So, just because you know people who exercise and eat well doesnt mean they arent deficient. When you can bring lab work showing these people have NO deficiencies or no deficiency symptoms to the table then I am willing to entertain your view. Until then, you are just as clueless as the medical community who knows nothing about real nutrition.

As for me being on TRT, you are correct. I started TRT because it was a quick fix for some of my varied symptoms and was one of many tools to help me address some of my symptoms enough so that I could focus and continue to work out while I worked on the underlying issues. Deficiencies dont happen overnight, they can take years or even decades to appear and they sometimes take years to resolve.

We hear from people here quite often that get on TRT and still struggle with various issues. Talk with and read about the experiences of orthomolecular docs. Many of them have been practicing for 10-50 years focusing on proper nutrition and filling gaps. These MD's always start with thorough workups to find deficiencies and there is rarely a patient who walks through their door that is at optimal levels of all nutrients.

All of that being said, if you dont like what I write than dont read it, its over your head anyway. However I will warn you to keep things civil or you wont be here long.

Wow Man you handled that a lot better than most would have!! I learn more from your posts than I do anyone else's.
 
Wow, your shit is hard to read, try some punctuation and a carriage return here and there and a browser with built in spell check may be a wise move for you as well..

That being said, your passive aggressive attitude of telling me you mean "no diss reapect" just after saying "shut ur face up" isnt going to fly here.

By and large I subscribe to the "mind over matter" philosophy and since your opinion of me doesnt matter I dont mind your ramblings BUT I will warn you sitting here insulting me is clearly against the rules and a ban-able offense.

So, just because you know people who exercise and eat well doesnt mean they arent deficient. When you can bring lab work showing these people have NO deficiencies or no deficiency symptoms to the table then I am willing to entertain your view. Until then, you are just as clueless as the medical community who knows nothing about real nutrition.

As for me being on TRT, you are correct. I started TRT because it was a quick fix for some of my varied symptoms and was one of many tools to help me address some of my symptoms enough so that I could focus and continue to work out while I worked on the underlying issues. Deficiencies dont happen overnight, they can take years or even decades to appear and they sometimes take years to resolve.

We hear from people here quite often that get on TRT and still struggle with various issues. Talk with and read about the experiences of orthomolecular docs. Many of them have been practicing for 10-50 years focusing on proper nutrition and filling gaps. These MD's always start with thorough workups to find deficiencies and there is rarely a patient who walks through their door that is at optimal levels of all nutrients.

All of that being said, if you dont like what I write than dont read it, its over your head anyway. However I will warn you to keep things civil or you wont be here long.

^Great post brother
 
I learn more from your posts than I do anyone else's.

Thanks, I appreciate the kind words.

To those who made it past the run on paragraphs above I realize I do often sound like a broken record BUT I have been here a while and I have done numerous cycles, small and large. I have been a gym rat for 28 years with a few small breaks. I have let my body slide through some rough patches in life and I have come back from that. I am on TRT, I have used DNP, clen, T3 and many more items, some I am not proud of. I have had various health issues over the years and I was never even supposed to walk.

All of my health issues that I have solved to date I have done so with nutritional supplementation. I still have a couple issues I am working on, but it takes time to find the root cause and then even more time to treat.

Im not peddling anyones product, I get no kickbacks and I am not asking anyone to start taking all these fancy, expensive supplements.

What I am preaching is plain and simple....give the body what it needs for optimal function and you will get optimal results.

If you sit down with a recipe for a fancy chocolate cake you cant cut out half the ingredients and expect things to turn out great.

Essential nutrients, as their name imply are essential to life and for optimal function you need optimal levels. Can you put 87 octane fuel in your performance car that says it should have 92 octane fuel? Sure you can, but whats going to happen? It certainly isnt going to perform to its fullest.

Pretty much every nutrient has an associated deficiency disease. Too lice vit C you get scurvy, too little B3 and you get pallagra and the list goes on.

What I am simply trying to pass along to the masses is that deficiencies are not on/off, they are not black and white, there are degrees of deficient states.

Our food sources suck across the globe to overfarmed soils and pollution in addition to being inundated with toxins on a daily basis. Both of these contribute to increased chance of being deficient in one or more nutrients.

Im all for AAS use, im all for building mass and strength through performance enhancing drugs. However as I myself learn more and more about the importance of the micronutrients the more and more I see people who are not in a healthy enough state to make full use of the performance enhancing drugs.

Daily I see guys posting up these monster cycles and when asked their stats they come back with a measly 170lbs at 5'10".

Adaptation IS survival!

You body can not efficiently adapt to stimulus without proper nutrients and these scrawny guys running around doing pro sized cycles just help to drive home my point.

People here would make significantly better gains on moderate cycles if they just took the time make sure they got the basic nutrients we all need. Not only that but they would also reduce and or eliminate many of their nagging problems we see so many hear complain about as well. Poor sleep, inability to lose fat, food sensitivities, skin conditions, allergies, intestinal issues and even mental issues.
 
Zyg, you didn't tell me exactly what I wanted to hear, but that doesn't mean it's not what I needed to hear. Thanks again.
 
Hi guys

I would like to thank Zygla, and also offer up a defence for his logical and sensible approach to many of the issues, challenges, and problems which face many of the men and women who use this website and forum.

Unfortunately, in this day and age, people understandably assume there is a easy technical solution to any of their ills.

"Weight problem? Oh, yeah! Here's a table to fix it."
"Not putting on muscle after a month of working out? No problemo. here's a vial of stuff that will sort it for you."

Sadly, the last thing people want to hear about is the truth that maybe their nutrition/diet is inadequate, or they aren't putting enough effort in at the gym. This I can understand too. We are so conditioned to getting answers handed to us on a plate, that it's hard stomach when the answers aren't that simple. But why can't they be? Nutrition and training doesn't have to be difficult, in fact, it's easy. The trouble is we're like construction workers building a house without putting the foundations in first. We do everything back to front. "Okay. so I've got my steroid cycle sorted out, now I need to find a gym and someone who can give me a failsafe training routine. Then I must think about buying some food that's going to make me grow".

Well. How about sorting all those things out before you get your steroid cycle sorted?

Then we have the doctors who stick folks on every tablet imaginable for depression, IBS, anxiety, sleep problems, libido, energy, fatigue... The list goes on. No doctor in the land (I'm specifically referring to my country England here) considers diet or exercise or the lack of it, as a prime consideration before banging out the prescriptions for sometimes dangerous medications.

I work with a lot of guys who are hypogonadal for various reasons; undescended testicles, Klinefelter's, cancer, childhood illness, head injury, trauma, etc. Many of these have regular blood tests and something nutritional nearly always comes back in red as being deficient. The nutrients that show up most are: Vitamin D; Vitamins B6, B12; and Calcium. Some guys make the necessary changes and it makes a big difference. Surprisingly, not one of these men had any idea their diets were lacking in any particular nutrient. Moreover, they didn't realise how much impact such a deficiency could have on their lives until they addressed it, and saw the changes for themselves.

So. I must leap to Zygla's defence here. Okay, not every problem is down to diet or nutrition, but I don't think that is what Zygla is saying. I think he is telling us that we must not at least forget to consider the impact that any nutritional deficiency might have on our well-being and health. Sometimes, the answers aren't going to be found in an x-ray, or hormone screen, and the answer might in fact be sitting in (or probably not) your refrigerator or food cupboard at home.

My qualification to speak? I am a BSc. Hons and MSc. in sport, health, and exercise nutrition. Staffordshire University and OU.

Regards,
Craig
 
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