New pics

[cheesecake]

Here are a couple of new pics that I took yesterday. And yes, I already know that I'm fat.

Here's a pic taken on 06/28:

And here's the one taken on 10/11:

A few more taken yesterday.

Here's my back:

And my legs:

Comments?
...chad...

 

[cheesecake]

One more. My personal favorite because puttinbuttin78 says I look huge in it:

...chad...

 

[t3c]

you are looking BIG and leaner

not to mention you are getting strong as hell

keep it up man


edit: forgot to add you look like a fucking monster in that last pic

 

[PolishHammer1977]

The monster is screaming out!!!!!!!!!!Nice brutha. Real nice. I see a change.

 

[cheesecake]

Thanks guys. I really like that last pic.

I forgot to mention that there's 30lb difference between the first two pics. I was ~260lb in the first pic and I'm ~290lb now.

I will be 310-315 by the end of the year.
...chad...

 

[Lord_Suston]

a few things
1)bigger legs, especially quad, and bicep femoris
2)bigger traps and lats
3)front delts and tri are coming along.

areas to improve, I know I am a dick
1)more ab work, small compared to leg girth
2) need more shoulders overall
3)need more lower back

great progress man, just keep hitting it hard and eationg right.

 

[gymtime]

A great improvement man...well done.

While I'm not as tall as you are, I notice that I was built almost exactly like you when I started lifting, about ten years ago.

The biggest mistake I made was not paying enough attention to my diet early on. Don't make the same mistake bro. If I had one suggestion, I'd tell you to do as least as much research into nutrition as you have put into lifting. It will make a HUGE difference.

 

[kingc_79]

nice man..thats a lot of weight and strength you have gained in just a short amount of time...your traps look huge...keep up the hard work

 

[Yarg!]

Great job dude, I wish you the best of luck on all your lifts.

 

[Devastation]

yes you have gained alot of size since the first pics

 

[WalkingBeast]

I havent seen the orginal pics, but youve got some freaky mass! If you ask me its all about strength, you can always shred up later. Awesome!

 

[sk*]

A lot of improvement!!!

-sk

 

[Arnold'sApprentice]

why not do a mini cut before bulking again?

if you bulk up to 300lb a hellava lot of it will be fat and ,in the long term,you will lose MORE muscle cuz you will have to cut real severe and for a long time. You have good size why not cut now and reveal it's glory?

 

[MULE1]

Powerlift biggun, no one cares if your pretty

 

[Exodus]

why not do a mini cut before bulking again?

if you bulk up to 300lb a hellava lot of it will be fat and ,in the long term,you will lose MORE muscle cuz you will have to cut real severe and for a long time. You have good size why not cut now and reveal it's glory?

mule said it best.

besides cheesecake is already 290, another 15-20lbs in 3 months will not be a lot of fat, and he is 6'5. so 300 on him doesnt look like 300 on most people.

cheesecake is trying to get stronger, he's just posting pics to show progress, stronger muscles get bigger.

you looking good bud, keep up the great work......... you legs are genetically a stand out point, but you upper body is what impresses me. great job.

and dont worry about dieting, you dont have to do that untill you have a case of "Dickey - Doo."

you remember, its where you belly sticks out further than your "dickey - doo" untill that happens, no dieting.

X

 

[Arnold'sApprentice]

i apologise....i did not -until i read b fold s thread - realise you are a powerlifter/strongman and not an aesthetic bb'er.. disregard what i said bro.

 

[cheesecake]

Thanks for the tips everyone. I'm going to try and get as big as I can before I ever start thinking about cutting.

On a related note, puttinbuttin78 mentioned this morning that we should probably think about getting a bigger bed. She said that I'm so big now that she doesn't have any room on our queen sized bed.

Man, I love my wife.
...chad...

 

[Exodus]

Man, I love my wife.
...chad...

great.......... is she going to let you come out and play in kentucky!?!?!

i know what you mean about being too big for a queen. when me and trinity were trying to buy a bed, we tested several queens, it just wasnt happening.

X

 

[b fold the truth]

i know what you mean about being too big for a queen. when me and trinity were trying to buy a bed, we tested several queens, it just wasnt happening.

X

Nefi had a super single bed...and we both fit. You just have to get REALLY close.

B True

 

[Exodus]

Nefi had a super single bed...and we both fit. You just have to get REALLY close.

B True

sounds sweet..........lol but after the cudling is done, i have to move away from her, im cant sleep with someone on me, i dont know why.

X

 

[Backlash]

I am the same way - superwife and I love our king size. Now I just need to grow enough to fill it up some!

 

[BigBadBootyDaddy29]

Excellent progress. The traps are looking jacked. And, even though you were half kidding in the thread title, I honestly would not describe you as fat. Keep doing what you're doing. BTW, how old are you?

 

[cheesecake]

Thanks for the compliments BBBD. I'm a little chunky, but I can live with that as long as the PRs keep coming. When I can pull 600+ I'll worry about cutting.

Traps have always been one of my better body parts, even before I worked out.

And I'm 24. I'll be 25 on Feb. 1.
...chad...

 

[BigWh1tey]

I don't mean to sound like a dick (but i am), your body composition (as displayed in the pics) is turning to shit. I'm sure you can hit PRs with a better diet. If you keep going the way you are you will be an absolute butter ball at 315.
You should have a surplus of Kcals in your diet, but I think your going overboard. If you eat your way to SHW, just to get a 600DL you will be getting crushed at meets. Moderate your food intake now , and start dragging the sled daily, before its too late.
Not meant as a flame, but as a reality check.

 

[cheesecake]

Not meant as a flame, but as a reality check.

Not taken as a flame either. I appreciate your input.

I'm not sure that I agree that I would be a complete butterball at 20-25lb heavier than I am now, even if ALL of it is fat.

I do realize that the vast majority of SHW are pulling a lot more than 600, but that's just a short term goal for me. I've not even been lifting for four months yet. I can't wait to see how big and how strong I will be after four years.
...chad...

 

[powerforward]

keep working man, as long as your making progress for YOUR goals your doing well.

 

[b fold the truth]

sounds sweet..........lol but after the cudling is done, i have to move away from her, im cant sleep with someone on me, i dont know why.

X

Nefi is like a little mini-heater too. I just like to be touching her at all times through the night. My arm, butts, legs, shoulders...something. What can I say? I kinda like the ol girl

That bed was funny. I had to sleep on the side of the bed where the dresser droors stopped so that my feet could hang off the foot of the bed by over a foot...lol.

B True

 

[JOKER47]

sounds sweet..........lol but after the cudling is done, i have to move away from her, im cant sleep with someone on me, i dont know why.

X

I am the same way. I can't cuddle and sleep.

My wife is a heater, too. Well, except for her butt.
Why is it that a womens butt drops 30-40 degrees the second they get in the bed, then they have to stick it on you to warm it back up?


Joker

 

[Exodus]

I am the same way. I can't cuddle and sleep.

My wife is a heater, too. Well, except for her butt.
Why is it that a womens butt drops 30-40 degrees the second they get in the bed, then they have to stick it on you to warm it back up?


Joker

you guys are nuts..... trinity is an ice cicle in the bed........ im her heater, she keeps snuggling and im like " get off~!!!!"...lol

but b, im the same, something on me is touching trinity, just not lying on , or under her.

X

 

[Exodus]

oh, and cheesecake, its always a lot eaiser to loose the fat than it is to gain the muscle.

your almost 6'6, at 315 your waist will look like the average joe.

i would love to be over 300lbs after less than half a year. just keep setting pr's and dont worry about the fat, within 16 weeks you could have a 6 pack if you wanted it. but not a 600 lb deadlift. so keep on doing what your doing.

plus your natural, which makes it a lot harder to gain strength and maintain bodyfat levels at the same time.

in 4 years........ well see what you look like then

X

 

[DrBones]

sounds sweet..........lol but after the cudling is done, i have to move away from her, im cant sleep with someone on me, i dont know why.

Bleh... cuddling sucks...
I can barely sleep in the same bed as a girl unless I am REALLY close to them(not litterally close.. but relationship close)... I'm always to worried Im either hoggin the bed or will wake them up with my contant shifting

Keep gaining weight bro!

 

[Exodus]

Bleh... cuddling sucks...
I can barely sleep in the same bed as a girl unless I am REALLY close to them(not litterally close.. but relationship close)... I'm always to worried Im either hoggin the bed or will wake them up with my contant shifting

Keep gaining weight bro!

well me and joker are married, and bfold is very close........

X

 

[cheesecake]

well me and joker are married

How's that long distance thing work for you guys?
...chad...

 

[Dozing21]

What is the point in eating so much over your maintenance that you gain fat? How does fat help you lift more? I personally think bulking is way overrated. Better stay at around 10% or so and gain mostly quality muscle.

 

[BigWh1tey]

i think the 10% number is a little low for a powerlifter , but the concept is solid. The idea of "just losing the fat" isn't as simple as it sounds. Most BB will agree that its difficult to take off the fat w/o losing muscle tissue. Its one thing to suck down a few pounds to make weight for a meet , its a completely different story when you have to take off 30-40#or more.
I think conditioning is the main issue. No 295# man should have to lie on the floor after a walkout w/ 405.

 

[PolishHammer1977]

How's that long distance thing work for you guys?
...chad...

Quote of the day goes to CHEESECAKE!!!

 

[Parabellum]

I can really see a big difernece.

Nice work with the avatar.

 

[cheesecake]

No 295# man should have to lie on the floor after a walkout w/ 405.

I see where you are coming from BigWh1tey, but I don't think you understand me.

Yes, I'm ~295lb. So by most powerlifting standards, I should be squatting a lot more than the 405 that I walked out with. That 405 is 140% of my squat 1RM. But you see, that squat 1RM came after only 8 weeks of working out. Period.

Yes, I realize that I am very weak. But I have also only been doing this for less than four months total now. It wasn't that I worked out for a few years and then decided to try powerlifting. No. This is it.

I don't see how staying lean (or in my case, getting lean) is going to help me put up more weight. Can you explain that one to me?
...chad...

 

[PolishHammer1977]

Cheese,

You are WAY ahead of your own curve. That is the only one that matters.

Hammer

 

[BigWh1tey]

If you walked into Nazareth Barbell and said "i want to powerlift" we would have you dragging and doing other GPP movements 6 days a week. The last thing we would have you do is worry about bulking up because your coefficient is already very low. It seems that you lack the base or core strength and that would be remedied before any concerns about your BW.
My point is not that you should get leaner ( but that would be one of the results of diligent GPP work) , rather that gaining more adipose tissue (the bulk of your weight gain) will be of no benfit. A 6X day balanced meal plan very low in simple carbs totalling maybe a 200-300 Kcal in surplus would be far better.
If an experienced class 1 or 2 powerlifter said " I want to move up a weight class" my response would be very different. With 4 months in you willl hit Prs consistantly w/o significant weight gain. On a PL based program you are doing a minimum of hypertrophy work so what kind of weight have you gained? Mostly useless deconditioning body fat. "Bulking Up" is a bodybuilders game , but it only works to your benefit if you are focusing on hypertrophy.
Im not trying to down you at all, i just hate seeing someone who is dedicated waste there efforts with bad self defeating ideas. Worse , I hate seeing it get reinforced with strokes from others telling you how great it is. What will be great is when you hit good numbers.

 

[JOKER47]

How's that long distance thing work for you guys?
...chad...

Can't wait til Exodus see's this........

 

[Exodus]

If you walked into Nazareth Barbell and said "i want to powerlift" we would have you dragging and doing other GPP movements 6 days a week.

i dissagree completely. g.p.p is something that you easy into. you dont just throw a shitload on someone. so cheesecake jumps in to powerlifting, he will be working out 4 times per week. and you want him to start right off the bat hitting g.p.p 6 times a week............. sorry my friend, but i see piss poor gains, and overtraining as the result.

cheesecake went from bench pressing 155lbs to 200lbs in just 9 weeks, no equipment, or steriods......... i call that a pretty big gain.

cheesecake has always been a big ole farm boy. he has weighed over 250lb since before he could legally drive. and that was a decade ago.

his squat went from 225 to 290 in the same 9 weeks. as well as a big deadlift increase.

IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT!!!

and whats the most weight you have ever put on your back for any exercise???? say it was 600lbs...... then for the same equivilent you would have to have put on 840lbs..... now you tell me after unracking that and holding it for 10 seconds...... you might be a little out of it.

just look at it from outside the box......

X

 

[BigWh1tey]

I can static hold 840 until the cows come home. BFD.

The kid is so deconditioned its a disgrace. My GF smokes his total and shes 132#body builder . Maybe some more body fat will help. Who knows? But i doubt it. And yes he should be doing something gpp related 6 days a week.

 

[Exodus]

I can static hold 840 until the cows come home. BFD.

The kid is so deconditioned its a disgrace. My GF smokes his total and shes 132#body builder . Maybe some more body fat will help. Who knows? But i doubt it. And yes he should be doing something gpp related 6 days a week.

could you hold 840 untill the cows come home after 4 months of training????


how long has your bodybuilder girlfriend been working out. did she play sports before she worked out???

X

 

[cheesecake]

I'm trying to understand here, so if I sound ignorant, it's because I am.

You mentioned that my coefficient was too low, and it is. However, regardless of what BF% I am, I'm still a big boy. I would think that I could possibly compete in the 242s if my BF was under 10%. If I did though, my strength would suffer.

So, is it more important to get your coefficient up or your total up?

I do agree that I should be doing more GPP work. I'm not sure that I have time to do it 6 days a week, but I have some ideas (thanks to slobberknocker) to get more in.
...chad...

 

[PolishHammer1977]

I can static hold 840 until the cows come home. BFD.

The kid is so deconditioned its a disgrace. My GF smokes his total and shes 132#body builder . Maybe some more body fat will help. Who knows? But i doubt it. And yes he should be doing something gpp related 6 days a week.

There has to be a better way to make your point BigWh1tey rather than using the verbage you have used in the above statement???.......................................

Cheesecake puts everything into his training. He is learning EVERY DAY how to get stronger, improve his form, ett...etc...
He is improving with each training session as evident in all the videos he posts. He has clearly taken the steps to better himself.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

A few thoughts now;

Is your GF a member of the board?
Does she post her workouts and videos here?

If not

I don't give a flying ****. Noone else does either, except for you. for some reason you feel the need to put Cheesecake down and better yourself by bringing in an outside individual who in my estimation probably does not want to have anything to do with elite or she would have been posting already.

I respected you for your knowledge and insight to the iron game. After what you have just posted I have lost all respect for you. If you want to call someone names than YOU need to start posting workouts and videos of the same caliber.

Polish Hammer

 

[t3c]

I agree cheesecake could probably do more GPP without it even interfering with his training. Infact i bet it would make him stronger and up his work capacity quite a bit. you need to slowly introduce it though

Cheesecake is FAR from being a disgrace in any way. I dont know if he was offended by that...but I am offended by that.

 

[Exodus]

im sure cheescake could do more g.p.p. work

however he does have a job working over 40 hours per week - which is a 25-30minute drive each way. where he works monday - saturday every week.

a second job as a youth pastor for a church. where he has to drive about 35-40minutes from his house. once on wednesday night and twice on sundays.

and is a full time student getting his Masters degree from school. which is an 1 hour to 1 hour 15 minute ride from home.

plus puts in the gym 4 nights a week.

plus is still a newlywed.

not making excuses, becuase its not about me. but cheesecake has a pretty damn full schedule.

i think he is doing quite well.

you put 99% of the population in that same situation, and i dont think any would be training as hard or learning as much.

X

 

[cheesecake]

I do have a pretty full plate (how about that for a metaphor), but that's no excuse.

I don't want to be like 99% of the population, I want to be part of that 0.01%. And I will be.
...chad...

 

[Exodus]

I do have a pretty full plate (how about that for a metaphor), but that's no excuse.

I don't want to be like 99% of the population, I want to be part of that 0.01%. And I will be.
...chad...

you missed it........ i was saying 99% of the population would not lift heavy and train and learn like you do. you are that .01%

X

 

[MULE1]

Ok my two cents, Big WHitey is trying to give the kid some good advice. This Boy just by the law of size needs to be doing more. All of you telling him how great he is, is no help to him. It's one thing to give positive reinforcement it's another to blow smoke up someones ass.

I'm not sure how long cheescake has been lifting but he needs to do MASSIVE I MEAN MASSIVE AMOUNTS OFF GPP....HIS LEVEL IS WAY DOWN. You have to look at it form a good perspective, Bw 's girl came in here and benched 275 wearing a shirt for the first time weighing 132... We have a guy who is 132 wo benches 350....I agree with Whitey, get conditioned and then get strong.

 

[Cuthbert]

I think we all need to take a step back here.

Good points are raised on both sides; however, I think whitey has a good point with the GPP, and it does look to me like cheesecake's physical condition is a little worse... granted he has gotten much stronger.

To me (yes these are MY concerns), being strong as crap, as well as in good physical condition, are priorities. Everyone needs to figure out what works for them.

But there is no need for personal attacks in the mean time.

 

[cheesecake]

I'm not sure how long cheescake has been lifting but he needs to do MASSIVE I MEAN MASSIVE AMOUNTS OFF GPP....HIS LEVEL IS WAY DOWN.

I'll quote myself to answer this.

Yes, I realize that I am very weak. But I have also only been doing this for less than four months total now. It wasn't that I worked out for a few years and then decided to try powerlifting. No. This is it.

And here too.

I do realize that the vast majority of SHW are pulling a lot more than 600, but that's just a short term goal for me. I've not even been lifting for four months yet. I can't wait to see how big and how strong I will be after four years.

You mentioned that BW's girlfriend benched 275 in a shirt. Let me clarify. All of my lifts were done using a belt, knee wraps, and chalk only. I'm not sure I would have gotten 75lb out of a shirt the first time I used one, but some people get a lot more. Regardless, that's still a pretty weak bench.

But it won't be that way for long.
...chad...

 

[Exodus]

big whitey and mule........ i have nothing but respect and admiration for you guys. i bought your mm video to watch and learn from you.

but i think you guys are comparing apples to oranges.... big white and mule compare big whitey's gilfriend to cheescake. i bet she had been lifting for some time, probably with an athlete's background for some years and then came to MM to bench in a equipment.

were talking about a guy who hasnt played a sport in 10 years. decides hey, i like what my brother is doing, i'll take up powerlifting. along with his full schedule he does his best to increase g.p.p. he does sprints, truck pushes, pushups ect ect. he does what he can.

and for a beginner your advice should be get your coefficent up, it should be get your total up, then drop weight while increasing your g.p.p. and watch your coefficent sky rocket.

if you didnt then powerlifting would be mainly very small lifters becuase they were never told to gain weight, just increase their coefficent.

hell........ let the "kid" as you guys refer to him, have 1 year of training under his belt before you say that what he is doing is not working........ because so far it is.

yes as we have said his g.p.p should be better. but i just dont see how you guys can focus on his fat gain, and mule weighs in at over 420lbs.......... does that mean he should drop weight to get to the 308's or 275's???.... i mean that would boost up his coefficent??... and whitey i belive is in the 275ish class... should you drop to the 242's???

i have never known of anyone able to loose weight and gain large amounts of strength unless illegal issues are invovled,..... which will exlude cheescake, seeing as it would look right for the youth paster to be jucing..........

i agree with a lot of what you guys are saying, im just dont think your looking at the big picture........ please dont take this the wrong way as i greatly admire both of you.

X

 

[rbrown]

A great improvement man...well done.

While I'm not as tall as you are, I notice that I was built almost exactly like you when I started lifting, about ten years ago.

The biggest mistake I made was not paying enough attention to my diet early on. Don't make the same mistake bro. If I had one suggestion, I'd tell you to do as least as much research into nutrition as you have put into lifting. It will make a HUGE difference.

amen brother. Nutrition is key.

I also believe that almost anyone will be happier with their progess over the long haul if they focus on gaining quality weight rather than simply gaining weight. I'm not saying you have to be a body builder or anything, but unless you are getting some serious substance help, it will next to impossible to gain a ton a weight in a short period of time without a very high percentage of that weight being body fat.

I find success with gaining a lot of weight, then leveling out for quite a while, while I grow into that weight and harden up. Then you can go back to the gaining phase. I weigh, almost to the pound the same thing I did 2 years ago (255), but I am much stronger and harder now than I was then. In the interim, I have been as high as 265 and as low as 238 or so (even cut weight to 225 once for a weigh-in during that time period).

nice pics. keep working hard. Ryan

 

[MULE1]

Cheescake, this was not a personal attack I'm having a seminar on Nov. 22nd. If you can make your way up here get a karins denim and pay for your own room I won't charge you for the seminar...MULE...

 

[MULE1]

and for a beginner your advice should be get your coefficent up, it should be get your total up, then drop weight while increasing your g.p.p. and watch your coefficent sky rocket.

No Offence that is the most retarded thing I ever heard...
If he gets his GPP up first he will be able to work out longer and harder in turn making him stronger.
He willl recover faster and his conditioning will be better...getting fatter will not make him stronger...

As for me son my body weight at bench america was 413...I weighed 385 when I squatted 1,000 off a baox My blood pressure is 120/70 and My resting pulse is 74 None of wich is too bad for a man my size.... Like I said No one is busting cheescakes ass I want to see him do well and stroking him is not gonna help.

 

[Mike_Rojas]

Cheesecake - I'm not sure why you want to get up to 300 so soon. I would try concentrate on getting your lifts up. JMO, not an attack . You don't need to gain more weight to get your strength up at your stage in training.

 

[pwr_machine]

Cheesecake, I think you're on the right track. Gather what you can from these guys and use it to make yourself a better lifter. Mule and BigWhitey can offer some sound advice that will definately help you. To the others that have responded to benefit Cheesecake's efforts, I'm not ignoring you and praising Mule and BigWhitey, but these are two guys that I have met personally. I know from firsthand experience that they can help you. Keep asking questions and continue to learn like you have been. Ignore the so and so does this and so and so did that. Who gives a flip...there are hundreds of great lifters out there that can move some heavy damn weight. Focus on what you can do to become a better lifter. Force these guys to help you learn.

 

[BigWh1tey]

A few thoughts now;

Is your GF a member of the board?
Does she post her workouts and videos here?

If not

I don't give a flying ****. Noone else does either, except for you. for some reason you feel the need to put Cheesecake down and better yourself by bringing in an outside individual who in my estimation probably does not want to have anything to do with elite or she would have been posting already.

I respected you for your knowledge and insight to the iron game. After what you have just posted I have lost all respect for you. If you want to call someone names than YOU need to start posting workouts and videos of the same caliber.

Polish Hammer

If you want to see me in a video, you can buy it at www.elitefts.com Nazareth Barbell Best of the Meets: Volume 1.

I never called anyone a name, I said his level of conditioning was a disgrace. I'll give him all the props in the world for being dedicated, determined, all that good shit....

I won't coddle the idea of him ballooning up any further like its a great plan and I won't stroke him about his lifts. I won't say anyone has made great strides until they have, that would be the truely disrespectful thing.

I will provide him with any information he needs or wants, I will give my comments when asked. I will elaborate when questioned, I will explain myself and clarify whenever its warranted.

We don't do alot of hand holding and heavy petting where I train, if we did we would get nowhere. True gut level honesty, brotherhood, and big balls, those are the things that get us through our weak points and up to the next PR.

 

[cheesecake]

Cheescake, this was not a personal attack I'm having a seminar on Nov. 22nd. If you can make your way up here get a karins denim and pay for your own room I won't charge you for the seminar...MULE...

Your offer is very tempting. I will definitely consider it. Funds are definitely tight, but that is a chance of a lifetime.
...chad...

 

[rbrown]

Cheesecake:

I wouldn't really listen to any of the negative comments, ect. The iron game is all personal. If you are beating your old personal records, then you are having success. If you have only been working out 4 months, you can't compare yourself to people who have been working out for 15 years like myself or others. Be patient and you will get there if you want it bad enough.

However, you do have to draw a fine line between just getting huge and putting on quality weight. I find this is largely governed by diet. No offense to the Westside proponents (because I am one of them), but it has gotton the the point where "GPP" is almost a catch phrase or a fad. I personally find it to be a waste of my time (or rather not worth the time it takes) to do "special" GPP workouts by dragging a light sled around or whatever.

Just work out intensly and GPP will take care of itself.

 

[IronLion]

o.k. cheese you started lifting weights about 2 months ago and I will be honest and say that you have done well. Most people don't even stick with it this long. You have made quality strength gains and that is what matters.

Now part 2, I completely agree with BW and Mule, there is a point where you have to realize that you can only train as hard as you general conditioning level will handle. You can't handle the volume and intensity it will take to keep progressing at the same rate without a greater work capacity. The science being this: your anaerobic system uses oxegyn to create atp for energy at a cellular level. Anaerobic capacity is improved by doing things that last between 3 and 60 seconds. In short interval type training.

The one thing I wouldn't do is just walk around with a sled all day. There are many efficient ways to increase your work capacity and sled dragging is only one. Your bodyfat is not much if any different than your first pics, but you have gotten bigger, that indicates some hypertrophy. What you need is to not worry about your bodyfat in the sense where you are trying to lose weight, but you do need to clean up your diet and add interval sprint work, sled dragging, plyos and continue the event training. You will be at the right bodyfat when your endurance is good in these exercises. If what you want is to powerlift, then get your body in shape to the point where you can train at your full potential.

Oh and the thing about overtraining is that if you can't handle a moderate amount of gpp and extra work, then you are not in good enough shape, don't back off the conditioning work. If you have to back down in your workouts then do it.

 

[revexrevex]

Some people are just jealous. He's only been working out few months and puts up weight that people get to after 2 years. Whats up with neagtive comments, whatever he is doing is obviously working, so why what the fuck?

 

[Warpath]

Here's an idea if you're concerned with bf gain; 1)get some calipers and measure your body fat once a week. 2) weigh yourself once a week at a set time preferably in the morning and record these numbers. 3)Record your lift numbers for the week.
Calculate your lean body mass. Graph your lean body weight and total body weight (these should be in different colors and on the y axis of your chart) and time in weeks (on the x axis). This will give you a visual representation of your lean gains and fat gains. You can then adjust your diet accordingly to maximize your lbm gain and minimizing your bf gains. It sounds a little complicated, but would only take ten minutes a week and if you are serious, you might consider it to optimize your training. Just a suggestion.

 

[cheesecake]

Just work out intensly and GPP will take care of itself.

We do workout intensely. And if you notice in the workouts that I post, our volume per workout is a lot higher than most people who train using WSB.

I'll be posting a couple of my workouts shortly and you will see what I mean.
...chad...

 

[Exodus]

As for me son my body weight at bench america was 413...I weighed 385 when I squatted 1,000 off a baox My blood pressure is 120/70 and My resting pulse is 74 None of wich is too bad for a man my size.... Like I said No one is busting cheescakes ass I want to see him do well and stroking him is not gonna help.

i know your a great athlete..... thats great.

but what i said about your weight was not calling you fat or out of shape........ i said it would help out your coefficient, which is what big whitey was arguing......... thats all.

X

 

[b fold the truth]

I hope that everyone takes a few minutes to remember a few things...

When a world-class athlete gives you advice...you should give A LOT of thought to it instead of debating it.

B True

 

[Exodus]

When a world-class athlete gives you advice...you should give A LOT of thought to it instead of debating it.

B True

so that means you follow bill kazmier's every word!!!......lol ha ha ha.... sorry bud i just couldnt resist. since im leaving in 15 hours to come and see you , i had to start messing with you already.

you do make a very good point b, i will take a minute and consider that.

x

 

[b fold the truth]

so that means you follow bill kazmier's every word!!!......lol ha ha ha.... sorry bud i just couldnt resist. since im leaving in 15 hours to come and see you , i had to start messing with you already.

you do make a very good point b, i will take a minute and consider that.

x

No messing around on Sunday. I'm getting ready for a contest...total change in attitude on my part. I think that my guys can start to see it already.

Yes, I would listen to whatever Kaz had to tell me. I don't like him as a person because of the way that he has treated me before...but as a lifter his accomplishments blow mine away by far. I'd listen till my ears fell off.

B True

 

[Exodus]

No messing around on Sunday. I'm getting ready for a contest...total change in attitude on my part. I think that my guys can start to see it already.

Yes, I would listen to whatever Kaz had to tell me. I don't like him as a person because of the way that he has treated me before...but as a lifter his accomplishments blow mine away by far. I'd listen till my ears fell off.

B True

yeah im just having fun, we can still do that when were not training right???

oh, im looking to set some major pr's sunday.

X

 

[MULE1]

This is way out of hand....Everyone is entilted to his or her opinion and I in no way shape or form intended to hurt any ones feeelings....

Cheescake your always welcome to stop up my offer stand. Im glad to see your dedicated to the sport and your giving it your all....Good luck my man...Feel free to call if there is anything I can do for you

610-438-2902

Mike

 

[cheesecake]

When a world-class athlete gives you advice...you should give A LOT of thought to it instead of debating it.

Very good point.

I hope I haven't come across as being argumentative. In fact, I don't think that I was doing any arguing at all. That all came from others.

I appreciate any input that anyone will give me, especially those who are better at this than I am.
...chad...

 

[Mike_Rojas]

Very good point.

I hope I haven't come across as being argumentative. In fact, I don't think that I was doing any arguing at all. That all came from others.

I appreciate any input that anyone will give me, especially those who are better at this than I am.
...chad...

You have a good attitude - you will go far with that.

 

[b fold the truth]

I just want to add that Cheecake just left my home...and he is the skinniest 290 I've ever seen...lol. He could easily hold a solid 340 on his frame in the next 3 years...and be lean. These pictures do him NO justice at all. Looks NOTHING like him in person.

B True

 

[cheesecake]

I just want to add that Cheecake just left my home...and he is the skinniest 290 I've ever seen...lol.

I don't think anyone's ever called me 'skinny'.

You're my new hero. I mean that in more ways than one.
...chad...

 

[b fold the truth]

I don't think anyone's ever called me 'skinny'.

You're my new hero. I mean that in more ways than one.
...chad...

You look NOTHING like those photos that you posted...NADA. I was going to tell you the SAME things that Mule and BigWhitey were telling you...till you walked in the door.

My advice now? Eat solid and good and healthy...and build a lot more muscle.

B True

 

[cheesecake]

My advice now? Eat solid and good and healthy...and build a lot more muscle.

I plan on it.

And the new GPP work starts tomorrow. I'm goint to put my wheel barrel to good use.
...chad...