New member introduction

[danoman27]

Hey gang, just wanted to stop in and say hi. I've been reading for the past few days since I joined. Lots of good advice and knowledge here. I'm certainly glad I found this site.

I'm 31, been following a strict weight training regime for the last 2 years. Meaning this isn't an on and off thing for me, it's religious, I don't miss a day. I'm 5'11" 190. My diet is very strict. I've got it down now, where I basically have everything memorized so I'm getting good ratios. I'm happy with the gains I've made over the past year and a half. I've put on about 7 pounds of muscle give or take. My bf percentage is right around 9-10%. currently.

A friend of mine has sparked my interest in AAS. Since this would be my first cycle. Could you recommend a stack or cycle. My buddy has said we could do a Test/ HGH stack. I just want to have all my ducks in a row, take proper precautions and make it worth while.

Is there a section devoted to cycles? As you all know there is a lot of info on the net and I don't know enough yet to be prepared. Anyway, any advice/criticism would be appreciated.

Dan

 

[C0LUMB0]

welcome to the site bro.

please read the stickies - especially the one dedicated to AAS usage .

Research , Research and more Research is what you NEED to do before you even think about popping a pill or injecting anything into your body.
icant stress this enough...if you dont believe me just look at how many threads have the word HELP in the title..about 90% of these threads would not exist if those guys had done some dam reading on the subject BEFORE they launched into cycle of steroids.

P.s. your buddy that suggested you and him should run test and hgh is a fucking idiot

 

[danoman27]

welcome to the site bro.

please read the stickies - especially the one dedicated to AAS usage .

Research , Research and more Research is what you NEED to do before you even think about popping a pill or injecting anything into your body.
icant stress this enough...if you dont believe me just look at how many threads have the word HELP in the title..about 90% of these threads would not exist if those guys had done some dam reading on the subject BEFORE they launched into cycle of steroids.

P.s. your buddy that suggested you and him should run test and hgh is a fucking idiot

Yeah, I kinda figured he was a newb. That's why I came here. I also don't trust his source. Either way, thanks. I'll take your advice and keep on reading.

 

[JuiceIsMyFriend]

Yeah, I kinda figured he was a newb. That's why I came here. I also don't trust his source. Either way, thanks. I'll take your advice and keep on reading.

Hgh as a first cycle? Don't think so Tim. Try test e or c @ 250-500mg/wk and see what kind of sides you have if any. Don't run more then one thing your first time. Run it 8-12 weeks. Up to you. I would do 12 though.

 

[C0LUMB0]

Hgh as a first cycle? Don't think so Tim. Try test e or c @ 250-500mg/wk and see what kind of sides you have if any. Don't run more then one thing your first time. Run it 8-12 weeks. Up to you. I would do 12 though.

shit advice right there !!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

this guy knows fuck all about steroids because he has not learned what he needs to know before he starts injecting.

so dont go telling him to run test at any dose for any amount of weeks , pull this shit again and you are banned.

 

[danoman27]

Hgh as a first cycle? Don't think so Tim. Try test e or c @ 250-500mg/wk and see what kind of sides you have if any. Don't run more then one thing your first time. Run it 8-12 weeks. Up to you. I would do 12 though.

Thanks, I was thinking Test E for 12 would be my choice based on what I've read so far.

 

[danoman27]

shit advice right there !!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

this guy knows fuck all about steroids because he has not learned what he needs to know before he starts injecting.

so dont go telling him to run test at any dose for any amount of weeks , pull this shit again and you are banned.

Thanks, I'm just taking it all in so far.

Was thinking of doing a total of 16 weeks, including PCT.

So Here's what I'm leaning towards
Test-e 12 weeks: dosage is undetermined right now, still need more info and advice. (give me some ideas)
N2Gaurd throughout the test cycle
HCGenerate weeks 5-16
Unleashed weeks 10-16

Is bridge necessary if I'm not planning on cycling again? Are the timing of said products in the correct order and duration? Any thoughts comments or criticism would be appreciated.

Thanks Dan

 

[JuiceIsMyFriend]

shit advice right there !!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

this guy knows fuck all about steroids because he has not learned what he needs to know before he starts injecting.

so dont go telling him to run test at any dose for any amount of weeks , pull this shit again and you are banned.

Bro like everyone else starting out he's gonna run steroids regardless. His minds set. Might as well give him a good beginners cycle before he listens to his buddies telling him to run Hgh but whatevs

 

[danoman27]

Bro like everyone else starting out he's gonna run steroids regardless. His minds set. Might as well give him a good beginners cycle before he listens to his buddies telling him to run Hgh but whatevs

Not at all. I'm not listening to anyone but myself. I stopped listening to friends when I was in my twenties. Haven't made up my mind yet... However, I'm willing to get some good info from whoever wants to dish it out.

Thanks

 

[JuiceIsMyFriend]

Not at all. I'm not listening to anyone but myself. I stopped listening to friends when I was in my twenties. Haven't made up my mind yet... However, I'm willing to get some good info from whoever wants to dish it out.

Thanks

That's good. I forgot you were alot older then these teenagers that have been posting here lately.

 

[joeblow12345]

Hey gang, just wanted to stop in and say hi. I've been reading for the past few days since I joined. Lots of good advice and knowledge here. I'm certainly glad I found this site.

I'm 31, been following a strict weight training regime for the last 2 years. Meaning this isn't an on and off thing for me, it's religious, I don't miss a day. I'm 5'11" 190. My diet is very strict. I've got it down now, where I basically have everything memorized so I'm getting good ratios. I'm happy with the gains I've made over the past year and a half. I've put on about 7 pounds of muscle give or take. My bf percentage is right around 9-10%. currently.

A friend of mine has sparked my interest in AAS. Since this would be my first cycle. Could you recommend a stack or cycle. My buddy has said we could do a Test/ HGH stack. I just want to have all my ducks in a row, take proper precautions and make it worth while.

Is there a section devoted to cycles? As you all know there is a lot of info on the net and I don't know enough yet to be prepared. Anyway, any advice/criticism would be appreciated.

Dan

Your bf is low which is good, but if you only gained 7 lbs of muscle in 2 years thats not so good. I feel like you can gain more naturally before you cross over to the darkside. At your height you should be at least 205 before you juice. Take another year and bulk naturally to gain that 15 lbs then run a test only cycle for 12 weeks. Do not run hgh on a first cycle.

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[C0LUMB0]

Bro like everyone else starting out he's gonna run steroids regardless. His minds set. Might as well give him a good beginners cycle before he listens to his buddies telling him to run Hgh but whatevs

He needs to educate himself first , if he doesnt then - that doesnt justify anyone here telling him to go ahead and cycle.

if you want to help him out - give him good advice... i.e. research and plenty of planning first.

i dont subscribe to that " his mind is set and he's gonna do it anyway " its bullshit.

Thats the way we operate around here.

End of story.

 

[danoman27]

Your bf is low which is good, but if you only gained 7 lbs of muscle in 2 years thats not so good. I feel like you can gain more naturally before you cross over to the darkside. At your height you should be at least 205 before you juice. Take another year and bulk naturally to gain that 15 lbs then run a test only cycle for 12 weeks. Do not run hgh on a first cycle.

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Thanks for the advice. I'll take that into consideration.

 

[RADAR]

The user 'danoman27' has been gifted a platinum membership!

Welcome to Elite you now have full access to the site for 7 days to do your research any Q's just pm me, I have have over 40yrs Experience in the field!

 

[nice shotTX]

Im also new bro. I got my best advice so far from Stevesmi and RADAR. Steve provided the basics for the work out and RADAR just blew my mind with the diet / foods I should eat. I thought I "knew" some stuff, but basically Im overwhelmed. This place is a gold mine for knowledge in healthier living / exercise / body building / AAS.

Enjoy.

 

[rich_89]

Danoman, welcome. When you can answer these questions, you are ready to seek advice and converse with us about steroids.

First of all to reiterate what other bros have said, forget HGH, its fucking abysmal advice for a beginner. You need to do some research about the types of steroids, how they work, the potential sides, and how to counter those sides (AI's, SERMS, test boosters etc). When you have a broader knowledge base, come back and we can talk in more detail.

A cycle should consist of one steroid (for your first cycle)
An aromatase inhibitor on cycle to stop gynecomastia/bloat etc
A substance to stop shutdown and testicular atrophe.
Liver support for an oral (not required for injectibles)
PCT (Various, have a read)

When you have an idea about all of these, then we shall talk in more depth, and we will steer you in the right direction.

 

[RADAR]

Im also new bro. I got my best advice so far from Stevesmi and RADAR. Steve provided the basics for the work out and RADAR just blew my mind with the diet / foods I should eat. I thought I "knew" some stuff, but basically Im overwhelmed. This place is a gold mine for knowledge in healthier living / exercise / body building / AAS.

Enjoy.

The user 'nice shotTX' has been gifted a platinum membership!

 

[obsessedwliftin]

I have to agree with Columbo here bro. Cycling too early can be temptong but when you have so much genetic potential and don't use it it is a waste. REsearch cycles. Research PCT. AI's, all that first. Then you can make an educated decision about what you choose to put in your body. This isn't a game and can have life long effects if not done properly. Welcome to EF. You are in the right place.

 

[danoman27]

Danoman, welcome. When you can answer these questions, you are ready to seek advice and converse with us about.

First of all to reiterate what other bros have said, forget HGH, its fucking abysmal advice for a beginner. You need to do some research about the types of steroids, how they work, the potential sides, and how to counter those sides (AI's, SERMS, test boosters etc). When you have a broader knowledge base, come back and we can talk in more detail.

A cycle should consist of one steroid (for your first cycle)
An aromatase inhibitor on cycle to stop gynecomastia/bloat etc
A substance to stop shutdown and testicular atrophe.
Liver support for an oral (not required for injectibles)
PCT (Various, have a read)

When you have an idea about all of these, then we shall talk in more depth, and we will steer you in the right direction.

Thanks, I'm learning more and more everyday. I've just been scouring threads and stickys trying to get as much info as need.

Dan

 

[Sinister Minister]

Danoman, welcome. When you can answer these questions, you are ready to seek advice and converse with us about.

First of all to reiterate what other bros have said, forget HGH, its fucking abysmal advice for a beginner. You need to do some research about the types of steroids, how they work, the potential sides, and how to counter those sides (AI's, SERMS, test boosters etc). When you have a broader knowledge base, come back and we can talk in more detail.

A cycle should consist of one steroid (for your first cycle)
An aromatase inhibitor on cycle to stop gynecomastia/bloat etc
A substance to stop shutdown and testicular atrophe.
Liver support for an oral (not required for injectibles)
PCT (Various, have a read)

When you have an idea about all of these, then we shall talk in more depth, and we will steer you in the right direction.

^^^ great advice right there!

 

[Sinister Minister]

He needs to educate himself first , if he doesnt then - that doesnt justify anyone here telling him to go ahead and cycle.

if you want to help him out - give him good advice... i.e. research and plenty of planning first.

i dont subscribe to that " his mind is set and he's gonna do it anyway " its bullshit.

Thats the way we operate around here.

End of story.

If you disagree with someone why don't you just state you disagree and why without being a jerk about it? Everyone's entitled to their opinion and I actually agree with juice's outlook. People are gonna do it regardless of what you or I tell em.

 

[theemperor]

We all need to calm down, take a step back and start from scratch.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion BUT lets be savy on giving proper knowledge ,especially someone who has never taken AAS. As Columbo stated and others stated, it IS very important to know what your getting into when you start to play with AAS, in depth research is imperative and important. In MY opinion, I would not mess with AAS until later at ages of 35 and over. Your still producing plenty of that natural Testosterone, the one God gave you naturally. If you have low testosterone and have proof of bloodwork showing, then that would maybe give a reason to go ahead and pull the trigger. MEn start looking at HRT (Hormone replacement therapy) when their body cannot produce enough testosterone on their own. Thats a different ball game a well. Testosterone is a good starter for folks BUT you have to be ready, playa!! You got plenty of time to research.

Now,lets be courteous to each other...please. This goes for everyone!!!
If I hear ANYONE bash each other on here to a disrespecting view or worse, I am going to put down the gavel and I don't want to bant anyone.
Last and final warning!!

Lets continue on with the welcome and hope everyone has a great evening....

 

[Sinister Minister]

Yeah, I kinda figured he was a newb. That's why I came here. I also don't trust his source. Either way, thanks. I'll take your advice and keep on reading.

Dan, welcome bro! I too am new to this site but am a vet with aas and have over 10 yrs experience with it. I'm assuming you came here to seek advice not permission so with that being said here's what you do; basic first cycle is highly recommended to keep as simple as possible and run a test by itself. You should read and research the several types of test and even sustanon to decide which type would best benefit your goals. Make sure you buy everything all together at once (gear and pct cycle). Always keep it low bc you don't know how your body will react and you may encounter some sides which may deter you from aas use all together. Get with Stevesmi and look at the cycle and pct procedure he has in his signature. This is great advice and can help you along and answer questions. PM radar as well if needed as he is very helpful and willing to help as well. Hope my post has helped.

 

[C0LUMB0]

If you disagree with someone why don't you just state you disagree and why without being a jerk about it? Everyone's entitled to their opinion and I actually agree with juice's outlook. People are gonna do it regardless of what you or I tell em.

I dont really care if you agree with his outlook or not , but one thing is for sure...call me a jerk and you get your ass banned.

 

[Gearjunkie]

Welcome bro.

I won't go in details about if you should or should not do a cycle.

Things you should do before you start any sort of cycle

Study and research heaps about your first cycle and the chemicals you going to use.

Look up on POST CYCLE
How to maintain your gains when you go off and get your natural production back ASAP.

DIET key factor in growth, make a diet plan for your cycle and follow it.

Training ....look for the best workout program for your goal.

Have all these thongs sorted before you start any cycle.

I've personally alwAys message radar and Colombo before I start my cycle.
Just cause they have got more experienced then us.

 

[danoman27]

Welcome bro.

I won't go in details about if you should or should not do a cycle.

Things you should do before you start any sort of cycle

Study and research heaps about your first cycle and the chemicals you going to use.

Look up on POST CYCLE
How to maintain your gains when you go off and get your natural production back ASAP.

DIET key factor in growth, make a diet plan for your cycle and follow it.

Training ....look for the best workout program for your goal.

Have all these thongs sorted before you start any cycle.

I've personally alwAys message radar and Colombo before I start my cycle.
Just cause they have got more experienced then us.

Thanks for the advice.

 

[TheSVPdeal]

If you disagree with someone why don't you just state you disagree and why without being a jerk about it? Everyone's entitled to their opinion and I actually agree with juice's outlook. People are gonna do it regardless of what you or I tell em.

Bro, Colombo is looking out for everyone who is new that may want to get involved. For those that are gonna "do it anyway", let them but don't help them fuck themselves up.

In Dano's case, it looks like he's doing his research but personally, he should keep learning.

 

[danoman27]

Well it looks like if I end up going on this ride I'll go with something like needto set up. It looks very thorough and takes a bit of the guess work out for me. Of course I would be taking every one of the recommended steps listed in his lay out. What do you guys think?

Weeks
1-10 Testosterone-E 250mg Twice a week Monday and Thursday or Tuesday and Friday
1-10 N2guard 7 caps every day spread out (optional)
1-4 HCGenerate 3 caps am 2 caps pm (Highly recommended)
4-8 Hcg 500ius Monday and Thursday (Highly recommended)
6-10 HCGenerate 3 caps am 2 caps pm (Must have!)
6-10 Aromasin 12.5mg every other day (highly recommended)
8-14 Need2slin 1 cap 3 times a day 30 mins before meals(optional)
10-16 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and 5 pumps am for the first 4 weeks then taper down to 3 pumps am and pm for the last 2 weeks. (must have!)
10-14 Unleashed/postcycle combo. 1 cap 3 times a day of each. Or at the very least forged post cycle 2 caps am and 2 caps pm (Must have?)
12-16 NTBM-DAA (D aspartic acid) 1 full serving every day. (Highly recommended)
16-20 Bridge 1 cap 3 times a day (highly recommended)
20-24 sarms s4 25mg twice a day(optional)

 

[rich_89]

Well it looks like if I end up going on this ride I'll go with something like needto set up. It looks very thorough and takes a bit of the guess work out for me. Of course I would be taking every one of the recommended steps listed in his lay out. What do you guys think?

Weeks
1-10 Testosterone-E 250mg Twice a week Monday and Thursday or Tuesday and Friday
1-10 N2guard 7 caps every day spread out (optional)
1-4 HCGenerate 3 caps am 2 caps pm (Highly recommended)
4-8 Hcg 500ius Monday and Thursday (Highly recommended)
6-10 HCGenerate 3 caps am 2 caps pm (Must have!)
6-10 Aromasin 12.5mg every other day (highly recommended)
8-14 Need2slin 1 cap 3 times a day 30 mins before meals(optional)
10-16 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and 5 pumps am for the first 4 weeks then taper down to 3 pumps am and pm for the last 2 weeks. (must have!)
10-14 Unleashed/postcycle combo. 1 cap 3 times a day of each. Or at the very least forged post cycle 2 caps am and 2 caps pm (Must have?)
12-16 NTBM-DAA (D aspartic acid) 1 full serving every day. (Highly recommended)
16-20 Bridge 1 cap 3 times a day (highly recommended)
20-24 sarms s4 25mg twice a day(optional)

I recommend you stop ignoring good advice in this thread and stop trying to find 'shortcuts to knowledge' and take the advice that you have been givend and do some fucking research. Reading the intro thread and lifting a pre planned cycle is not research.

Tell me exactly what every one of them compounds is in that cycle and why you need them in the cycle. What do they do for you? Whats the bridge for? Whats the point in it?

Don't come for advice then ignore it mate.

 

[danoman27]

I recommend you stop ignoring good advice in this thread and stop trying to find 'shortcuts to knowledge' and take the advice that you have been givend and do some fucking research. Reading the intro thread and lifting a pre planned cycle is not research.

Tell me exactly what every one of them compounds is in that cycle and why you need them in the cycle. What do they do for you? Whats the bridge for? Whats the point in it?

Don't come for advice then ignore it mate.

Here's a bit of advice to you friend. Don't come in here and act like you have an inkling of an idea what the hell I know, what I'm planning on doing and how much research I've done. You need to settle down man! Seems to me that I'm doing exactly what you think I should do, research.... How many other threads have you seen where someone like me has taken time to ask questions before they went on AAS. I've been on this site for no less than 4 hours per day reading threads over and over again. Funny that you think I shouldn't take into consideration a perfectly good layout for a cycle when a mod posted it. Perhaps I should've just taken my friends advice and just jumped right in. Tell you what why don't you just keep your opinions to yourself and stay out of this thread unless you have something constructive to contribute other than telling me what I shouldn't do.

 

[JuiceIsMyFriend]

Here's a bit of advice to you friend. Don't come in here and act like you have an inkling of an idea what the hell I know, what I'm planning on doing and how much research I've done. You need to settle down man! Seems to me that I'm doing exactly what you think I should do, research.... How many other threads have you seen where someone like me has taken time to ask questions before they went on AAS. I've been on this site for no less than 4 hours per day reading threads over and over again. Funny that you think I shouldn't take into consideration a perfectly good layout for a cycle when a mod posted it. Perhaps I should've just taken my friends advice and just jumped right in. Tell you what why don't you just keep your opinions to yourself and stay out of this thread unless you have something constructive to contribute other than telling me what I shouldn't do.

I like needto's layout. After seeing your training history and diet (going off what you said) I just gave you a simple basic cycle for a first timer. Didn't know I'd get flamed and cause all the drama. I expected you to research it before you jumped on it of course which you said you planned on doing. There's just alot of guys who come here and say they're planning on running their first cycle and list all this stuff like deca or tren and wanna know what we think. They're usually under 22 also. Your obviously more mature then them and that's why I just put that test only cycle out there. Steroids are expensive and it's not just the gear. It's all the things that go with it like proper food for your diet and supplements to help out. That being said the test that I recommended isn't all you should be using. Finish your research and whatever route you decide to take make sure you have all the proper things to go along with it as in an AI, protein etc.

 

[joeblow12345]

Why is there so much hostility going on? I am glad that he is seeking advice from experienced users instead of some shit head at the gym. The point here is to help one another not start a pissing match. Everyone has different opinions on what the best cycle and diet, and when to juice. No one way will work for everyone, but general guidelines apply. I think you should have a minimum of 5 years natural training before you juice. If you can not gain naturally then aas will be a waste. Its a must that you know what each compound does and how to counter any negative sides. This is why research is crucial. If you have any questions on training, diet, or aas then feel free to ask.

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[needtogetaas]

Ya read the taking steroids 101 thread from start to finish first.

 

[danoman27]

I'm just here for advice and opinions. As everyone here knows people will make decisions for themselves. I think I've read all the stickies a few times a piece. Thanks for all the replys, good advice and tips. I'll be keeping everyone posted on what my plans are.

Dan

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[rich_89]

Here's a bit of advice to you friend. Don't come in here and act like you have an inkling of an idea what the hell I know, what I'm planning on doing and how much research I've done. You need to settle down man! Seems to me that I'm doing exactly what you think I should do, research.... How many other threads have you seen where someone like me has taken time to ask questions before they went on AAS. I've been on this site for no less than 4 hours per day reading threads over and over again. Funny that you think I shouldn't take into consideration a perfectly good layout for a cycle when a mod posted it. Perhaps I should've just taken my friends advice and just jumped right in. Tell you what why don't you just keep your opinions to yourself and stay out of this thread unless you have something constructive to contribute other than telling me what I shouldn't do.

I'm sorry for the poor tone of my post mate, i didnt intend that. However. . .

Look on the front page mate. How many 'new member threads' are there? Everyone does it, i did. The point is you came and asked for advice, but then totally disregarded it and just went and got a pre planned cycle. I notice you didnt prove me wrong by telling me about each of those compounds and what they do.

The point is, if i gave u a jar of shit and said this works well, would you just do it?? Why is this any different. Your first cycle should be simple, not HGH, not sarms, just simple. But you completely ignored that advice.

 

[danoman27]

I'm sorry for the poor tone of my post mate, i didnt intend that. However. . .

Look on the front page mate. How many 'new member threads' are there? Everyone does it, i did. The point is you came and asked for advice, but then totally disregarded it and just went and got a pre planned cycle. I notice you didnt prove me wrong by telling me about each of those compounds and what they do.

The point is, if i gave u a jar of shit and said this works well, would you just do it?? Why is this any different. Your first cycle should be simple, not HGH, not sarms, just simple. But you completely ignored that advice.

In regards to the member intro threads. I don't see alot of those. Mostly I see people asking for help after the fact, post cycle or during cycle, not before they even have anything in there hands like me. But I digress.

I'm taking everyone's advice including yours like a grain of salt. Everyone has there own opinions on what works and what doesn't. I already ruled out HGH on the first day I posted. If I can't take what someone one like Needto's cycle as food for thought then this whole community in general should reconsider what they offer as advice. It seems more and more to me that I'm getting negativity rather than actual advice. Everyone is so illusive about everything. I'm not sure how anyone could possibly make up there mind on what to do. That being said, I'm still here to learn regardless of what advice I get.

I vote to move past this and if anyone wants to tell me something concrete like, sarms are taken anally with a fire hose or forma stanzol is to be snorted then ok!

Dan

 

[rich_89]

It seems more and more to me that I'm getting negativity rather than actual advice. Everyone is so illusive about everything. I'm not sure how anyone could possibly make up there mind on what to do. That being said, I'm still here to learn regardless of what advice I get.

I vote to move past this and if anyone wants to tell me something concrete like, sarms are taken anally with a fire hose or forma stanzol is to be snorted then ok!

Dan

Your absolutely correct there mate, everyone is illusive because as a responsible aas community, we don't give advice to those who are not ready/not knowledgeable enough through independent research. You gotta bring something to the table!

But i sound like your dad now, so im not gunna contribute again, good luck anyway, hope you find what you need.

PS, read my post earlier for what your cycle should look like, and research the appropriate compounds,then put a cycle together and get it critiqued. That's the best way forward. . . bros will correct your cycle, but not make it for you.

 

[danoman27]

Your absolutely correct there mate, everyone is illusive because as a responsible aas community, we don't give advice to those who are not ready/not knowledgeable enough through independent research. You gotta bring something to the table!

But i sound like your dad now, so im not gunna contribute again, good luck anyway, hope you find what you need.

PS, read my post earlier for what your cycle should look like, and research the appropriate compounds,then put a cycle together and get it critiqued. That's the best way forward. . . bros will correct your cycle, but not make it for you.

Thanks, will do.

 

[TheSVPdeal]

In regards to the member intro threads. I don't see alot of those. Mostly I see people asking for help after the fact, post cycle or during cycle, not before they even have anything in there hands like me. But I digress.

I'm taking everyone's advice including yours like a grain of salt. Everyone has there own opinions on what works and what doesn't. I already ruled out HGH on the first day I posted. If I can't take what someone one like Needto's cycle as food for thought then this whole community in general should reconsider what they offer as advice. It seems more and more to me that I'm getting negativity rather than actual advice. Everyone is so illusive about everything. I'm not sure how anyone could possibly make up there mind on what to do. That being said, I'm still here to learn regardless of what advice I get.

I vote to move past this and if anyone wants to tell me something concrete like, sarms are taken anally with a fire hose or forma stanzol is to be snorted then ok!

Dan

Coming to this forum and taking our advice with a grain of salt doesn't make a whole lot of sense but whatever. You are getting a lot of negativity. The reason is because nobody feels that you know enough about the chemicals you intend to take. How to avoid that? Read 20-50 hours worth of posts. Instead of asking for help just yet, become a fly on the wall. Learn and you won't have to ask any of these questions. Good luck.

 

[Sinister Minister]

I dont really care if you agree with his outlook or not , but one thing is for sure...call me a jerk and you get your ass banned.

Read the post again, I said you don't have to be a jerk about it...

 

[obsessedwliftin]

Man how did this thread get all negative like this? How about we quit measuring dicks and help the bro out. Bro read up. Get your diet and training in line. Once you have all your research post up your intended cycle, with PCT and ancillaries, and we can critique it and tweak it for you. If you still want the help that is after all this bullshit in this thread.

 

[Sinister Minister]

Man how did this thread get all negative like this? How about we quit measuring dicks and help the bro out. Bro read up. Get your diet and training in line. Once you have all your research post up your intended cycle, with PCT and ancillaries, and we can critique it and tweak it for you. If you still want the help that is after all this bullshit in this thread.

Too much testosterone in this room I guess?? This is a discussion board and I think we all should be able to discuss without getting angry, profane and ugly towards each other. I think it's disappointing that this guy came here for advice and guidance and figured he was doing the smart thing and was bombarded by numerous people telling him to read and learn before anything and this was exactly what he was trying to do...

 

[danoman27]

In regards to my grain of salt comment , what I meant by that was that regardless of the forum, Ive learned, as I'm sure you all have, that everyone claims to be an expert on the internet. I hope that makes sense. It wasn't a dig at anyone particular or an insult towards the forum in general.

Thanks for the help fellas.

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