New Fakes From Europe

[Jan]

NEW FAKES FROM EUROPE - info for you

NEW FAKE
Finally (I was expecting this) there is a fake of Naposim on the market coming from East Europe sources, looks SAME as original, but contains NOTHING. So, if you start 30 mg a day and after 10 days you see no changes, you have this one. Still can not find any difference.

NEW FAKE
Metandrostenolone - still is producing in very good quality, personally prefer and recommend than Naposim, but there is one fake version - original has a mark (like stamp) on the paper box on one of the sides.

OMNADREN - 2 fakes
Old fake has a link around the neck and contains NOTHING, just oíl. It causes painful injection site for a few days after the shot.
New fake - good news, contains 100 mg enantate. It has a point on the neck, just as a original Omnadren, but there is only 100 mg enantate inside. Why? Because as you probably know, JELFA is also producing Prolongatum, stuff with 100 mg enantate in the amps and Prolongatum looks absolutely SAME as Omnadren, only different labels. So, if you change labels, you CAN NOT FIND any difference.

We think, that directly people in JELFA factory are doing this change and because it contains something (100 mg enantate), it is very very hard find this fake version, because with old fake during cycle, you did not feel anything, now you WILL feel something and will be hard to say "this must be only 100 mg, not 250 mg".

The difference between original Omna and fake is the SIZE of the amp, the real one should be 1mm taller than fake one. I will check this again at home.

EXTRABOLINE
Definitely shit, contains almost NOTHING.

DECA DURABOLIN Organon
With yellow caps, new fake, looks same and the good is that contains 175 mg instead of 200 mg what is still nice because of the 1/3 less price.

FAKE
Lipidex, Searle Brazil (Oxandrolone, 2,5mg) - old versions were ok, but this new one version is definitely shit.

FAKE
Here in my country are some fucking idiots producing fake Stromba, Winthrop, look same and contains nothing.

FAKE
Norma Deca. Original has rounded corners of the label on tha amp, FAKE has straight corners.

Take care and use trusted sources

 

[NORMA-MAN]

interesting stuff....
I am most worried about the fake naps

 

[Jan]

interesting stuff....
I am most worried about the fake naps

They are producing this fake in Germany. It is easy to "do not feel anything", so you know very fast that this is fake.

 

[YoungBlood]

BUMP >>>

 

[BigGuns2]

Thanks for the info Jan.

 

[reconnect]

Re: NEW FAKES FROM EUROPE - info for you

EXTRABOLINE
Definitely shit, contains almost NOTHING.

dos that gos for all Extrabolin?

 

[growin']

That SUCKS!!! Why oh why oh why!!! Thanks for the heads up. So much easier to be a crack head than a gear head.

 

[Jan]

Re: Re: NEW FAKES FROM EUROPE - info for you

dos that gos for all Extrabolin?

Yes, the old and little good one contained some small amount of test, so it worked, but now the new production look little different and contains nothing, just some kind of ordinary oil.

Better DO NOT KNOW this, trust me, I am also dissapointed from the news I know.

NEW FAKE
Oxymetholone, 50 mg caps, green label on bottle, 100 caps, NOVA LABS, Spain. Contains just cheap Methyltestosterone.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Thanks for the info buddy

M18

 

[win_s]

Damn, i just received 20 amps of the extraboline deca

 

[Jan]

new fake I forgot

FAKE
veterinary Winstrol Depot, NABOLIC
contains nothing
If you let stand orig. Winstrol, in just a few minutes it will getting condensed (hard to translate, but you know what I mean), THIS not. Maybe just little after a few hours.

 

[Sir Pimpalot]

Jan,

what about the omnas, the difference was size of the amp. Have you checked this out? What should the hight/size be?

 

[micke]

good post,try to get somthing more aboute the omnas.

 

[Jan]

Ok, I have tons of originals at home and also some fakes.

I will exactly measure it and will let you know. There is 1 mm difference but really not sure what is ok.

Is there any address of somebody from mods where I can send BOTH Omnadrens and they would SCAN it?

I do not have a scan, but can send it somebody.

 

[NinjaX]

excellent heads up bro!! It will keep a few of us from wasting hard earned dollars

 

[Jan]

TO MODS:

If you want, establish me a page where I could inform about fakes coming around Europe. At least every month I have some new inforamtions from "first hand".

Could be useful for all, because the fakes about which you can read are almost very old fakes and out of market.

 

[AnabolicAgent]

Jan, you got a PM.

 

[Jan]

PM? Sorry, what is it?

 

[reconnect]

PM=Private Message! where do you get all this info from sorry mabye i should not ask

 

[Sir Pimpalot]

Mods!!!

Give Jan a page for his info!!! Bump for Jan. You rock dude!

The modern version of Sir Lancealot = Sir Pimpalot

 

[reconnect]

yeha im from Europe and would like to know wtf is going on over here BIG BUMP and jan if you find out where they make all that shit tell me and ill go and burn the place down

 

[Jan]

yeha im from Europe and would like to know wtf is going on over here BIG BUMP and jan if you find out where they make all that shit tell me and ill go and burn the place down

I know some places... do not ask me where.

 

[reconnect]

dont worry i won´t

 

[Jan]

dont worry i won´t

The only good thing is that I know the fakes. Otherwise I would probably rather buy a protein.

Anyway, I like this place and will get you informed when I will know something about new fakes.

 

[reconnect]

thanks buddy do you know of any ohter fake d-bol and what to look for

 

[Jan]

I do not know stuff which is going just to US market like IP products, Ttokyo, etc...

I know what is going here inside the Europe. Also some informations are too sensitive to be published. I do not want also to get killed by a car accident, etc...

Informations are money especially in this case. If you know the truth and people can trust you, this is the most you can have.

 

[AnabolicAgent]

Jan you got email.

 

[strengthmonster]

If you want, establish me a page where I could inform about fakes coming around Europe.

That is what the counterfeit discussion board is for or you can set your own member site up via Elites homepage if you like.

 

[Jan]

Ok,

I am writing a page www.ifbb.cz/fakes.htm
and in a few hours I will upload it and on this page I will let you know about fakes.

Everytime It has some new important news, I will let you know also here.

 

[robby]

hi jan

two weeks ago i posted a question about oxandrolone
from spain. my source got those from nova labs. 100ea/
bottle @ 5mg, brown/white, but only 89ea in bottle
(mislabeled).
are all nova labs fake?
pls reply by urgence because tomorrow latest i could
stop my order

thanks jan

robby

 

[Jan]

hi jan

two weeks ago i posted a question about oxandrolone
from spain. my source got those from nova labs. 100ea/
bottle @ 5mg, brown/white, but only 89ea in bottle
(mislabeled).
are all nova labs fake?
pls reply by urgence because tomorrow latest i could
stop my order

thanks jan

robby

Do I understand it right? In bottle where should be 100 pills is just 89??? You do not need my opinion then.

Anyway, I have no personally contact with this product, it is not sold in Europe much, but I do not trust Nova Labs, because there is so much fakes of them and I am not sure if they RELLY exists now and making real steroids.

 

[europe]

extraboline

common jan you cannot say that every extraboline is fake. this is not true. the original one from genepharm greece are good. I can test all my goodies and the extraboline are ok. I don't say that there are no fakes but not all of the extraboline are fake

 

[Jan]

Maybe I am wrong, but I was 10 days ago on holiday in Greece and when I told them and showed them Extrabolin, they DID NOT KNOW what I am talking about.

I bought tons of Deca, Test and some good things but no one pharmacy had idea what Extraboline is.

If somebody is doing it as a undeground factory, no problem, maybe it has something, but OLD extraboline which was here on the market contained test.

 

[bbigman2000]

Interesting info, but I have not seen any fake naps, they would be easy to tell apart as here in the uk we get the box/insert/blisters I find it extremely unlikely that you could be conned into buying fake naps.
I see thousands of these things and would have no problem recognising a duff product.
can you describe the differences please Jan.
Thanks for the other info, I have seen the fake omnas a lot you are 100 % correct there.

 

[europe]

extraboline

jan it is one thing to help people out with good information on fakes. I appreciate that and I am shure everyone does. But it is another thing to talk about something you are not really shure. So you think because you couln't find extraboline in greece it is fake?
No way. The situation is a little bit different. I know that there are fake extraboline in europe especially in germany. There have been around for a long time. But the real one come from genepharm greece. They produce this product for exportation only. Thats why you couldn't find it in greece. But I have real one and have it tested. So if you wish I can send one to you to show you what to look for.

 

[Jan]

Ok, you are maybe right. So far I have not seen right Extraboline in central European black market. And it is a many years. Every Extraboline I have seen was a fake, several different versions.

Why to be worried about Extraboline if you can have for same price right Deca from Organon? BTW: in Hungary they are producing now Deca in very good quality

What I want to say is if you can not be sure, better use something other. If you are not sure about Sustanon, take Omnadren, etc...

 

[AnabolicAgent]

Jan you got more email.

 

[europe]

you can't be shure with any product unless you exactly know where it comes from

 

[biker_UK]

bump... People need to read this.

 

[Jan]

I very often know where the fakes come from...

 

[M Laredo]

Why would they FAKE Naposim. They are a very cheap product. But I say a point, they would be very easy to recreate a small white pill with a triangle on it. Do the fakes come with box and paper work. Are they in blisters?

 

[Jan]

Why would they FAKE Naposim. They are a very cheap product. But I say a point, they would be very easy to recreate a small white pill with a triangle on it. Do the fakes come with box and paper work. Are they in blisters?

Why? It is sold on the market in millions pills.

The easiest way how to fake are pills in blisters. Aprox. 80.000 USD costs you a machine by which you can start producing ANYTHING to the blisters just in a big garage.

You can buy for example 100 kg of Methyl for fucking cheap price and then it is a question of a few days start producing fake pills.

Few years ago I also thought that it is so cheap to be faked, but Dbols has almost EVERYBODY in his cycle. Understand now why?

 

[win_s]

Re: extraboline

jan it is one thing to help people out with good information on fakes. I appreciate that and I am shure everyone does. But it is another thing to talk about something you are not really shure. So you think because you couln't find extraboline in greece it is fake?
No way. The situation is a little bit different. I know that there are fake extraboline in europe especially in germany. There have been around for a long time. But the real one come from genepharm greece. They produce this product for exportation only. Thats why you couldn't find it in greece. But I have real one and have it tested. So if you wish I can send one to you to show you what to look for.

What were the test results??

 

[europe]

win_s you asked about the test results. everything is ok otherwise I woudn't take and recommend it. For me it doesn't matter if someone likes the norma or the deca-durabolin or extraboline. I just don't like if someone is talking about a thing he is not shure and makes a strong post about it. We all have to beware of fakes but before posting a product as totally shit you must be very shure about it. And in this case it is absolutely not true.

 

[The Iron Game]

Do I understand it right? In bottle where should be 100 pills is just 89??? You do not need my opinion then.

lmfao

 

[NORMA-MAN]

REAL extraboline is one of the best decas in the market...

 

[Freak Show]

Jan,
The omnadrens you said were fake, are they from Poland? I just came across these Jelfa Omnadrans and they look down right BUNK. I'm assuming they are the same. 2thick said they are the old ones. You said something about a link around the neck and the real ones being taller. What's a "link"? How can I tell if mine are real? There is no label on em, just printed on the amp itself. If you need more info on what they look like, just ask. Maybe if you got pics? Thanks.

 

[chrome]

freak show-

all omnas are from poland. it sounds like you have the old omnas, but there arent too many of those around so more likely you have a fake. rela omnas should have a white paper label and a dot. no white ring around the neck anymore....

 

[Jan]

SEND ME SOMEBODY reputable your ADDRESS, I will send you for free examples of REAL Omna and 2 fakes now on the market. You will scan it and publish IT HERE for others. I do not have a scanner.