new cycle question

dbell51 · Mar 22, 2007

im running 400mg's of e.q. for 10 weeks
first 5 weeks of test prop at 75 mg's monday,wednesday, friday
then for the next 5 weeks ill be doing 400mg's of test eth
and the last 4 weeks ill be adding winny
AIFM throughout
for my pct ill be doing 50mgs clomid 1 week after my last shot
also will be taking clen....could i use anavar for a pct or would that not work?
also wondering if the switching up of the tests will be ok...only reason i am is b/c i have test prop already and im just gonna man up and shoot up for the 5 weeks even though it hurts

karter · Mar 22, 2007

Do not use Anavar for PCT.

dbell51 · Mar 22, 2007

karter said:
Do not use Anavar for PCT.

i have anavar...where should i throw it in..or should i just save it

looking to lean · Mar 22, 2007

karter said:
Do not use Anavar for PCT.

ditto.

use of another aas is not PCT. take the anavar for the first weeks when you arent taking the winny. then switch to winny to finish. or var all the way thru to finish if you have enough. Id switch from one to the other personally. maybe proviron through out.

EQ should be run 12+weeks and usually 15+ weeks. I would personally drop the EQ for this cycle if you are only going to do 10 weeks. save it for another/longer cycle after. or get more test and EQ and take it to 15 weeks.

AIFM throughout sounds good.

if you are going to switch esters, I would use the prop last... not first. giving TestE's longer ester time to clear as the prop kicks in much sooner and leaves much sooner. this will make PCT make easier. TestP should be EoD or ED.. not MWF. blood level consistancy being the issue.

clomid should be fine for PCT IMO. 4 weeks min...

Im no expert here, just my point of view.

karter · Mar 22, 2007

dbell51 said:
i have anavar...where should i throw it in..or should i just save it

I would save it. You have plenty of gear. If you had to use it you could add it in with the winny.

needtogetaas · Mar 22, 2007

dbell51 said:
im running 400mg's of e.q. for 10 weeks
first 5 weeks of test prop at 75 mg's monday,wednesday, friday
then for the next 5 weeks ill be doing 400mg's of test eth
and the last 4 weeks ill be adding winny
AIFM throughout
for my pct ill be doing 50mgs clomid 1 week after my last shot
also will be taking clen....could i use anavar for a pct or would that not work?
also wondering if the switching up of the tests will be ok...only reason i am is b/c i have test prop already and im just gonna man up and shoot up for the 5 weeks even though it hurts

fuck clomid use dermacrin for pct bro....10x as good.http://www.primordialperformance.com/

and run that eq for longer at least 14 16 would be even better.

dbell51 · Mar 22, 2007

yeah but i heard e.q. is much easier to keep gains than test.....test i lost a good amount of my size once done...

dbell51 · Mar 22, 2007

needtogetas said:
fuck clomid use dermacrin for pct bro....10x as good.http://www.primordialperformance.com/

and run that eq for longer at least 14 16 would be even better.

i have clomid on hand...would dermacrine and clomid stacked be ok or is that to much estrogen suppression?

needtogetaas · Mar 22, 2007

dbell51 said:
i have clomid on hand...would dermacrine and clomid stacked be ok or is that to much estrogen suppression?

dont need the clomid but its still ok to take with derma.

dbell51 · Mar 22, 2007

so is the 10 weeks just to short to show me gains with e.q.?

looking to lean · Mar 22, 2007

Im almost tired of the crazy derma push here. no offense, but somehow this board has gone from having options given to people asking... to "fuck clomid use dermacrin for pct bro....10x as good" and "dont need the clomid but its still ok to take with derma".

I dont know alot about it, but dont disregard years of science for a new product just cuz someone has said to.

Do some research for yourself.

good luck sir

looking to lean · Mar 22, 2007

dbell51 said:
so is the 10 weeks just to short to show me gains with e.q.?

it takes 8 weeks to get to a consistant level in your blood. that leaves 2 weeks of its full potential for your top gains on it.

needtogetaas · Mar 22, 2007

looking to lean said:
Im almost tired of the crazy derma push here. no offense, but somehow this board has gone from having options given to people asking... to "fuck clomid use dermacrin for pct bro....10x as good" and "dont need the clomid but its still ok to take with derma".

I dont know alot about it, but dont disregard years of science for a new product just cuz someone has said to.

Do some research for yourself.

good luck sir

so show me the years of science on clomid being used for pct.o and not on rats ether.

needtogetaas · Mar 22, 2007

looking to lean said:
Im almost tired of the crazy derma push here. no offense, but somehow this board has gone from having options given to people asking... to "fuck clomid use dermacrin for pct bro....10x as good" and "dont need the clomid but its still ok to take with derma".

I dont know alot about it, but dont disregard years of science for a new product just cuz someone has said to.

Do some research for yourself.

good luck sir

and you might as well get used to it.dermacrin works for pct so I am going to keep telling people to use it.....is there some thing wrong with telling som one to use some thing that works and is going to help them....no I think not.

Mac173 · Mar 22, 2007

Run the test e from the beginning. Test e takes 4-6wks to kick in so there will be a big gap between the time the prop clears and the test e kicks in.

Run the prop eod not 3x/wk.

Run eq minimum 12wks and I wouldn't go lower than 600.

Var shouldn't be run for PCT, it is suppressive.

Start the clomid 2-3wks since you are using eq or end the eq a wk before the test and start clomid 2wks after the test.

dbell51 · Mar 22, 2007

if i run the prop after the eth then what should i do to kick start my cycle....thats why i was going to do the prop in the beginning

SpyWizard · Mar 22, 2007

looking to lean said:
ditto.

use of another aas is not PCT. take the anavar for the first weeks when you arent taking the winny. then switch to winny to finish. or var all the way thru to finish if you have enough. Id switch from one to the other personally. maybe proviron through out.

EQ should be run 12+weeks and usually 15+ weeks. I would personally drop the EQ for this cycle if you are only going to do 10 weeks. save it for another/longer cycle after. or get more test and EQ and take it to 15 weeks.

AIFM throughout sounds good.

if you are going to switch esters, I would use the prop last... not first. giving TestE's longer ester time to clear as the prop kicks in much sooner and leaves much sooner. this will make PCT make easier. TestP should be EoD or ED.. not MWF. blood level consistancy being the issue.

clomid should be fine for PCT IMO. 4 weeks min...

Im no expert here, just my point of view.

but your point of view is right on...

the issue with doing prop then the test e.. there will be about 3-4 weeks before the test e kicks in.. so we will see about 3 weeks where your test levels will be low..

looking to lean · Mar 22, 2007

needtogetas said:
and you might as well get used to it.dermacrin works for pct so I am going to keep telling people to use it.....is there some thing wrong with telling som one to use some thing that works and is going to help them....no I think not.

not trying to ruffle your feathers Need. not at all. just seeing that post non-stop and had to say my peace. nuff said.

Mac173 · Mar 22, 2007

dbell51 said:
if i run the prop after the eth then what should i do to kick start my cycle....thats why i was going to do the prop in the beginning

You run them both from the beginning.

luke_moore · Mar 22, 2007

needtogetas said:
fuck clomid use dermacrin for pct bro....10x as good.

Any you've personally run it as PCT? So you know first hand?

xrsist · Mar 22, 2007

luke_moore said:
Any you've personally run it as PCT? So you know first hand?

where in australia you from?

luke_moore · Mar 22, 2007

xrsist · Mar 22, 2007

luke_moore said:
nsw

no worries bro i used to know a bloke that used to go by the name luke moore in sa

needtogetaas · Mar 22, 2007

luke_moore said:
Any you've personally run it as PCT? So you know first hand?

yes with test results to go with it.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537359&highlight=Dermacrine

needtogetaas · Mar 22, 2007

luke_moore said:
Any you've personally run it as PCT? So you know first hand?

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