New cycle idea?help pls

[mad_muncher]

hey guys. this is my 1st post, although ive been browsing for a while. im 23, 90kgs, 5'8. have done 2 cycles-
test e 750mg ew x 12, dbol 50mg ed x 6 weeks.
sust 500mg ew x 12, deca 400mg ew x 12, dbol 50mg x 6 weeks (start), stanz 50mg ed x 6 weeks (end of cycle)

i was thinking about doing something a little more this time-

weeks 1-12- sust 600mg ew
deca 400mg ew
bold 400mg ew
weeks 1-5 - anadrol 50mg ed
weeks 8-14 stanz 50mg ed

clen start week 6, 2 wks on 2 wks off, 80mcg ed
hcg, nolva, clomid pct
0.5mg adex e3d, 10mg nolva ed throughout cycle

any thoughts?

 

[Makavelli]

hey guys. this is my 1st post, although ive been browsing for a while. im 23, 90kgs, 5'8. have done 2 cycles-
test e 750mg ew x 12, dbol 50mg ed x 6 weeks.
sust 500mg ew x 12, deca 400mg ew x 12, dbol 50mg x 6 weeks (start), stanz 50mg ed x 6 weeks (end of cycle)

i was thinking about doing something a little more this time-

weeks 1-12- sust 600mg ew
deca 400mg ew
bold 400mg ew
weeks 1-5 - anadrol 50mg ed
weeks 8-14 stanz 50mg ed

clen start week 6, 2 wks on 2 wks off, 80mcg ed
hcg, nolva, clomid pct
0.5mg adex e3d, 10mg nolva ed throughout cycle

any thoughts?

What are you trying to accomplish?

 

[joe d]

i would drop the nolva during the cycle and add bromo

 

[mad_muncher]

trying out bulk again, with a plan of hardening my gains, hence the bold and stanz at the end, i then hope in a few months to go on a prop, tren, mast cut!

 

[rambleon]

1. Don't take nolva with a nandrolone such as deca. This can actually worsen the progesterone/prolactine gyno that nandrolones can cause.

2. Drop either the deca or the eq and adjust the dose of the one u keep.

The role they logically play in a cycle like urs is similar even if the deca will cause way more water retention than the eq. Therefore one of them is redundant in ur cycle.

My logic goes like this:

sust = base
Deca/eq = secondary anabolic
abombs = kickoff
Winny = finisher

Personally i absolutely hate abombs and my dislike for deca is almost as intense. The bloat is going to be huge but the adex and the clen is going to help with that i guess.

Anyways i hope u'll succeed in what u're trying to accomplish with this.

 

[zack!!!]

1. Don't take nolva with a nandrolone such as deca. This can actually worsen the progesterone/prolactine gyno that nandrolones can cause.

2. Drop either the deca or the eq and adjust the dose of the one u keep.

The role they logically play in a cycle like urs is similar even if the deca will cause way more water retention than the eq. Therefore one of them is redundant in ur cycle.

My logic goes like this:

sust = base
Deca/eq = secondary anabolic
abombs = kickoff
Winny = finisher

Personally i absolutely hate abombs and my dislike for deca is almost as intense. The bloat is going to be huge but the adex and the clen is going to help with that i guess.

Anyways i hope u'll succeed in what u're trying to accomplish with this.

so if where using an nandrolone witch in my case i will be doing a anavar test p an tren cycle would i still be able to use nolva in my pct because so far it seems i have people saying i can't an im not sure why

 

[mad_muncher]

thanks mate- thats very clear, i will drop the eq and save it for another time.

 

[mad_muncher]

but what if i experience gyno?can i then run the nolva?
also- will the eq make no difference at all?
thanks

 

[GOLUAN]

but what if i experience gyno?can i then run the nolva?
also- will the eq make no difference at all?
thanks

If your prone to gyno, i suggest letro. Love the stuff! Keeps some of that water retention off also.

 

[rambleon]

but what if i experience gyno?can i then run the nolva?
also- will the eq make no difference at all?
thanks

No. If u're running deca do not touch nolva period.

As Luang_go says go with a light dose of letro.

I highly doubt the eq will make any difference to that cycle if u are running deca. My personal preference would be dropping the deca and using the eq but that's ur choice.

 

[mad_muncher]

Anyways i hope u'll succeed in what u're trying to accomplish with this.[/quote]

errr.............i thought it was obvisous that it was SIZE i was after.lol

 

[WinnyPumps]

hey guys. this is my 1st post, although ive been browsing for a while. im 23, 90kgs, 5'8. have done 2 cycles-
test e 750mg ew x 12, dbol 50mg ed x 6 weeks.
sust 500mg ew x 12, deca 400mg ew x 12, dbol 50mg x 6 weeks (start), stanz 50mg ed x 6 weeks (end of cycle)

i was thinking about doing something a little more this time-

weeks 1-12- sust 600mg ew
deca 400mg ew
bold 400mg ew
weeks 1-5 - anadrol 50mg ed
weeks 8-14 stanz 50mg ed

clen start week 6, 2 wks on 2 wks off, 80mcg ed
hcg, nolva, clomid pct
0.5mg adex e3d, 10mg nolva ed throughout cycle

any thoughts?

1-14 Sus 500mg wk
1-14 EQ 400mg wk
1-4 Whatever kickstart you want, no experience with abombs
9-15 Winny 50mg ed
Have adex on hand.

I would for sure with out a doubt go for pure mass on that cycle! Or a lean bulker but no matter what I would go for pure muscle gain and don't get real cute with ur diet most of the time. You could get massive and strong as shit! Maybe really tighten up the diet towards the end when you add Winny to clean up your gains. Good luck bro!

 

[RADAR]

If You want Size & Rock hard gains then i would Suggest the following.
Dbol 1-4 50mg ew
weeks 1-12- sust 600mg ew
deca 500mg ew
Masterdon 500 ew

RADAR

 

[mad_muncher]

thanks guys, might throw some mast in there at the end. or save it for my prop, tren a, mast cut cycle next time round

 

[Makavelli]

I always take nolva with tren with no probs. So do all my guys. Even with deca no problems. I don't know where all this "nolva is evil shit" came from but in the real world I haven't seen it affect anyone. I use nolva to keep cholesterol in check when using winstrol.

 

[mad_muncher]

yeah mate- its news to me, but its only my 3rd cycle so im no pro by a long way!so i am still unsure but il leave it until i need it!the adex will sort me out at .5mg e3d. when i was doing 1mg ed i rekon it seriously hinderd my gains!i was doing sust 500mg ew with deca 400mg ew. i gained far more on the test e at 750mg ew.

been doing the drol for 6 days now at 100mg ed and its ok i guess so far, but i think it kicks in next week!cant wait for that feeling u get from test or sust, the deca and bold will be a nice addition i hope!

 

[mad_muncher]

just finished day 7. i am up 11lbs. feeling like its about to kick in. never had that on dbol. feeling stronger also, might do a week on 100mg then drop the drol to 50mg and put 1 extra week on it. cant waqit for the sust and deca to kick. never done eq b4 so will be interesting.