NervousNewbie...Needs Advices...

[AlexDavey]

Hello, ive posted this elsewhere, but would like to see your guys opinion...

I need some *advices* !

When I was 21, i started working out, and decided to jump straight into anabolic steroids. I then decided that i was not in fact, a retard, so proceeded to experiment with my body naturally. Well, i managed to gain 56lbs of (mainly) muscle, and then lose it all again (on purpose), just by manipulation of diet and exercise.

Now im very average in stature. Im 5ft10, weigh 150. and have 6% bodyfat (i believe this to be inaccurate, as it was done with an electric machine, and im sure i carry more fat that that, or maybe its just water...)

I am interested in a much leaner, harder psysique, i have NO intention of becoming bigger, i want quality not quantity. The most i would want to gain is 6lbs...

I have thought about doing this naturally, it would not be too much of a problem as my diet exercise ritual is pretty decent (ie i eat every 2 hours, mainly fish - with turkey, and red meat thrown in with lots of veggies and salad etc, working out cardio AM and weights PM) but i realise that with my body type, i would not be able to become as lean and hard as i would with anabolics. Plus were i to be assisted it would happen a lot quicker.

Anyway, with these goals in mind, i have managed to gain access to some British Dragon Primobol. The question is, are these reputable or would it have been made by a guy with a bathtub...and would a ONE month cycle of this (250mg per week) be of ANY use, even if it were just to see if i enjoy the *lifestyle*...

I can also get my hands on various products, including Winstrol (25mg per tab), would this be better, should i stack the two, dosages, one month long enough etc !!!

I know a lot of people reading this, cant wait to type *USE TESTOSTERONE YOU PUSSY!*, but please DONT, REMEMBER i want minimal QUALITY gains with LITTLE or NO sides!

Thanks guys, i really appreciate your help here!!!

 

[krishna]

Winny alone is good for lean quality gains. Just curious, why would you lose 56 pounds of muscle on purpose?

 

[Bruce]

winny only or anavar only, winny makes joints hurt real bad for a lot of us, whereas anavar strengthens the tendons and joints. now if you really only want 6lbs anavar is plenty but you need to run it at a high dose of 50 preferably 75mg ed which could be pricey. primo needs to be run at 400-600 a week, so 250 is a waist. your other choice could be tbol for 4 weeks and you would definitely put on 6 lbs and then run pct. British Dragon is one of the best products around period. anvavar and tbol are both orals, and no tbol is not dbol it promotes quality gains not. if you are set on injecting then do winny 50mg ed, but it will hurt your joints, or even eq at 400 a week, but then your looking at 12 weeker with eq.

 

[digit0x]

Prepare to be trashed bro. The guys here arent cruel, but they speak the truth. Nothing your saying really makes any sense... Why lose 56 pounds intentionally? 4 weeks for a cycle? You claim to know nutrition, and regular workouts, but you haven't leaned out? uhm... 6 pounds? You don't need anabolics of any kind to do this. Lots of cardio in the gym with some egg whites will thin you up fast. Don't take this the wrong way, but you sound confused. To be at least slightly helpful... I would put away the primobol and maybe get some clenbuterol, IF that.

 

[smaretick]

winny only or anavar only, winny makes joints hurt real bad for a lot of us, whereas anavar strengthens the tendons and joints. now if you really only want 6lbs anavar is plenty but you need to run it at a high dose of 50 preferably 75mg ed which could be pricey. primo needs to be run at 400-600 a week, so 250 is a waist. your other choice could be tbol for 4 weeks and you would definitely put on 6 lbs and then run pct. British Dragon is one of the best products around period. anvavar and tbol are both orals, and no tbol is not dbol it promotes quality gains not. if you are set on injecting then do winny 50mg ed, but it will hurt your joints, or even eq at 400 a week, but then your looking at 12 weeker with eq.

I agree...if you're looking for a short cycle with quick gains try tbol...but if you go with orals, do some research on protecting your liver & PCT. To attempt to gain only 6lbs you should be able to do that naturally by manipulating your diet (i.e., increasing your protein, carbs).

 

[Apexx]

why the fuck would you want to lose 56lbs of muscle on purpose?????

 

[ruggermu]

Yeah bro I also can't figure out why you would loose muscle on purpose
(we must have different goals).

 

[Bruce]

by the way i in no way feel u should touch anabolics, as it is apparent you could put on that 56 natty, and not to mention as said above you could put on 6 natty fuck even 12, so my cycles are just non biased answers to your question, but i don't think you should be using anabolics, sounds like you want a quick easy 6 pounds, nothing is easy, and your spending all that money on gear and ancillaries and anti e for 6 weeks, just bad idea.

 

[smaretick]

by the way i in no way feel u should touch anabolics, as it is apparent you could put on that 56 natty, and not to mention as said above you could put on 6 natty fuck even 12, so my cycles are just non biased answers to your question, but i don't think you should be using anabolics, sounds like you want a quick easy 6 pounds, nothing is easy, and your spending all that money on gear and ancillaries and anti e for 6 weeks, just bad idea.

How true...as I stated previously, you should be able to gain 6 lbs naturally.

 

[bw1]

Average? 5'10" 150? If you only want 6 lbs, you could do that natty. Why 6? Why not 5 or 10? I don't get the 56lb muscle loss thing either. Doesn't make sense