NervousNewbie...Needs Advices...

[tommy39]

You know i have heard alot of newbies talk about not wanting alot of muscle. I think you might believe you are going to blow up and be huge overnight using a reg. cycle. That wont happen unless you are dialed in on diet and training. And using a good cycle not just a 6lb gainer. Do you think someone might think your on roids? Unless you want to put on some worthwhile size i recomend supps. and plenty of food. Why even use a tad of drugs? Think about what you really want.

 

[Synpax]

Hi,

Your post makes little sense, but here's some advice.

You are a skinny dude, first of all, and you probably don't have much muscle. Just start counting your calories, aim for about 2800 (30 protein, 50 good carbs) and drink a lot of water and lift lift lift. You will gain 6 lbs within about 6 months - 6 lbs of muscle.

Don't mess with roids, you don't know what you are doing naturally.

 

[AlexDavey]

Thanks for the responses guys... Heres the deal...

I did put on all the weight mentioned naturally, and then i lost it all on purpose. For starters, i realised i was uncomfortable at that weight. I was pushing 200lbs, and at 5ft 10 with the frame i have (pretty small), was carrying too much weight. Also, I was, as i mentioned, only experimenting too see what my body could do naturally, so i upped the cardio and lifted a lot lighter with higher reps. I was doing this Monday-Friday, Cardio-AM, Weights-PM. My diet was VERY strict. I lost all the weight i had gained, and now feel more comfortable the way i am...Right now, im pretty average. My experimenting naturally is done and dusted, its been years in the making, man, ive paid my dues!

HOWEVER, i would like to improve the QUALITY of my physique. Although i CAN gain muscle naturally, the quality of physique is not where i would like it. I do not in ANY WAY, want to be a big bodybuilder. Becoming huge is not a priority for me. This is why i opted for Primo. I thought at 250mg per week for 8 weeks I would get a minimal, quality gain, and tighten up the whole package. I also thought this of Winny, but decided after A LOT of research that it may be too detrimental.

Im still under the impression that im hoing to have to experiment with my own body to see how I react, everyone is different, i know. I really appreciate constructive advice, im not a 16 year old boy who has to see results TODAY, however, im not a *naturalist* who subscribes to the theory of *oh, you can get the physique you want naturally, it just takes longer*. I think this is, to put it bluntly, a load of old shit!

AS for Anavar suggestions, from what i remember its 17AA, which im not keen on. If i didnt mind 17AA, i would head for the good old Winny. Clen is always possible i suppose, maybe i should give that a shot...

Anyways, thanks again guys, i really appreciate the time you take to help a dude out...

 

[Bruce]

bro all orals are the 17AA. anavar is probably the safest steroid you could use, winny is way harsher on your liver,

 

[bw1]

bro all orals are the 17AA. anavar is probably the safest steroid you could use, winny is way harsher on your liver,

Oral primo is not a c17. You are correct, Anavar seems to be very mild and well tolerated by the liver. I still think he can get what he's looking for natty, with clean diet and hard training. If he is going to run something I think primo or var would be good choices.

 

[AlexDavey]

Okay, granted anavar is only slightly toxic, but ive heard primo enanthate is not at all toxic. My question is, would 8 weeks at 250mg per week give me ANY quality gains, or would the minimum dose be 500mg per week. Bear in mind my stats, im no ronnie coleman here!!!

NOTE - Posts by people who have used primo enanthate would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

 

[Bruce]

the answer is still no, primo is so mild it must be run 400-600 it is not test, if you wanna run an injectable i told you eq is fine at 400 a week you will get some quality gains, but for what you want anavar is the way to go, pct will be next to nothing, you will be harder more vascular and ripped up with high doses of var. u should really do it natty but i am done lecturing, eq or var buddy pick one, primo only if you wanna run it longer and higher but its a waster. anavar is given to children who have trouble growing, okay though it is hard on the liver i know of people taking it for 12 weeks without a prob on the liver, and dbol which is notorious for the liver is given to aids patients on a daily basis for long periods without liver damage, its good to care about the liver, but one oral at a time is ok if you don't drink

 

[chase152]

Feels like we are living in bizzarro world.

 

[AlexDavey]

Thanks for taking the time out to explain this to me Bruce. I got what you said loud and clear. Im gonna do a little more research of my own, no harm in waiting. Thanks guys...

 

[will b huge]

WOW, (Very Confused here?????)

You lost 56 pounds of natural muscle on PURPOSE......BUT NOW, want to use a drug to put back on 6 pounds of muscle??????

WHY DIDNT YOU JUST LOSE 50 pounds of MUSCLE instead of 56??????? or 45 pounds and then use your "Strict Diet" to harden up........Although, I find it VERY HARD to believe that you lost 56 pounds of muscle without being 3 percent body fat.....If you lost that much muscle, your fat would be GONE!!!!!!!

Once again, WOW....the most surprising post I have ever read........