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Nelson PCT question...??????

I know you hate nolva, what do you recommended for a a mild PCT.

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I'm not sure if there's such a thing. PCT only does so much -- it either works quickly or slowly. Now, if you did a month of nothing but 400mgs of primo, you could probably get away with just some supps. But in general, I believe it's best to do everything you can to restore the HPTA and avoid a crash.

I recommend HCG or HMG -- not much , just 1000 i.u's for a couple of days.

Then use

UNLEASHED

Aromasin -- 1/4 tab EOD

POST CYCLE

Follow with BRIDGE to maintain that "on" feeling.

That's it. Doing "more" drugs won't give you "more " recovery. The key with PCT is to get your body working on its own. This is the best way to go.
 
I have some armidex and some hgc. and HCGenerate. Just 4 weeks of anavar.
How long should I run em after.

Also, why the nolva hate.
 
I have some armidex and some hgc. and HCGenerate. Just 4 weeks of anavar.
How long should I run em after.

Also, why the nolva hate.


I like HCGenerate while on cycle to slow suppression, but it can be added afterward as well.

Nolva makes me feel like shit. It kills libido. There is zero evidence it restores HPTA faster than not using anything. It lowers IGF, lessens gains, east away at bone, lowers red blood cell count, has a rebound effect that can raise estrogen after usage and it raises LDL.
 
I like HCGenerate while on cycle to slow suppression, but it can be added afterward as well.

Nolva makes me feel like shit. It kills libido. There is zero evidence it restores HPTA faster than not using anything. It lowers IGF, lessens gains, east away at bone, lowers red blood cell count, has a rebound effect that can raise estrogen after usage and it raises LDL.

Nelson is there any point in using hcgenerate while on cycle if you are already using hcg...? or would that be over-kill..?
 
Nelson is there any point in using hcgenerate while on cycle if you are already using hcg...? or would that be over-kill..?

I don;t believe in using HCG on cycle. USe it when you need it.

Yes, it would be overkill because the Generate raises LH naturally but the HCG mimics it, (to a higher degree of course) so it'll just offset what you produce for the most part.
 
I don;t believe in using HCG on cycle. USe it when you need it.

Yes, it would be overkill because the Generate raises LH naturally but the HCG mimics it, (to a higher degree of course) so it'll just offset what you produce for the most part.

I can say from personal experience that it does not do the job real hcg does! I used it on cycle and experienced testicular atrophy and used it after PCT (3 bottles total) where I did blood tests that proved I had a low LH; and I was on HCGenerate for 4 weeks before this test! So this 'natural' production of LH is non existant as far as I've experienced.... Use real HCG please!

My test results:
LH: 2.6 (mlU/mL)...........normal range----------> 1.7 - 8.6 (mIU/mL)​


FSH: 3.4 (mlU/mL)........normal range-----------> 1.5 - 12.4 (mIU/mL)

 
I have been bumping 500ius a week of HCG while on this little 4 weeker, im rolling into 4 weeks of sarms, so I will keep on wit it.
 
I can say from personal experience that it does not do the job real hcg does! I used it on cycle and experienced testicular atrophy and used it after PCT (3 bottles total) where I did blood tests that proved I had a low LH; and I was on HCGenerate for 4 weeks before this test! So this 'natural' production of LH is non existant as far as I've experienced.... Use real HCG please!

My test results:
LH: 2.6 (mlU/mL)...........normal range----------> 1.7 - 8.6 (mIU/mL)​


FSH: 3.4 (mlU/mL)........normal range-----------> 1.5 - 12.4 (mIU/mL)


Of course it doesn't work as well as real HCG. It's meant as a natty boost, which can be beneficial, but it will not restore HPTA that has been shut down. I've always recomeneded using real HCG PCT and follow with BRIDGE to maintain levels.

Realize also, even HCG will not maintain elevated levels. That's why it's good to follow with supps to help the body recover on its own.
 
So WHat about 200ml of test cyp every5 days for the past 10 weeks. I was planning on running nolva but I do respect your opinion nelson so I am really starting to re think that idea. What if i just run armidex .05 eod for a few weeks?...lik start 2 weeks after last injection and run it for like 4 weeks? WHat you think of that?
 
wow this is a great thread and all this time i thought I had a great PCT lined up but i guess i should tweak it a little bit cause nelson you know your shit so i am gonna take your advice.

just a couple of questions......

most effective place to inject hcg for PCT? i have some on the way now. and when is the best time to inject? 2-3 weeks after last injection of test?
 
Also in addition to my other post....is bridge suppressive?...would it help to throw it in with the arimdex?
 
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