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big tav

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Hi everyone, I have been reading some of Nelsons work and he sounds to me like he is one of the great gurus out there. I like how he writes and is not afraid to speak the truth. I know that what I am reading sounds true and I know it is his opinion as well but so far so good. I trust him.

What do you all think of him and his writing? The Bodybuilding Truth and Bottomline Bodybuilding are really great reads and I highly recommend them. Better advice in these than every magazine I have ever read put together.
 
big tav said:
Hi everyone, I have been reading some of Nelsons work and he sounds to me like he is one of the great gurus out there. I like how he writes and is not afraid to speak the truth. I know that what I am reading sounds true and I know it is his opinion as well but so far so good. I trust him.

What do you all think of him and his writing? The Bodybuilding Truth and Bottomline Bodybuilding are really great reads and I highly recommend them. Better advice in these than every magazine I have ever read put together.
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he's the greatest GURU ever! :rolleyes:
 
he started his own board with Fonz, Animal and DIV. Everybody just argues all day even about shit they agree on.
 
There's a few names I had't seen around here in a while. Animal...that goes back some.

Funny Dail_tone!
 
animal was like the original guy to sell kits. I know he got busted years back, more like got harrassed because of his kits he sold, but i heard they found nothing illegal. But i never got to really find out what happened.
 
I liked Nelson he gave his opinion and presented it very well IMHO. Problem is many could not read and absorb then make their mind up to subscribe or not without getting into a ''slanging'' match.

I miss Nelson his debates were good and healthy for the increase in knowledge of AAS he is a loss to the board

Wrongun!
 
Dial_tone said:
he started his own board with Fonz, Animal and DIV. Everybody just argues all day even about shit they agree on.
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LOL :D
You mean the Noble Prize winners group :o?

They ALL 3 did contribute some GOOD READING, but you are right in that they often FOUGHT AND FOUGHT on here :o. It used to give me a headache more often than I was able to learn something :(
(which was too bad as they ALL insisted on leading EVERYTIME instead of working together, when necessary :o)
 
I think he ws good for the board, presented a different view and made you think in a different way IMO. Board needs its characters.
 
never understood why nelson and division were banned. must have missed what they did besides stir things up a little. seems like division got banned because satch decided he didnt like him. i am sure there was more, but who can keep up with all this stuff?

fonz deserved to be banned. besides being a liar and a SCAMMER. just the type of guy everyone hates.
 
Nelson was banned? WHY????

Why is "The BodyBuilding Truth" still being sold on here then if they won't even let him on here? What a waste!
 
everyone that's banned, is banned with good reason, we do a vote before anything like that happens
 
I'm old school too so I actually agreed with Nelson half the time. The other half he was off the deep end.
 
Dial_tone said:
I'm old school too so I actually agreed with Nelson half the time. The other half he was off the deep end.
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Bingo :)
Half the time I thought he was RIGHT ON spot :D

The other half it was like he jumped out of the building and thought he could fly (only to find out he COULDNT :D)
 
Wrongun said:
I liked Nelson he gave his opinion and presented it very well IMHO. Problem is many could not read and absorb then make their mind up to subscribe or not without getting into a ''slanging'' match.

I miss Nelson his debates were good and healthy for the increase in knowledge of AAS he is a loss to the board

Wrongun!
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I absolutely 100% agree with you. It was also humerous to watch everyone flame him and how controversial he was. He was either a pure genius or a total retard. I never took sides so I couldn't give less of a shit.

CHris
 
Dial_tone said:
he started his own board with Fonz, Animal and DIV. Everybody just argues all day even about shit they agree on.
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Yeah, but Fonz can be pretty busy and hard to get ahold of. Whether its playing professional soccer, international modeling, meeting with foreign governments, space explorations and scamming :D
 
boyer said:
Yeah, but Fonz can be pretty busy and hard to get ahold of. Whether its playing professional soccer, international modeling, meeting with foreign governments, space explorations and scamming :D
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lmfao K
 
All in all we the members lost out. I thought when Nelson got his own section then those who wanted to read and reply would and others who could not stand him would nto bother entering. That though is far too simple too many made up alters etc just to provoke a response and i really do think we lost a great member in nelson who would give an opposite view and as people have said i actually agreed with many times and otehrs i did not.

Who really 100% knows what is correct?

Wrongun!
 
Can you guys please tell me what you thought he was off/wrong about? I have been reading his stuff and it seems great. I am wondering just where you saw the problems were with his theories. Don't be shy guys! I want to try some of his stuff and I want to know where you think the problems are with what he wrote so I can think it over for myself. Thanks!!!
 
there was a lot of suspicion that nelson would use alters to back up his arguments and tout his products when it was really him.
 
Wrongun said:
All in all we the members lost out. I thought when Nelson got his own section then those who wanted to read and reply would and others who could not stand him would nto bother entering. That though is far too simple too many made up alters etc just to provoke a response and i really do think we lost a great member in nelson who would give an opposite view and as people have said i actually agreed with many times and otehrs i did not.

Who really 100% knows what is correct?

Wrongun!
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i agree with wrongun here i miss all the debates....people would get too bent out of shape because they didnt agree with him.....kept the board exciting...its gotten so blah the last year
 
LMFAO.......so true
boyer said:
Yeah, but Fonz can be pretty busy and hard to get ahold of. Whether its playing professional soccer, international modeling, meeting with foreign governments, space explorations and scamming :D
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tiger88 said:
I am kind of curious about nelsons book bbing truth...

i think i may break down and get it
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it is supposed to be very basic and bennificial to only the begginer...some people still need to read though the think they are in the "know"..LMAO
 
bicepts101 said:
it is supposed to be very basic and bennificial to only the begginer...some people still need to read though the think they are in the "know"..LMAO
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eh another one of those :rolleyes: not very conteversial then...

i was hoping it talk about some off the wall cycles and off the way training ideas.. :rolleyes:
 
tiger88 said:
eh another one of those :rolleyes: not very conteversial then...

i was hoping it talk about some off the wall cycles and off the way training ideas.. :rolleyes:
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yeah that would be cool....i wonder what that chemical enhancment book consists of....like what kind of cycles...propably the same old shit
 
glennds said:
there was a lot of suspicion that nelson would use alters to back up his arguments and tout his products when it was really him.
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He DID that at I-T (Canuck4 and I caught him doing it :o)

Either that or it was someone using his EXACT Tivo connection IP address :rolleyes:
 
big tav said:
Hi everyone, I have been reading some of Nelsons work and he sounds to me like he is one of the great gurus out there. I like how he writes and is not afraid to speak the truth. I know that what I am reading sounds true and I know it is his opinion as well but so far so good. I trust him.

What do you all think of him and his writing? The Bodybuilding Truth and Bottomline Bodybuilding are really great reads and I highly recommend them. Better advice in these than every magazine I have ever read put together.
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Nelson Montana another alter huh?
 
Well I disagree a bit guys. I just read the Bodybuilding Truth and Bottomline Bodybuilding and I thought they were outstanding. I say get them tiger88. Very worth it and not for the beginner. Just because it doesn't talk about what someone like Ronnie would take doesn't mean it is for beginers. I am no where near a beginner and I stayed up for hours reading them. Excellent. If you buy magazines oin bodybuilding then you will be much better off buying the Neslon stuff by far.
 
Nelson's primary error in logical deduction had to do with what the body prioitizes as fuel in a starved state. He believed that the body cannibalized muscle before fat always ( a common misconception). I successfully argued the truth, pointing out that ketosis would be impossible if the body perpetually prioritized muscle as a fuel substrate over fat (as well as several other irrefutable points of logic) but he would not capitulate and ultimately resorted to personal attacks and sophistry.

That being said, Nelson's intelligent contributions more than made up for his occaisional childish outbursts and misconceptions, not to mention he was a colorful character all around.

I miss him.
 
bicepts101 said:
yeah that would be cool....i wonder what that chemical enhancment book consists of....like what kind of cycles...propably the same old shit
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also wondering about the book "anabolic edge"
 
Fukkenshredded said:
That being said, Nelson's intelligent contributions more than made up for his occaisional childish outbursts and misconceptions, not to mention he was a colorful character all around.

I miss him.
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Very true statement IMHO and learnt a lot from the debate (NOT ARGUMENT) that Fukkenshredded & Nelson had.

I think more should have been done to prevent the constant ''goading'' Nelson was subjected too by a few (i.e Fonz and Juice Authority) whcih could have allowed good solid debate to continue

Wrongun!
 
bicepts101 said:
everytime we get someone that speaks their mind...they get banned....
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The problem with Nelson speaking his mind was:

He was telling newbies and vets alike that documented clinical evidence was in fact false. This gave him the platform to discredit most anything just because "he said so"

IMHO he got what he had coming. I've read his "The Bodybuilding Truth" book, and I liked it.

Having said that, he should not have been badgered like he was by most people.
 
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