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Nelson Montana - post cycle and unleashed

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I just ordered both of these. They have not released the products yet, but are due to have some in about 3 weeks.

I am wondering however how you can recommend these so highly when you have not tried them. I understand you believe in the individual ingredients, but as they have never yet sold one bottle of the products I am wondering how or why you can recommend it with such confidence. I doubt you have tried it, even a test sample.

What do you know about the company? How they obtain their products? Do you know if they have independant assays done regularly - by outside labs?

I am a big fan of the Pure Encapsulations brand. They only sell to phsycians and they have each batch of every vitamin they make (not a batch once a year - each and every batch of every single vitamin) tested at an outside lab. They actually use 7 differrent outside labs. This is important to me because if it was their own lab run by the owners cousin bubba from Arkansas I would doubt the lab assay results. Several studies have been done and published showing that most vitamin company samples tested do not contain the product or amount of product claimed on the label - easy to do since vitamins are not regulated by the FDA.

Are you personally involved in the production, the formulation...this is not meant as an attack. I am just curious how you can recommend something so highly that is totally untried.
 
Yes I was contacted by PF as a consultant to the line. I essentially recommended using the substances that I found to be effective and have suggested all along. I also said that if they added anything suppressive I wouldn't endorse it. I was sent sample bottles of both and they did the trick -- the same reaction I always got from BAC and it's my understanding that PF gets their raw materials from the same place so all the ingredients and dosages are on the up and up. The thing about these ingredients is; you'll know they're working at increasing free testosterone. (Quality of morning erections being the most obvious non-placebo effect) Avenacosides have an outstanding approval rating and cndium is similar to cialis, so if you don't feel it, there's something wrong! And the anti-e's are already proving themselves effective and the liver detoxifiers may not be "guageable", but they're a great precaution, especially if you've been using orals.

Let me know how they work out for you bro.
 
erections don't always = more testosterone..... when i take femara i know my testoterone is up 10-50% but i can NOT get wood if my life depended on it
 
OXANDRIN said:
erections don't always = more testosterone..... when i take femara i know my testoterone is up 10-50% but i can NOT get wood if my life depended on it

True, if estrogen is supressed too much it effects libido and erectile function.

Amazing mecahanism, the human body, isn't it? The yin and the yang. Gotta have both.
 
Nelson it may seem like a strange question but can any of the ingredients in the above products cause hairloss... call me paranoid but I dont want to take any chances.

thanks
 
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