Nelson Montana- Glutamine

[Golfer18--old]

I have been reading studies for hours about glutamine and its effects. All have been positive and have been said to aid in building a better body.


Amino acids with anabolic properties.

De Bandt JP, Cynober LA.

Laboratoire de Biochimie A, Hopital Necker-Enfants Malades, Faculte de Pharmacie, Universite Paris V, France.

Experimental studies have clearly demonstrated both the indispensability in stress situations of amino acids, previously considered to be non-essential, and the importance of the specific properties of these same amino acids. Glutamine, arginine and their precursors/metabolites, ornithine and alpha-ketoglutarate, exert anabolic or anticatabolic effects through their involvement in protein metabolism, in the immune response and in cell proliferation. Clinical studies suggest that the supplementation of nutritional therapy with these amino acids can be of significant benefit for injured patients.

 

[Nelson Montana]

That's a pretty vauge study. No mention of its application (IV?) and it refers to "injury patients," whatever that means.

There was a recent study by the University of Miami on oral glutamine among athletes. The conclusion: No effect.

 

[Golfer18--old]

That's a pretty vauge study. No mention of its application (IV?) and it refers to "injury patients," whatever that means.

There was a recent study by the University of Miami on oral glutamine among athletes. The conclusion: No effect.

Yeah it was vague but all I have read is positive things. You got the study bro?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Not off hand. But it was conducted in part by someone you may have heard of but I promised to keep his name out of it. He told me about the results. Believe it or not it was funded by MuscleTech. I guess they won't be publishing the results.

 

[Golfer18--old]

Good enough bro. I will try and dig more info up and see if I can find a negative study.

 

[prophet]

i think l-glut is good stuff...but all the studies coming out now are saying its doesn't do anything. i think a lot of it is the placebo effect.

 

[beefybull]

Read my thread on glutamine and Hucks and you'll have all the info you need

 

[liftsiron]

Not off hand. But it was conducted in part by someone you may have heard of but I promised to keep his name out of it. He told me about the results. Believe it or not it was funded by MuscleTech. I guess they won't be publishing the results.


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Talk about vague.

 

[Silent Method]

Glutamine supplementation is widely accepted as having immune function restorative effects, especially in endurance athletes. For this reason alone, it MAY be beneficial for the avid bodybuilder.

As for it's use to support/promote protein synthesis, or even as an anti-catabolic, glutamine looks good on paper but seems to be a poor performer as far as athletic nutritional supplementation is concerned. One confounding issue with glutamine supplementation for athletes seeking to increase muscle mass may be that oral glutamine introduces a good deal of ammonia into the body, serving as a sort of counterbalance to the positive effects glutamine may have otherwise provided.

An athlete looking to attain suspected the positive effects of increased glutamine levels without the confounding aspects of oral glutamine supplementation may turn to OKG, the carbon skeleton of glutamine lacking the ammonia component. OKG acts as an ammonia scavenger in the body and serves to provide an increase in glutamine concentration.



Ahh, where are the studies you say? I can post some regarding glutamine as having immune function restorative effects if you wish. As for studies supporting the other ideas I have expressed, I don't have access to them off hand. Much of what I have written here is paraphrased from the writings of Dr. Colgan of the "Colgan Institute."

 

[liftsiron]

Glutamine supplementation is widely accepted as having immune function restorative effects, especially in endurance athletes. For this reason alone, it MAY be beneficial for the avid bodybuilder.

As for it's use to support/promote protein synthesis, or even as an anti-catabolic, glutamine looks good on paper but seems to be a poor performer as far as athletic nutritional supplementation is concerned. One confounding issue with glutamine supplementation for athletes seeking to increase muscle mass may be that oral glutamine introduces a good deal of ammonia into the body, serving as a sort of counterbalance to the positive effects glutamine may have otherwise provided.

An athlete looking to attain suspected the positive effects of increased glutamine levels without the confounding aspects of oral glutamine supplementation may turn to OKG, the carbon skeleton of glutamine lacking the ammonia component. OKG acts as an ammonia scavenger in the body and serves to provide an increase in glutamine concentration.



Ahh, where are the studies you say? I can post some regarding glutamine as having immune function restorative effects if you wish. As for studies supporting the other ideas I have expressed, I don't have access to them off hand. Much of what I have written here is paraphrased from the writings of Dr. Colgan of the "Colgan Institute."


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After reading your post I did some reasearch into what Dr. Colgan had to say on the subject. He states due to the fact that oral glutimine degrades vary rapidly to ammonia when exposed to moisture even in the stomach, it is far better to use oral OKG because this provides glutimine to the muscles and immune system without increasing ammonia levels.
Good post Silent Method, and thanks