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Needto explains cynostane.Designer supplement You may not know about.

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2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-androst-3-one - 10mg

cynottane ^^^^^

Superdrol

2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol


Whats the difference you ask? Ok first the technical crap ha ha


2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-androst-3-one

Has a methyl group and hydroxyl group off of the 17th carbon. A methyl group has single bonds from a carbon to 3 hydrogens leaving the 4th bond open to bond to whatever, in this case the 17th carbon.. A hydroxyl group has a oxygen single bond to a hydrogen and another single bond to whatever, which in this case is the 17th carbon. Has a 2 and 3, both connect to the 17th carbon where the R is on the pictures on the links.

2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-acetoxy-5a-androst-2-ene

Has the same methyl group at the 17th position but also has a acetoxy group. A acetoxy group has an oxygen single bond to a carbon, off of this carbon is a double bond to an oxygen and also has a methyl group off of this carbon. The oxygen with the single bond to carbon is left with one bond free, it is here that bonds to the 17th carbon. Has a 1 and 2, both connect to the 17th carbon where the R is on the pictures in the links

Acetoxy group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Methyl group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hydroxyl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Cynostane is a brand new prohormone which features an alteration of the superdrol compound, with a cyano bond instead of the 2a methyl superdrol bond.
Effects – Cynostane, developed by Anabolic Innovations, is an extremely anabolic compound with remarkably low androgenic action, making it qualitatively similar to the likes of Oxandrolone or Methenolone (Primobolan). It is non-aromatizing meaning it will not produce estrogen mediated side effects and its high degree of anabolic action makes it a favourable choice for athletes concerned with losing bodyfat while maintaining, or increasing, muscle mass.
Side Effects - Bloodwork conducted by users shows that Cynostane has a more favourable effect on blood lipids, and liver values than superdrol itself. Although feedback to date is limited, the combination of low androgenic action, lack of aromatization to estrogen, and low level of general health effects, makes cynostane an intriguing newcomer to the prohormone world.

OK So here is my thoughts on it. Its not going to be as powerful as superdrol in the strength department but it will be great for size and some damn good strength to. At the same time it is also not nearly as liver or lipid toxic ether.

This compound definiley appears to have oral activity, and very potent activity at that. It has the highest Q ratio, 20. That is the same Q ratio as superdrol, except this compound appears to be twice as anabolic as superdrol. I would expect dry gains, more similar to oxandrolone (Anavar)

AI has always made some pretty good products and don't seem to be a bunch of scum bags from what I have seen out of them.


OK now for the down side lol
This Hormone is also on the fda's chopping block ( of course right lol ).

But for now Our good friends Orbit nutrition (new sponsor) are more then happy to offer this product to the elitefitness.com members.

Anabolic Innovations Cynostane - $39.95 : Orbit Nutrition


Pretty damn cheap to and you can add another discount (NEEDEF) TO THAT PRICE. Might as well buy up the last of this too because AI had stopped production of it and whats left floating around out there is all that is left of it.

Enjoy guys. Love needto:heart::heart::D:D
 
got me all excited and then I read the FDA part!! crap! sounds like a great product!
 
got me all excited and then I read the FDA part!! crap! sounds like a great product!

Ya Kind of sucks. Orbits only got like 10-20 bottles left of it too but I saw it in his store and figured at least a few people on ef would get to use it before its gone.

SO maybe down the road we can be like "hey you remember that cynostane" "Ya a remember it" Ya I used it shit was pretty good man" "AAAAH ya fuck I never got to try it shit got banned before I had a chance" "HA HA fucker I did"

Anyway for what its worth it looks pretty good to me and I know he has some left I just asked him an hour ago.
 
this is some good shit guys dont miss out since big brother has decided what we can and cant take.
 
Good stuff guys. Shame this one's going away too. Get it while ya can!
 
Just received my first bottle (3 days after placing order!). Gonna pop the top on this shit and give it a whirl!! Gonna reo 5 caps (50mgs ed). Will hit ya up w/ feedback!!
 
well since AI also originally known as anabolic innovations stopped making this product less than 2 weeks after launch then your company that you named AI so the label didnt have to change bought it. BB.com was raided after you bought this product and it was longer than a week later since bb.com was raided the day before the olympia and i could prob find the email from you guys about raising my price on it after you purchased the label and forumla. Most people dont know about the new company AI being different than anabolic innovations and not many people are sure what is on the FDA chopping block and not.
 
Dont worry guys I killed that worthless spammer for what ever the hell company that was he was working for. Anyway anyone got any experience with this compound. I admit I have never used it. It looks awesome on paper and in theory. I would like to know what the product is all about when the rubber meets the road though.
 
Great post bro.
What are the recommended daily dosages?

Looks like I may give it a go
 
It is in the works. You will be able to buy it at rlsupplements.com in about a week or two that along with another product. Rlsuppslements.com is my new company which
me,orbit, and russainstar will all run and own together
 
NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAN, SEEING THAT BRINGS A SMILE TO MY FACE. HOW EXCITING!

NOW, this is breaking news to get excited about, not some company releasing esterfied dhegay. rival superdrol my ass.
 
NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAN, SEEING THAT BRINGS A SMILE TO MY FACE. HOW EXCITING!

NOW, this is breaking news to get excited about, not some company releasing esterfied dhegay. rival superdrol my ass.

LMAO @ DHEGAY bwahahahahaa. Get it right though man its not just DHEGAY... Its SUPER DHEGAY :biggrin:
 
2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-2-ene

is real cyano. The other stuff is worthless. The original "cynostane" was the wrong compound

Also, 10mg is probably way too much for this stuff if it is real. Something like 2.5mg capsules is as high as I would go. 10mg per day for the aggressive guys. 2.5-5mg/day for the average guy. Again..IF this is real cyano. I have seen a lot of 2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-2-ene be labeled as such and test out to be the 3-one compound. Sneaky chinese chemists
 
I also see no point in stacking REAL cyano with any other compounds. No one has used it or gotten a feeling for it. I would buy that product listen above. Adding other things would ruin the product. Then the person who released JUST cyano would get all the sales

A perfect product would be 2.5mg-5mg capsules JUST cyano, 90 caps per bottle

But what do i know
 
I haven't really seen many positive logs from cyno..

That is because you have not seen anyone put out the "real" Cyno my man...

Look at all the other cyno products out there. This is what they look like

2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-androst-3-one

and our version looks like this
2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-2ene

Then of course I always like to make everything as strong as I can so I added
some things to come up with the finale product which now looks like this
10mg 2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-2ene

20mg 6,7 dyhydroxybergamottin (dhb)

5mg Bioperine
 
That is because you have not seen anyone put out the "real" Cyno my man...

Look at all the other cyno products out there. This is what they look like

2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-androst-3-one

and our version looks like this
2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-2ene

Then of course I always like to make everything as strong as I can so I added
some things to come up with the finale product which now looks like this
10mg 2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-2ene

20mg 6,7 dyhydroxybergamottin (dhb)

5mg Bioperine

Do you mean dihydroxybergamottin? Naringin isomer?

That would make for a solid supplement but I still would like to see less than 10mg per capsule. It is twice as anabolic as superdrol and a 5mg capsule would allow for better dosing.
 
this compound is more better associated with pheraplex, than superdrol. I'm not sure how you came about the 2-5mg dosing of this compound, only research i've seen on it is from vida, and that was done in rats.

I dont think it's ever been tested in humans. the vida info does suggest this to be the most powerful out of the 3 talked about, so it should be exciting to see. pheraplex is best ran at 30-40mg.
remember that madol has an anabolic rating of 1200 and an androgenic of 187 with methyltestosterone as the standard for measurment.

superdrol on the other hand has an anabolic rating of 400 and androgenic rating of 20 with methyltest being the standard as well.

mg for mg, I believe superdrol to be more powerful than pheraplex when comparing human results, and logs.

if this is stronger, it may be needed to be run at slightly less 10-20mg, but there really isn't any way of knowing, unless you know some human studies I havn't seen?
 
this compound is more better associated with pheraplex, than superdrol. I'm not sure how you came about the 2-5mg dosing of this compound, only research i've seen on it is from vida, and that was done in rats.

I dont think it's ever been tested in humans. the vida info does suggest this to be the most powerful out of the 3 talked about, so it should be exciting to see. pheraplex is best ran at 30-40mg.
remember that madol has an anabolic rating of 1200 and an androgenic of 187 with methyltestosterone as the standard for measurment.

superdrol on the other hand has an anabolic rating of 400 and androgenic rating of 20 with methyltest being the standard as well.

mg for mg, I believe superdrol to be more powerful than pheraplex when comparing human results, and logs.

if this is stronger, it may be needed to be run at slightly less 10-20mg, but there really isn't any way of knowing, unless you know some human studies I havn't seen?

I've used the 2-ene myself before.

The important thing to focus on is the Q ratio. Superdrol has the best Q-ratio out of all orals in Vida, except, low and behold, 2-ene cyano, beats it.

Back when PH's were still popular to be manufactured I tested the 2-ene for a company that never ended up bring it to the market because they got out of the PH game.

5mg felt like 10mg superdrol as far as strength increases went. I did not feel the need to take more than 10-15mg

I figured my personal experience would help NTBM decide on their capsule count. I wasnt suggest less total amount per bottle, I was just suggesting a smaller mg per capsule for better dosing

Im sure once they receive a sample though they will test it out and see what Im talking about

The effects were similar to superdrol, which makes sense based on the chemical structure. Less aggression than superdrol.

I liked it better than superdrol, and that is saying A LOT considering superdrol is the king on the OTC market. I liked the 2-ene cyano better than any oral anything I have ever tried, actually.

I did 3 weeks, 5/10/15. Effects were felt even at 5mg!
 
did cynostane ACTUALLY gte banned? This is schwellington btw


anyhow i have seen this stuff still floating around- i wasnt aware the fda had their sight on it.....:(
 
did cynostane ACTUALLY gte banned? This is schwellington btw


anyhow i have seen this stuff still floating around- i wasnt aware the fda had their sight on it.....:(

no, only 3 compunds recently got banned since 05.

ai claims they no longer make it, but you can purchase it through a link to a uk store which is on their website. and it's in stock. so.....
 
did cynostane ACTUALLY gte banned? This is schwellington btw


anyhow i have seen this stuff still floating around- i wasnt aware the fda had their sight on it.....:(
no if it was banned then we wouldnt be making it. At the time this was wrote up it was rumored to be so that is why it was put in there.
 
did cynostane ACTUALLY gte banned? This is schwellington btw


anyhow i have seen this stuff still floating around- i wasnt aware the fda had their sight on it.....:(

The AI version was discontinued because no one got any results from it. My guess is they meant to use the 2-ene compound and messed up.

I would love to see the 2-ene hit the market. You guys would all enjoy it. Its like a clean superdrol
 
orbit, you stated we have the nomenclature str8 from vida. and it is correct. so are you confirming to me that it is in fact the more potent 2-ene compound?
 
I can confirm ther A.I version was actualy a 2beta-cyano structure... hence its crapness.. i am not allowed to go into detail because nate will kick me where it hurts.. but the version coming out is the 2-alpha and its the 2-ene wich is the very strongest, and most potent... like jb said its the best version.
 
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