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  • Thread starter Thread starter jeremys
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thing is, i've had acne before, and pretty bad too. then this last 1/2 year it started to go away and 2 days ago my skin was damn near clear. now this shit...oh well, as long as it's higher test and lower est, then its fine..
 
Jeremy, plaese don't follow Mr. X's advice regarding washing your face 3 to 4 times daily if you have acne. He knows his shit when it comes to dieting, but with that post it is clear that skin disorders are not his forte. If it was as easy as washing your face 3 to 4 times daily noone would have acne, but what that will do is irritate and aggravate your skin and make it worse. And no, the oil you scrub away will only dry your face out, which will cause the dead skin cells to clog oyur pores. But you might say to this, "but if you wash your face you won't have any oil. Nonsense. you're only washing away the surface oil. The oil in the sebaceous gland will actually build up and produce more than usual to try to compensate for the lack of oil on your face, and then the daed skin cells that have flaked off from your now dry face will clog and block the pores makeing for a breeding ground for breakouts.

But, Mr. X is probably correct in his assumption tht it is probably the increased T- levels that are causing this, or perhaps you have difficulty digesting saturated fats(?)

I apologize for the many spelling errors and the harshness of this post, but it is late and I have to be heading to bed, and I know how it feels to be broken out and I hate for him to go through it, so I was just giving a quick rundown, no malice intended. good lfiting everbody.
 
Jeremy, plaese don't follow Mr. X's advice regarding washing your face 3 to 4 times daily if you have acne. He knows his shit when it comes to dieting, but with that post it is clear that skin disorders are not his forte. If it was as easy as washing your face 3 to 4 times daily noone would have acne, but what that will do is irritate and aggravate your skin and make it worse. And no, the oil you scrub away will only dry your face out, which will cause the dead skin cells to clog oyur pores. But you might say to this, "but if you wash your face you won't have any oil. Nonsense. you're only washing away the surface oil. The oil in the sebaceous gland will actually build up and produce more than usual to try to compensate for the lack of oil on your face, and then the daed skin cells that have flaked off from your now dry face will clog and block the pores makeing for a breeding ground for breakouts.
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OK, YOU THINK WASHING YOUR FACE WILL NOT STOP BREAK OUT AND ACNE, THINK AGAIN. IT HAS HELPED ME AND OTHERS MANY TIMES. I SUGGEST YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE RUNNING YOUR MOUTH OFF, PLUS RE-READ MY POST IT SAYS WASH YOUR FACE W/ SOAP NOT SCRUB LIKE CRAZY:

*********TAKEN FROM MEDLINE***********
Soap and water...cleansing of the skin with soap and water, no more than two or three times a day, removes excess oils (sebum) and may alleviate the "oily skin" appearance often associated with acne.
===>That's what I recommeneded...again, my logic is there.

*********MEDLINE PREVENTION PART 2***********
Prevention
The tendency to develop acne is inherited. Although acne cannot be prevented, careful cleanliness...can help to lessen the effects.

TAKE A LOOK:
G Ital Dermatol Minerva Dermatol 1971 Mar;46(3):113-5 Related Articles, Links
[Critical observations on the treatment of acne. (10 years of experience)]

Anghelescu M.

PMID: 4254696 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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yon Med 1972 May 14;227(9):861-3 Related Articles, Links

[Detergent antiseptic soap in dermatology, particulary in leg ulcers]

Thivolet J, Perrot H.

PMID: 4263089 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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I don't like starting futile arguments, but you need to read thoroughly before you make statements trying to disprove what I say. Washing your face will NOT prevent acne, it will help tone done the severity and, at times, clear up the acne spots. This will by my last post about acne on this thread, for arguments like this become childish and futile. As a side note, I think scrubbing your face like crazy 5 times a day will make the symptoms more severe, but washing few times a day w/ soap is a very good idea.

Mr.X
 
well, it depends on what kind of soap you use, the chemicals that hold standard soap bars into a solidified form are horrible for your skin and comedeogenic. And calm down buddy, you offersome great dieting advice on this board, but please don't think that that entitles you to be vindictive in your replies to a guy simply trying to help a kid out who's going through a hard time. And I was not referring to scrubbing either, simply washing your face that many times daily will simply stimulate the production of more oil in the sebaceous gland. I would recommend some beta hydroxy acid topical to help exfoliation, and even some gentle benzol perozide to help kill the P. acnes(basic treatment here). You mgiht also want to look at yor diet and notice any new foods that you have introduced that could cause an allergic reaction. Personally, my body cannot tolerate wheat or any bread, and when I do eat these foods I develop cystic acne. If his acne is cystic, well, I would highly recommend going to see a dermatologist. And trust me Mr. X, I've done my research, and my sources are a little more varied than medline that gives the simple advice to wash your face(not to be a smartass or anything:D). BTW, the tone of your post that made me reply earlier was blase`. It sounded like you jsut though that washing your face 4 times a day would rid jeremy's acne, that's why I responded. Obviosuly this isn' the case, as per your research, which says two times daily, which is what I would recommend. Anyways, happy lifting and good luck on your diet.
 
wguitarg said:
well, it depends on what kind of soap you use, the chemicals that hold standard soap bars into a solidified form are horrible for your skin and comedeogenic. And calm down buddy, you offersome great dieting advice on this board, but please don't think that that entitles you to be vindictive in your replies to a guy simply trying to help a kid out who's going through a hard time. And I was not referring to scrubbing either, simply washing your face that many times daily will simply stimulate the production of more oil in the sebaceous gland. I would recommend some beta hydroxy acid topical to help exfoliation, and even some gentle benzol perozide to help kill the P. acnes(basic treatment here). You mgiht also want to look at yor diet and notice any new foods that you have introduced that could cause an allergic reaction. Personally, my body cannot tolerate wheat or any bread, and when I do eat these foods I develop cystic acne. If his acne is cystic, well, I would highly recommend going to see a dermatologist. And trust me Mr. X, I've done my research, and my sources are a little more varied than medline that gives the simple advice to wash your face(not to be a smartass or anything:D). BTW, the tone of your post that made me reply earlier was blase`. It sounded like you jsut though that washing your face 4 times a day would rid jeremy's acne, that's why I responded. Obviosuly this isn' the case, as per your research, which says two times daily, which is what I would recommend. Anyways, happy lifting and good luck on your diet.

Yes, I also thought that the "tone" of your post was condescending; thus, I took it personal. Anyhow, email me some research about skin care, I'd love to see some studies.

On a side note, I did some research and I think his age is one of the biggest factors here, that includes his past acne experience.

P.S. if you think medline is a bad source (PUBMED) then why not start your own "medical" webiste and prove them wrong

Mr.X
 
woke up with a nice case of diarrhea at 3.30 in the morning, and when i woke up again i had killer chest pains and what felt like heartburn. didnt do anything differently yesterday.

i just realized i have diarrhea pretty often
 
jeremys said:
woke up with a nice case of diarrhea at 3.30 in the morning, and when i woke up again i had killer chest pains and what felt like heartburn. didnt do anything differently yesterday.

i just realized i have diarrhea pretty often

Eat some HARD boiled eggs.

Mr.X
 
haha wow! great idea. i can carry them around with me too. i cant believe i never thought of that
 
is ALA absolutely neccessary? i have 6 dollars to last me for a few weeks at least and i think 2 bucks are going towards canola oil tomorrow. im all out
 
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